Duterte's War on Drugs - 2000 Killed & 600,000 Surrendered & counting

[groll]

this is a great thing that is happening out there and the only way to deal with these animals, very impressed also with how how duterte told the kenyan to go fuck himself, i know some filipinos from my old job and they all love him

That is what Mr. Putin of Russia said that those drug addicts, drug dealers are animals.  Human rights are for humans not for animals.  Yeah almost all of the Filipinos love Duterte as he shows strength.  He cannot become a puppet for oligarchs and other who were high in rank.  And I just read that Indonesia were looking up to the way Duterte manage drugs on the Philipines.  Indonesia have killed 3000 criminals or people related to drugs.  That is according to Rappler Indonesia.

If that is true that Indonesia do the same thing on what the Philippines did to drugs, then maybe Duterte for the other country is a good president.  He became a role model.  I actually read everything about all his doings and how people from different country admires his way of handling his country. Filipinos, (including me) should be proud of having this kind of leader.  Change has come indeed.

[same21]

Illegal Drugs are the biggest problem in the Philippines. Violence and crime in the Philippines starts from using illegal Drugs, of course, if you are in your normal state you will not kill someone brutally just to be able to do your bad purpose on them. Because of this, Duterte Administration is trying to solve it first to lessen the crime and corruption and to make the Philippines be a safer country to invest and visits. Indeed change has come but you need to kill some.

[topiOleg]

So is Philippines basically the Mexico of the East?

[slaz26]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

[Kemarit]

It's been 53 days since Rodrigo Duterte took oath as Philippine President. So far there were 1800 killed and 600,000 surrendered on drug related cases. He promise to kill at least 100,000 during his term. What do you think about it?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/26/nearly-2000-have-died-in-dutertes-war-on-drugs-in-the-philippines-one-is-a-5-year-old-girl/
http://time.com/4462352/rodrigo-duterte-drug-war-drugs-philippines-killing/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-un-killings-idUSKCN10X0IS


On June 1, 2016 Duterte Offers 3 Million php Bounty to Druglords and dealers
http://www.rappler.com/nation/134924-duterte-bounty-drug-lords

Thousands surrenders
http://www.elitereaders.com/thousands-drug-dealers-addicts-peddlers-surrender-scared-badass-philippine-president-rodrigo-duterte/


65,000 drug pushers surrenders
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/573837/news/nation/pnp-chief-65-000-drug-pushers-users-have-surrendered-since-crackdown

Drug lords killed:

Dragon
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/28/16/alleged-drug-lord-dragon-wife-gunned-down-in-caticlan


Big time Chinese Drug lord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/798118/big-time-chinese-drug-lord-shot-dead-by-police-in-valenzuela-city


Jaguar
http://www.tahonews.com/cebu-top-drug-lord-jaguar-killed-in-las-pinas-raid-mayor-tommy-osmena-reveals/


Bohol Druglords
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/794834/suspected-drug-lord-shot-dead-in-tagbilaran-city
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/568900/news/regions/cops-kill-another-suspected-drug-lord-4-others-in-bohol


Leyte Druglord
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/805414/alleged-drug-lord-in-leyte-prison-shot-dead-during-raid

Druglords that surrenders

http://www.filipinewsph.com/2016/08/quezon-biggest-drug-lord-surrenders.html
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/804164/top-cebu-drug-lord-surrenders-to-bato
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/791759/bohol-drug-lord-surrenders-amid-daily-killing-of-traffickers
http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/07/16/PDEA-Suspected-drug-lord-Peter-Lim-surrenders-to-Duterte.html
http://www.mb.com.ph/quezons-biggest-drug-lord-athel-alcala-surrenders/


Druglords arrested
http://www.philstar.com/region/2015/03/06/1430654/cidg-8-arrests-one-leytes-big-time-drug-lords-12-others
http://www.rappler.com/nation/142115-alleged-chinese-drug-lord-nabbed-angeles-pampanga

Its really a good progress among the other previous pres. Duterte is  a well respected man even before his term as president. His father image make them feel so secured and comfortable being under his judiciary. He is a good logical thinker and humor makes him more popular^^

[bryant.coleman]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

[Vinz24]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

[zikel]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

in any case it is impossible to legalize drugs. It will ruin the nation and lead to its complete degradation. President of the Philippines chose the right path, though very heavy

[iCEBREAKER]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

in any case it is impossible to legalize drugs. It will ruin the nation and lead to its complete degradation. President of the Philippines chose the right path, though very heavy

Drug Prohibition increases the price of drugs to ridiculous levels, forcing addicts to commit crimes to gain the required funds.

The drugs themselves are inert, blameless substances, and 99% of drug users would rather just sit around doing drugs than commit crimes.

Drug Prohibition has ruined the Philippines and lead to its complete degradation, as exemplified by Duterte's mass murder of the poor.

All the FUD about "zomg legalization will cause the End Of Teh World!!11!" has never proven accurate.  Not in Holland, nor America, nor Colorado/Oregon/California.

But keep on doing more of the same thing and expecting different results.  Let me know how that works out for you.

