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August 19, 2016, 03:30:38 PM |
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Me and my team are on a project that will be completed next week by the Grace of God THE BUSINESS OWED BY THE PEOPLEPicture of the mining farm will be provided and you can shedue a private visit to the mining farm location to see for yourself The project include-- This is not a pozy scheme or a high yield investment program ROI will be divided through percentage ALL INVESTORS WILL BE GIVEN ACCESS TO WHAT THE INVESTED ON (FOR SECURITY RESIONS) (1) An openly owned large bitcoin mining farm (where users who invested on the project are are the owners of the bitcoin mining farm not a company) (ROI will be shared daily or weekly to all the users that invested there money) (many people are having difficulty time mining bitcoin or gaining good profit from bitcoin but this is an opportunity no more worries about electricity cost (2) Money invested can also be used to Develop of many online business and affiliate website which the monthly gain from different advertisement, affiliate sell, google ad-sense on the site or purchased product will be shared to the investors (investors will have access to the site monthly earning document ) (3) Money invested can also be used to developed many local biz like beer polar, supermarket,online stores that will also accept bitcoin ass a form of payment (4) Money invested by users can be used to offer different local and online loans to trusted persons for online trading,gambling, stocking of goods in the shop etc no worries about government and your privacy is fully secured So my question is how do you see this project will it help the bitcoin community or should i stop wasting my money and time?You can still vote above this post and please what type of Guarantee of ROII do you think we should implement to prove trust of this business? BASED ON SOME SUBJECTION FROM THIS FORUM I INCLUDE THIS
All investors are allowed to withdraw how much they've invested anytimeAnd what about this? because you're not having certainty for your project and that makes me feeling doubt with your project, I don't say you're a scammer but looking for your system it looks like familiarly for me. but from all of your explanation in here not can make me feel interested in your project and appearing to assume in my minds, Whether just a camouflage? I will advice you to read the edited post again to get full understanding Thank you
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bitsoldiers
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August 19, 2016, 03:37:56 PM |
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Or this could also turn into one of the biggest opensource scam in the world.
I assume you're aware of the massive scaming here in bitcointalk through the ICOs, while this isn't one of the ICO it is still an investment project which people get to send BTC without guarantee of ROI.
Some ico's are good and investable but the majority of them are not and they are spoiling it for the good ones. If you open your eyes and seriously do deep serious research you can find at least one amazing ico right now. But its so hard to find it because there are 100 other ico happening at the same time. Most of them are really. Even the mist successful ICO such as ETH somehow had turned out to be scam in the end. Well almost a scam. Waves investors sees the project to be scam in the end. Nothing is real here, even when these ICO guys display their names and faces on their ANN threads the possibility of them turning into a scam is there. In thier minds, people can't send police officers to knock on their doors anyway. Since you asked me what sort of system that will prove so we entrust btc to your project, i will just state one and the rest may add to it.
Allow investors to withdraw how much they've invested anytime.
THANKS FOR THAT IT IS NOW INCLUDED IN THE BUSINESS Will see later. I wil invest once the projects starts and sees someone got thier money back. same here too..will want to invest too..once it kick start.. hope money back is guaranteed...
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Jambolb2
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August 19, 2016, 03:38:52 PM |
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I dont know anything about mining or how it works nor i'm saying you are planning to scam anyone but still... i dont think people would like to invest in a cloud mining program after what happened in the past with the reputation of cloud mining sites just HashOcean or many more that scammed a lot of people and ran away with their money.. And if people would like to invest with you, then best of luck with your project
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BTC Loading (OP)
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August 19, 2016, 03:45:22 PM |
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I dont know anything about mining or how it works nor i'm saying you are planning to scam anyone but still... i dont think people would like to invest in a cloud mining program after what happened in the past with the reputation of cloud mining sites just HashOcean or many more that scammed a lot of people and ran away with their money.. And if people would like to invest with you, then best of luck with your project hello i will like you to understand this clear this is not cloud mining program please read
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August 21, 2016, 04:43:58 AM |
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Or this could also turn into one of the biggest opensource scam in the world.
I assume you're aware of the massive scaming here in bitcointalk through the ICOs, while this isn't one of the ICO it is still an investment project which people get to send BTC without guarantee of ROI.
Some ico's are good and investable but the majority of them are not and they are spoiling it for the good ones. If you open your eyes and seriously do deep serious research you can find at least one amazing ico right now. But its so hard to find it because there are 100 other ico happening at the same time. Most of them are really. Even the mist successful ICO such as ETH somehow had turned out to be scam in the end. Well almost a scam. Waves investors sees the project to be scam in the end. Nothing is real here, even when these ICO guys display their names and faces on their ANN threads the possibility of them turning into a scam is there. In thier minds, people can't send police officers to knock on their doors anyway. Since you asked me what sort of system that will prove so we entrust btc to your project, i will just state one and the rest may add to it.
Allow investors to withdraw how much they've invested anytime.
THANKS FOR THAT IT IS NOW INCLUDED IN THE BUSINESS Will see later. I wil invest once the projects starts and sees someone got thier money back. People who call it a scam just because its price is lower today then the day it had its ico are not true investors, they are gamblers. Any investor knows there will be ups and downs. Thats why if you buy into a ico you should keep a few btc a side and put it in the buy side of the coin when it launches on the exchanges because you never know if someone will dump to you.
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August 21, 2016, 07:39:23 AM |
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Just waiting until the project officially launches and seeing how the project is running, better let's shut up and let's see what the op's saying.
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August 21, 2016, 10:41:09 AM |
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" ass a form of payment " Is that a new form of payment, like AsMoney? Well, it will be tricky to convince people that this is legit. There have been so many scam cloud mining services on here... even if you saying it is not cloud mining. If people do not do the mining themselves, it is a form of cloud mining. I hope you going to spread awareness about this project via a new signature campaign on the board.. we need some competition. Good luck with the project.
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August 21, 2016, 10:46:07 AM |
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(ROI will be shared daily or weekly to all the users that invested money into the project) This is interesting if you pay daily.It will build up trust among people to invest in your project.What is the minimum amount to invest?
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chixka000
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August 21, 2016, 10:51:19 AM |
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Why would certain miners shares their mining to others, what is the real purpose. I always doubt this kind of service. If miners don't have capital then i might consider it
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August 21, 2016, 10:58:20 AM |
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scam after reading the OPs post history. he still lives with parents and worries about electric. he does not even have 2btc (ill explain later) to his name. so even before anything he does not have any/enough hash power to start a new pool that will get some blocks (minimum 0.7% of network hashpower for a chance of 1 block a day) Buy or develop your own time machine and go back to 2008 and mine BTC on the computer at your mothers house in the basement
I prefer to Work hardIF I WAS ABLE TO mine BTC on the computer at my mothers house in the basement i would have taking the beating of my life because it makes a hell of nose and it increase the electricity billeven just 3 weeks ago he was penny pinching the faucet sites Please everyone, which site is the best Faucet site?
which shows he hold no real capital/assets. otherwise he would not need to spend hours to get 50cent a day of bitcoinby raiding faucets. general rule: people with a real life job to buy bitcoin or already holding bitcoin dont raid faucets. he has no money management skills at most he wants to take a loan out for 3Btc and pay that person back 4btc in 2 months.. he has no clue of return of investment timescales. and no clue of how much it will cost. i feel he wants to rob from the community to repay a 3BTC loan which he wasted on gambling. proof of loan and not understanding ROI from mining A friend of my want to give me 3BTC and he want me to pay him back 4BTC in 2month 7days but he asked me what will i do with it, how can i turn 3 bitcoin to 4 in 2 month 7days, what is the best investment that can give me good ROI in that short period
So please i ask for your advice
proof he doesnt know mining pools or set up costs I am thinking different investment to do with bitcoin than gambling and i want to ask what will it take me to start a bitcoin mining pool
Site Development Cost? Developers fee?
Please what are needed and what is the total money needed to start the development of the pool + maintenance?
how will i make my money back?
Is the to much to worry about?
proof he lost funds gambling and is trying to penny pinch, steal funds from community I registered on a site that plays dice ...... i played with all my money in just 10 second of playing that game my money vanished i fell from the chair i was siting to the ground i was not even able to see well for some time because of the shock
.... how much was the amount that you fell from the chair to the ground ?.... 2 BTCin short the OP is now pennyless and is trying to scheme money out of others. he does not even hold 2.7btc needed to buy a single antminer S9 think about it. if peoples funds are locked in escrow, how will he be able to buy the miner needed... do not fool(pun: fall, fool) for the OP's scheme.. its definetly a scam
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August 21, 2016, 11:11:25 AM |
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scam
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do not fool for the OP's scheme.. its definetly a scam
I wouldn't listen to this character either, it's (Franky) an active confidence trickster account, who heavily pushes cleverly contrived propaganda in support of the Fiat Banking Dev team coups led by Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn. Poisonous character, intent on ruining Bitcoin by building up your trust, then trying to encourage Bitcoin users to support foolish takeovers. Avoid.
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August 21, 2016, 11:16:12 AM Last edit: August 21, 2016, 11:30:40 AM by franky1 |
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I wouldn't listen to this character either, it's (Franky) an active confidence trickster account, who heavily pushes cleverly contrived propaganda in support of the Fiat Banking Dev team coups led by Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn.
Poisonous character, intent on ruining Bitcoin by building up your trust, then trying to encourage Bitcoin users to support foolish takeovers. Avoid.
(though off topic) did you spend your vacation thinking up how to throw another bitcoin dev (lukeJR) off the bitcoin bus, making him part of your REKT campaign to centralize bitcoin by making bitcoin owned by only one group of devs? throwing anyone off that dev group if they dont follow the blockstream plan? i see you disapeared for a while and avoided answering the question about your future tactics concerning lukeJR.. so i think its actually you that is causing propoganda to mess with bitcoin. so man up and answer.. will you realise that there is no controversy if a bitcoin-core dev has a version of bitcoin that allows real capacity increase. thus putting all implementations on an equal footing with no central control or push lukejr off the bitcoin bus with a rekt campaign to try keeping the controversy alive so that only one group owns bitcoin voting power of features? ill make it easy yet again 1. suport luke Jr's decision because he is a bitcoin-dev 2. rekt luke Jr because its not a blockstream plan just answer the question 1or 2.. or dont reply go play with your monero
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john2231
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August 21, 2016, 11:37:06 AM |
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scam
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do not fool for the OP's scheme.. its definetly a scam
I wouldn't listen to this character either, it's (Franky) an active confidence trickster account, who heavily pushes cleverly contrived propaganda in support of the Fiat Banking Dev team coups led by Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn. Poisonous character, intent on ruining Bitcoin by building up your trust, then trying to encourage Bitcoin users to support foolish takeovers. Avoid. Same here i do not trust this project i can believe that they have a mining farm. there is no any proof that they are mining. or even a video to show with us if they are running a farm.. So for me its scam attempt.. beware.
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August 21, 2016, 11:39:45 AM |
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Just waiting until the project officially launches and seeing how the project is running, better let's shut up and let's see what the op's saying. Yes, its becoming our habit of claiming every thing to be a scam by its first look. I think unless you are a victim of scam, you should not shout of Scam. This is a good project and i am looking forward towards it.
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chixka000
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August 21, 2016, 11:51:07 AM |
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Just waiting until the project officially launches and seeing how the project is running, better let's shut up and let's see what the op's saying. Yes, its becoming our habit of claiming every thing to be a scam by its first look. I think unless you are a victim of scam, you should not shout of Scam. This is a good project and i am looking forward towards it. Well in the first place op really asked our opinion for the betterness i think? But yeah people do always wanted to have proof before they will believe because of past experience of course
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franky1
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August 21, 2016, 11:59:44 AM |
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Just waiting until the project officially launches and seeing how the project is running, better let's shut up and let's see what the op's saying. Yes, its becoming our habit of claiming every thing to be a scam by its first look. I think unless you are a victim of scam, you should not shout of Scam. This is a good project and i am looking forward towards it. your opinion is wait to be scammed then call it a scam?? um no.. better to do due diligence. check out the person asking for funds. find out if they can personally afford the costs while your funds sit in escrow. look for signs they know what they are talking about, and find out as much as you can before doing anything else. never just throw funds at someone blindly to then, when scammed cry that you been scammed
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August 21, 2016, 12:06:51 PM |
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Well in the first place op really asked our opinion for the betterness i think?
it was more then just an opinion. he already 'negotiated' a deal with a escrower.. but surprisingly stayed quiet about his own expertise, experience, skills and ofcourse capital. so i just made the basic info people should know about a person more apparent by linking in the OP's quotes But yeah people do always wanted to have proof before they will believe because of past experience of course
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chixka000
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August 21, 2016, 12:26:00 PM |
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Well in the first place op really asked our opinion for the betterness i think?
