Thoughts on signature campaigns - helping or hurting?

[HabBear]

What are your thoughts on signature campaigns these days? I know there's been plenty of debate over it's usefulness and burden on the forum.

I look through the first page of the Bitcoin Discussion board and see majority of the threads have multiple pages of posts, indicating that new topics are not being created but old topics are continuing to be responded to. My thought is that very few topics can have discussion that lasts 10+ pages of posts before members start repeating responses by others. Is that what we're seeing here? I feel like the signature campaigns should reward people for starting new posts, generating new discussion, not just parroting comments made by others on the same threads over and over.

Your thoughts?

Cheers!

(And in full disclosure, I've participated in signature campaigns int he past although I'm not involved with one now.)

[neochiny]

What are your thoughts on signature campaigns these days? I know there's been plenty of debate over it's usefulness and burden on the forum.

I look through the first page of the Bitcoin Discussion board and see majority of the threads have multiple pages of posts, indicating that new topics are not being created but old topics are continuing to be responded to. My thought is that very few topics can have discussion that lasts 10+ pages of posts before members start repeating responses by others. Is that what we're seeing here? I feel like the signature campaigns should reward people for starting new posts, generating new discussion, not just parroting comments made by others on the same threads over and over.

Your thoughts?

Cheers!

(And in full disclosure, I've participated in signature campaigns int he past although I'm not involved with one now.)

Well, I certainly hope there were more new topics being created since it does get monotonous, especially when looking at the same ol same ol threads. Though for a topic to get 30+ pages is not surprising since the community is growing so plenty new user would also want to give their own view.
Campaigns can probably give incentives for creating new topics(as some do for posts in gambling section) , but that would most likely create more spam(senseless/repeated/off-topic) (more work for the mods ,they seem extra active these days, a lot of threads getting deleted).

[gentlemand]

Maybe you should move this to meta, I dunno.

It's a fine balancing act which currently has tripped and landed on its face. It's probably brought in a lot of new users and drives quite a bit of commerce. At the same time it doesn't half inspire a lot of tripe as well.

I think their future is going to depend on how utterly sick the forum operators become of it and whether the campaign managers are willing to be more proactive. If it stays as it is the party might be curtailed.

[btvGainer]

What are your thoughts on signature campaigns these days? I know there's been plenty of debate over it's usefulness and burden on the forum.

I look through the first page of the Bitcoin Discussion board and see majority of the threads have multiple pages of posts, indicating that new topics are not being created but old topics are continuing to be responded to. My thought is that very few topics can have discussion that lasts 10+ pages of posts before members start repeating responses by others. Is that what we're seeing here? I feel like the signature campaigns should reward people for starting new posts, generating new discussion, not just parroting comments made by others on the same threads over and over.

Your thoughts?

Cheers!

(And in full disclosure, I've participated in signature campaigns int he past although I'm not involved with one now.)

Sorry to say that although you are not wearing any signature but even your thread and post is also not unique.A lot of similar threads and posts already exists on forum

[Velkro]

Your thoughts?

This forum is unique thanks to that. Im not sure if this is good overall, but there are for sure good things in that feature and bad things.
Personally i don't attend any of that campaigns because i have regular job with good money. I put in my sig sites i like, like on every other forum out there

[LTU_btc]

Signature spaming is serious problem. Due to spam,  it's hard to something unique and interesting. Same questions, same answers, only in different words. Is it possible to add something new when topic have 30-40 pages. Mostly only reading OP and last few posts. I think moderators have to react stricter. When topic question is answered or answers started to be almost same, they should lock thread to avoid scam.

[chennan]

Well, considering that you could argue that it drives useless conversations to be happening that has very repetitive idea floating around on a single thread over and over; you could also argue that it is the responsibility of the signature campaign to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen.  Sig campaigns (and I really can't blame them) go through and just see if it is X amount of length without reading into what that person is saying and in what context.  I feel that if every campaign was doing that, then what you see on the forums honestly would be so bad.

[illyiller]

Maybe you should move this to meta, I dunno.

It's a fine balancing act which currently has tripped and landed on its face. It's probably brought in a lot of new users and drives quite a bit of commerce. At the same time it doesn't half inspire a lot of tripe as well.

Agreed, this belongs in Meta and will probably be moved there. I'm sort of ambivalent about the whole thing. Yes, I have a signature ad. I genuinely enjoy posting on the forum and am happy to receive payment for something I would do anyway.

The problem, of course, is that people who are willing to work for extremely low wages are happy to spam the forum (and they wouldn't otherwise do it). It makes the forum less readable. However, I'm sure it generates a ton of traffic, which helps the site's ad revenue. I don't see anything changing.

[angaper]

Signature spaming is serious problem. Due to spam,  it's hard to something unique and interesting. Same questions, same answers, only in different words. Is it possible to add something new when topic have 30-40 pages. Mostly only reading OP and last few posts. I think moderators have to react stricter. When topic question is answered or answers started to be almost same, they should lock thread to avoid scam.