[npredtorch]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

Why would you legalize a drug that can damage your brain. This will not and never be an option. Many innocent victims and crimes are related by drugs. This crime will just go up if it will legalize.

in any case it is impossible to legalize drugs. It will ruin the nation and lead to its complete degradation. President of the Philippines chose the right path, though very heavy

Drug Prohibition increases the price of drugs to ridiculous levels, forcing addicts to commit crimes to gain the required funds.

The drugs themselves are inert, blameless substances, and 99% of drug users would rather just sit around doing drugs than commit crimes.

Drug Prohibition has ruined the Philippines and lead to its complete degradation, as exemplified by Duterte's mass murder of the poor.

All the FUD about "zomg legalization will cause the End Of Teh World!!11!" has never proven accurate.  Not in Holland, nor America, nor Colorado/Oregon/California.

But keep on doing more of the same thing and expecting different results.  Let me know how that works out for you.

I don't agree with this - "99% of drug users would rather just sit around doing drugs than commit crimes". Will they sniff drugs all the time? No , and you missed the fact that most child rape case suspects are all drug addicts. Don't put the fire on the prohibition, put it on to the violators.

[bittraffic]

Donal Trump wants to be Duterte then he should kill them. Thats what Duterte do.

I would like this happen to US as well. they should kill those who sells drugs, they causes teens death so its and eye for an eye and tooth for tooth. US will see how things could get safer in the end even with all houses have guns of their own, i bet this will keep the country a better place.

[deadsilent]

Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

Yeah, thats true. Thats why we have President Rodrigo Duterte to clean the mess that was made by the past administrations. Im very thankful because he won and became the president of the Philippines. He has the heart to help poor and he loves his country. I dont care about the killed 1800 drug addicts because they chose that path.

[groll]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

I beg to disagree with your opinion. Drug legalization is a worst option. If drugs will be legalized, crime rate will increase. What benefit can a person get from illegal drugs? Drugs make a person crazy. It can only cause harm to one's health and can cause harm to the innocent ones. Why did you say that drugs will be legalized. For what purpose? Yes, let's say that Duterte's war on drugs is crazy. But it is much more crazier to have an option like drug legalization.

[electronicash]

This figure terrifies me. I do not know how to treat this. Very cruel. Although of course it can, and will benefit the country

No. It is not going to benefit the country. On the other hand, the situation will deteriorate. The law and order will collapse, and the poverty will worsen. If Duterte want to eradicate drug usage in Philippines, then he might need to exterminate up to ten million Filipinos. The easier option is drug legalization and regulation. But at this point of time, I don't think that he will consider that step.

I beg to disagree with your opinion. Drug legalization is a worst option. If drugs will be legalized, crime rate will increase. What benefit can a person get from illegal drugs? Drugs make a person crazy. It can only cause harm to one's health and can cause harm to the innocent ones. Why did you say that drugs will be legalized. For what purpose? Yes, let's say that Duterte's war on drugs is crazy. But it is much more crazier to have an option like drug legalization.

he needs to definite drugs though. Alcohol is a drug andlegal. but even so Duterte also ban alcohol on streets and bars are closed after 12Midnight. else a pack of army are going to approach your drinking session.

[andresem]

nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved

[clickerz]

nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved

You may have a point but since it is under the law that it is illegal, you have nothing to do but to comply. Any violent reaction will be dealt with,if it endangers the life of the arresting personnel sorry but its better for the police to be alive than the drug lord etc.

War on drugs is a bloody campaign, there already deads  but still there are people who are not afraid.They are already reprimanded even before Duterte become President.

[iCEBREAKER]

nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved

You may have a point but since it is under the law that it is illegal, you have nothing to do but to comply. Any violent reaction will be dealt with,if it endangers the life of the arresting personnel sorry but its better for the police to be alive than the drug lord etc.

War on drugs is a bloody campaign, there already deads  but still there are people who are not afraid.They are already reprimanded even before Duterte become President.

If you comply with tyrants and their intolerable, violent acts of vigilante murder and statist oppression, you are a domesticated animal, not a human being.

The War on Drugs (Prohibition on steroids) is a giant scam and pure hubris.  It's too bad most people don't realize this until *after* massive damage has been inflicted on their society.

The War on Drugs Is Over. Drugs Won.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a25070/war-on-drugs-is-over/

Can the War on Drugs ever be won?
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-War-on-Drugs-ever-be-won

No war on an idea can ever be won. Armies can defeat other armies and subdue national populations, but they cannot kill an idea because it isn't a living thing. One might think of killing everyone who has the idea, but in the case of drugs, that would mean wiping out virtually the entire human race, and the idea would come right back anyway. All of us who are not tiny children know what drugs are. If we did not, someone would soon discover them just as our ancient ancestors did. War on Drugs cheerleaders need to ask themselves, "Which do you consider a greater threat to humanity, drugs or mass termination of nearly the entire human race?"

Twelve years ago, heroin addiction in Portugal had reached epidemic proportions. People were dying in the streets because they had no idea what the potency of a street purchased smack was, and no way of knowing what it had been diluted with, or if it had been diluted at all.

Instead of jailing ever larger portions of their populace, the Portuguese  decided to try a different approach. They decriminalized drugs, and focused the money they had been spending on policing, trials, prisons and probation on drug rehab and education. Possession of small amounts of drugs are a misdemeanor similar to a parking violation. Addicts get help instead of jail. The result is they have cut heroin addiction in half and overdose deaths are nearly unheard of because addicts can legally get pure heroin from their treatment program. Costs of the program are also far lower than the War on Drugs approach.

Drugs Won the War
Nicholas Kristof JUNE 13, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/opinion/14kristof.html

This year marks the 40th anniversary of President Richard Nixon’s start of the war on drugs, and it now appears that drugs have won.

“We’ve spent a trillion dollars prosecuting the war on drugs,” Norm Stamper, a former police chief of Seattle, told me. “What do we have to show for it? Drugs are more readily available, at lower prices and higher levels of potency. It’s a dismal failure.”

[funkenstein]

iCEBREAKER has it.  Thank you. 

Prohibition is universally detested as barbaric idiocy by people from all sides of political spectrum, all churches, basically anyone who actually cares about life at all and is capable of thought.  One good voice on the matter and all to often ignored is LEAP - law enforcement against prohibition   http://leap.cc


"Drugs are too dangerous to leave in the hands of criminals"

Duterte said some good things, but his policy in regards to prohibition leaves little choice but to be certain he is an agent of a drug running cartel eager to whipe out all competition.  Pathetic waste of valuable time. 

[LuanX3]

nothing good war on drugs not brings
only a waste of state budget

Bureaucracy in relation to medical, scientists, teachers etc
this is what the war on drugs in Russia
read links
http://russialist.org/admirals-suicide-shakes-russias-healthcare-system/
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russian-scientist-hounded-by-officials-after-buying-banned-substance-48243

Politics Duterte will bring degradation of the country and innocent victims,
but the problem will not be solved

You may have a point but since it is under the law that it is illegal, you have nothing to do but to comply. Any violent reaction will be dealt with,if it endangers the life of the arresting personnel sorry but its better for the police to be alive than the drug lord etc.

War on drugs is a bloody campaign, there already deads  but still there are people who are not afraid.They are already reprimanded even before Duterte become President.

If you comply with tyrants and their intolerable, violent acts of vigilante murder and statist oppression, you are a domesticated animal, not a human being.

The War on Drugs (Prohibition on steroids) is a giant scam and pure hubris.  It's too bad most people don't realize this until *after* massive damage has been inflicted on their society.

The War on Drugs Is Over. Drugs Won.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a25070/war-on-drugs-is-over/

Can the War on Drugs ever be won?
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-War-on-Drugs-ever-be-won

No war on an idea can ever be won. Armies can defeat other armies and subdue national populations, but they cannot kill an idea because it isn't a living thing. One might think of killing everyone who has the idea, but in the case of drugs, that would mean wiping out virtually the entire human race, and the idea would come right back anyway. All of us who are not tiny children know what drugs are. If we did not, someone would soon discover them just as our ancient ancestors did. War on Drugs cheerleaders need to ask themselves, "Which do you consider a greater threat to humanity, drugs or mass termination of nearly the entire human race?"

Twelve years ago, heroin addiction in Portugal had reached epidemic proportions. People were dying in the streets because they had no idea what the potency of a street purchased smack was, and no way of knowing what it had been diluted with, or if it had been diluted at all.

Instead of jailing ever larger portions of their populace, the Portuguese  decided to try a different approach. They decriminalized drugs, and focused the money they had been spending on policing, trials, prisons and probation on drug rehab and education. Possession of small amounts of drugs are a misdemeanor similar to a parking violation. Addicts get help instead of jail. The result is they have cut heroin addiction in half and overdose deaths are nearly unheard of because addicts can legally get pure heroin from their treatment program. Costs of the program are also far lower than the War on Drugs approach.

Drugs Won the War
Nicholas Kristof JUNE 13, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/opinion/14kristof.html

This year marks the 40th anniversary of President Richard Nixon’s start of the war on drugs, and it now appears that drugs have won.

“We’ve spent a trillion dollars prosecuting the war on drugs,” Norm Stamper, a former police chief of Seattle, told me. “What do we have to show for it? Drugs are more readily available, at lower prices and higher levels of potency. It’s a dismal failure.”

I would agree with this. Even if I am a Filipino. There are plenty of countries that had declared war on drugs and has not yet succeeded until now. And because the drug trade cannot be destroyed by killing more and more people, drugs just get more and more pure. Because, the purer the drugs the easier it is to transport than having a lower purity. Also the prices increase based on its purity.

[carlisle1]

Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

I agree , as you said they are scourge upon society so they deserve to be punished because they are the reason why there are so many committed in past few years . they don't not have any contribution to the Philippines they are just making other people's life miserable especially the youth so these drug dealers as well as their protectors must be punished and sent to jail or maybe sentenced to death .