it was more then just an opinion. he already 'negotiated' a deal with a escrower.. but surprisingly stayed quiet about his own expertise, experience, skills and ofcourse capital. so i just made the basic info people should know about a person more apparent by linking in the OP's quotes But yeah people do always wanted to have proof before they will believe because of past experience of course
agreed Op might really has a good intentions. Then i think i should have to wait for it and prove it my self. I hope that he can manage to be what he really wanted to do and this project would work
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BTC Loading (OP)
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August 21, 2016, 04:27:07 PM |
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scam after reading the OPs post history. he still lives with parents and worries about electric. he does not even have 2btc (ill explain later) to his name. so even before anything he does not have any/enough hash power to start a new pool that will get some blocks (minimum 0.7% of network hashpower for a chance of 1 block a day) Buy or develop your own time machine and go back to 2008 and mine BTC on the computer at your mothers house in the basement
I prefer to Work hardIF I WAS ABLE TO mine BTC on the computer at my mothers house in the basement i would have taking the beating of my life because it makes a hell of nose and it increase the electricity billeven just 3 weeks ago he was penny pinching the faucet sites Please everyone, which site is the best Faucet site?
which shows he hold no real capital/assets. otherwise he would not need to spend hours to get 50cent a day of bitcoinby raiding faucets. general rule: people with a real life job to buy bitcoin or already holding bitcoin dont raid faucets. he has no money management skills at most he wants to take a loan out for 3Btc and pay that person back 4btc in 2 months.. he has no clue of return of investment timescales. and no clue of how much it will cost. i feel he wants to rob from the community to repay a 3BTC loan which he wasted on gambling. proof of loan and not understanding ROI from mining A friend of my want to give me 3BTC and he want me to pay him back 4BTC in 2month 7days but he asked me what will i do with it, how can i turn 3 bitcoin to 4 in 2 month 7days, what is the best investment that can give me good ROI in that short period
So please i ask for your advice
proof he doesnt know mining pools or set up costs I am thinking different investment to do with bitcoin than gambling and i want to ask what will it take me to start a bitcoin mining pool
Site Development Cost? Developers fee?
Please what are needed and what is the total money needed to start the development of the pool + maintenance?
how will i make my money back?
Is the to much to worry about?
proof he lost funds gambling and is trying to penny pinch, steal funds from community I registered on a site that plays dice ...... i played with all my money in just 10 second of playing that game my money vanished i fell from the chair i was siting to the ground i was not even able to see well for some time because of the shock
.... how much was the amount that you fell from the chair to the ground ?.... 2 BTCin short the OP is now pennyless and is trying to scheme money out of others. he does not even hold 2.7btc needed to buy a single antminer S9 think about it. if peoples funds are locked in escrow, how will he be able to buy the miner needed... do not fool(pun: fall, fool) for the OP's scheme.. its definetly a scam Please dear i will advice you not to judge people like that because maybe you have lost money before to people does not mean that everybody is desame and stop calling them scam why not wait and see for yourself maybe by that time we will know who loses
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August 21, 2016, 04:43:52 PM Last edit: August 21, 2016, 05:05:46 PM by franky1 |
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your idea is not new. its called cloud mining. you can wrap it up with colourful paper and tie it into a bow.. but essentially its just cloudmining..
if you want a honest opinion to know if you pursuing it is going to be beneficial then expect people to want to know who you are to know if you are the right person to do it. and to know if its a real business or just another rip off grab money quick scheme.
due dilegence = something everyone should be doing throwing money blindly = something no one should do. although you as a gambler still need to learn that lesson
what would be better is instead of telling people to shut up and pay up. with a "just wait to see what happens" shady reply a better idea would be to explain how your zero income can actually buy mining rigs while users funds are held in escrow. a better idea would be to explain how your zero income can actually repay the loan you mentioned within 2 months a better idea would be to explain how your zero knowledge of mining makes you worthy of managing a mining pool a better idea would be to explain how your zero control of your electricity costs is any better then anyone else running their own miner a better idea would be to explain how your zero storage/property makes you worthy of 'housing' peoples rigs instead of getting them delivered to their own location. a better idea would be to explain why you spent more time to set up an escrow aggreement then you did to learn about bitcoin. seems obvious what your more interested in getting out of the community
so instead of asking people to shut up and wait. atleast provide answers that can satisfy peoples questions, because without even offering valid answers to quash basic due diligence then there is no point even trying to start a business, this topic is afterall more then just a query.. its obviously an initial advertisment because you already set up the escrow agreement before anything
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