Yes, I agree. It is true that these days I have been involved in signature campaigns, but I have to admit that this massive tendency to post senseless things is only decreasing the quality of this forum. And some old threads asking about punctual issues related to three years ago valid questions are still being answered these days, so I also think certain threads should be closed to avoid this situation.

[gentlemand]

The problem, of course, is that people who are willing to work for extremely low wages are happy to spam the forum (and they wouldn't otherwise do it).

It's easy to forget that there are many posters in developing countries. With a couple of farmed accounts you could probably earn just as much here as in a crappy regular job. That's a huge incentive to keep piling up the spam.

[Yakamoto]

What are your thoughts on signature campaigns these days? I know there's been plenty of debate over it's usefulness and burden on the forum.

I look through the first page of the Bitcoin Discussion board and see majority of the threads have multiple pages of posts, indicating that new topics are not being created but old topics are continuing to be responded to. My thought is that very few topics can have discussion that lasts 10+ pages of posts before members start repeating responses by others. Is that what we're seeing here? I feel like the signature campaigns should reward people for starting new posts, generating new discussion, not just parroting comments made by others on the same threads over and over.

Your thoughts?

Cheers!

(And in full disclosure, I've participated in signature campaigns int he past although I'm not involved with one now.)

So this is going to be a biased response because I'm currently in a signature campaign, but I personally think that even though they end up having people respond in a similar manner to relatively homogeneous topics, however they probably do end up engaging people more with the forum when you compare it to what this would be like if there were no signature campaigns. Oftentimes signature campaigns give new users a means of entering the Bitcoin economy in a way that is a bit more efficient and effective than signature campaigns. While I do believe there have to be some fixes with how the replies are quite simple and monotone, they are more than likely a benefit overall.

[swogerino]

It would all depend on the poster.
If they posting crud then they should not be paid.

[BitHodler]

Signature campaigns are a great thing, but the point is that (mainly people from third world countries) are posting low quality google translate crap.

Also, somehow I have the feeling that a lot of these newbie noobs have found this forum because they were searching for ways to earn money on internet.

That might explain their level of ignorance regarding Bitcoin and everything around the price.

[JeffBrad12]

What are your thoughts on signature campaigns these days? I know there's been plenty of debate over it's usefulness and burden on the forum.

I know about this like a dilemma at the same time that is usefulness and burden, because this forum is getting their funds to treat this forum.

I look through the first page of the Bitcoin Discussion board and see majority of the threads have multiple pages of posts, indicating that new topics are not being created but old topics are continuing to be responded to.

I believe it and is very very often I'm always seeing a people is surviving or recurring the old poster with spam post just like a bump posting.

My thought is that very few topics can have discussion that lasts 10+ pages of posts before members start repeating responses by others. Is that what we're seeing here?

And all the topics is having a more than 10+ feedback average is just a useless post or just like a spam post like what do you do with you btc, if you had ... btc and blab blablabla....

I feel like the signature campaigns should reward people for starting new posts, generating new discussion, not just parroting comments made by others on the same threads over and over.

But in some campaign is not really educating their participant to make a more quality in their posting, and in some signature is applying more than 150 participants and too bad, very impossible for monitoring a lot of participants that makes the participant is can act as he pleases.

[Wowcoin]

Usually helps but sometimes also hurt . Because you time finishing sig campaign laws suddenly you could trust neg or be hacked or banned because migraine also expect that wages have done nothing shovel . Helping because demand at home also helps in our need.

[illyiller]

Usually helps but sometimes also hurt . Because you time finishing sig campaign laws suddenly you could trust neg or be hacked or banned because migraine also expect that wages have done nothing shovel . Helping because demand at home also helps in our need.

Best post in the thread, hands down.

As blatantly awful as this post is, nothing will change. Sig campaigns are just too good for traffic. I just avoid the long 300-page threads because guys like these are just talking similar nonsense with their other alt accounts and other spammers.

[Sponsoredby15]

My thoughts is it will help me a lots because it is a legitimate program. You cannot scam here just follow there rule and you can earn bitcoin. You can also weekly salary or monthly salary according to your campaign rules. So take this as an advantage of your in earning bitcoin. Hard earn is best than easy earn.

[Vinz24]

Actually I see it as a win win situation for everyone, For investor, for us who do the campaign and ofcourse for this forum site to keep it alive and be informative to everyone who doesnt know bitcoin yet.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I think lots of signature campaign participants make really poor quality, shit posts but it's up to each individual signature campaign manager to be in charge of this.
If poor quality posters get kicked out of their sig campaign then they won't continue doing it.

I don't see a problem with people being in sig campaigns as long as they post on topic & add to the topic of conversation.

In some way though sig campaigns are positive for this forum because without them it'd be a lot quieter with much, much fewer posts & activity.

(And yes I'm aware that I am in a sig campaign but I try my best to make decent posts)

[monsanto]

Bitcointalk gets its traffic from signature campaigns and signature campaigns pay because of bitcointalk traffic, which help offset the cost of developing new shitcoins to dump on humanity daily.  It's like a pyramid scheme eating a ponzi eating a pyramid.  Here is a superfluous pic to illustrate this healthy ecosystem: