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December 06, 2016, 06:52:18 PM |
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As I said recently, the owner of Bitcoin doesn't have to be Satoshi Nakamoto - that's just a made up name (you can choose just any two names you want and create something while you're going to be anonymous all the time). I was sure about that and still am, I mean.. The guy who created Bitcoin seems to be hiding away from the public.
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December 06, 2016, 06:56:47 PM |
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This is all so complicated. I've been reading through the comments here. If indeed Maxwell does create his hard fork, what happens? Do we have two kinds of bitcoin or do we still have the same thing but somethings changes? What happens to the bitcoins in my wallet right now? Can someone point me to an infographic about or a document describing this fork we are all talking about?  |
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December 06, 2016, 08:11:54 PM |
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No one owns Bitcoin right?
Not until the patents are settled. ROFL Nice joke, or is it?  |
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TKeenan
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December 08, 2016, 11:56:25 PM |
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No one owns Bitcoin right?
Not until the patents are settled. ROFL Nice joke, or is it? Not a joke to the guys applying for patents, that's for sure. |
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ufaiz50
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December 09, 2016, 12:35:16 AM |
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I do not think seriously about the owners of bitcoin bitcoin as long as it does not significantly affect bitcoin itself. I just found out about their owners bitcoin
whether there is a link?
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December 09, 2016, 01:05:16 AM |
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Can I buy bitcoins and then sell whenever I want or not? can the imaginary owner of bitcoin withdraw coins from any wallet?
Bitcoin with or without an owner still is traded and can be mined.
Who owns dollar? besides the US government having the power to print them literally anyone holding any amount owns the dollar, makes any sens now?
About the hard fork I think the best thing is to inform the community first and even post a sticky topic in main forum section with a poll to gather a few thousands votes at the very least, because people will never trust the system again if the decision made by a few experts and developers only.
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Bitcoin0916
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December 09, 2016, 01:57:26 AM |
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A lot of news stating that there was someone who dominated the bitcoin, if so, surely they can do speculation and full control. But when prices go up they are not attempting to sell even though profit was more than 300%. I think it is just an opinion, rise and fall of the price of the bitcoin I noticed was natural, not domination by someone.
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Ryan Dugan
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December 09, 2016, 03:09:06 AM |
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Shit.
Noone can own bitcoin. Get a brain. |
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December 09, 2016, 03:15:40 AM |
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The OP is just trying to imply that Gmaxwell is calling the shots in how and where to bring and steer Bitcoin's development. What the OP did not think of is that the miners must first achieve and have consensus if the changes be accepted and be implemented or not. So if Bitcoin was forked from the Core developers by the Bitcoin Unlimited fellows, can we say that Roger Ver now owns Bitcoin?
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December 09, 2016, 05:39:08 AM |
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Shit.
Noone can own bitcoin. Get a brain. Yep.. that's my thought too... The thread has a kind of bad premise, even if Maxwell has quite a bit of influence, he only has influence as long as he is making sense to convince others to go along with whatever he happens to be proposing to do or not do. |
1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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December 09, 2016, 06:57:01 AM |
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I doubt it! I don't think so that there is an owner of bitcoin. All I know is all of us own it as long as we have in our wallets, I just knew is the creator only. Upon reading, many developers hates him because they say that he is a toxic and not a good contributor.
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December 09, 2016, 07:19:39 AM |
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Too many people are gullible. Who would want to not go Anonymous?
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TKeenan
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December 10, 2016, 12:52:08 AM |
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Upon reading, many developers hates him because they say that he is a toxic and not a good contributor.
This is correct. Many hate him and he is not a good contributor. We just can't get him to leave. Somebody needs to delete his commit access like they did to Gavin |
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JayJuanGee
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December 10, 2016, 04:18:50 AM |
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Upon reading, many developers hates him because they say that he is a toxic and not a good contributor.
This is correct. Many hate him and he is not a good contributor. We just can't get him to leave. Somebody needs to delete his commit access like they did to Gavin I don't know a lot about the topic, but my understanding is that there is a considerable difference between Gavin and Maxwell, just in terms of their level of activism in bitcoin. Gavin had not contributed any code for years, he submitted some proposals that were not accepted (XT and Classic) and then he did the questionable thing with Craig Wright. I thought that Maxwell did contribute code from time to time, and is very involved in core development issues. You may not agree with some of the politics or methodologies of Maxwell or his way of expressing some of his views, but he seems to be actively involved and actively participating in core meetings on a regular basis, no? so why would anyone have their commit access pulled when they are actively involved in software development, as a contrasting point to the lack of involvement of Gavin.. from my understanding of the matter. |
1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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December 10, 2016, 04:26:28 AM |
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Shit.
Noone can own bitcoin. Get a brain. Yep.. that's my thought too... The thread has a kind of bad premise, even if Maxwell has quite a bit of influence, he only has influence as long as he is making sense to convince others to go along with whatever he happens to be proposing to do or not do. Pretty much. And claiming so is also pretty much a slap in the face to literally the hundreds of other contributors sending patches to wumpus—since the implication is clearly that they're too braindead to make up their own mind and instead just go along with whatever gmax says. This is partly the reason why the crazy people have basically zero developers helping them seize control. And gmax doesn't have commit access to the repo anyway. Duh. |
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December 10, 2016, 05:39:41 AM |
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Shit.
Noone can own bitcoin. Get a brain. Yep.. that's my thought too... The thread has a kind of bad premise, even if Maxwell has quite a bit of influence, he only has influence as long as he is making sense to convince others to go along with whatever he happens to be proposing to do or not do. Pretty much. And claiming so is also pretty much a slap in the face to literally the hundreds of other contributors sending patches to wumpus—since the implication is clearly that they're too braindead to make up their own mind and instead just go along with whatever gmax says. This is partly the reason why the crazy people have basically zero developers helping them seize control. And gmax doesn't have commit access to the repo anyway. Duh. Is this all real or just a joke. So what will happen if somebody owns bitcoin, that is the next question. Will bitcoin be controlled by maxwell, will decentralization of bitcoin remains or not? Will the blocksize changes or not? Im not going to react neagatively as of now, but if things go out of control due to maxwell owning bitcoin then thats another story. Lets just hope that if maxwell owns bitcoin, bitcoin will be better than ever. |
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December 23, 2016, 02:07:48 AM |
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Shit.
Noone can own bitcoin. Get a brain. Yep.. that's my thought too... The thread has a kind of bad premise, even if Maxwell has quite a bit of influence, he only has influence as long as he is making sense to convince others to go along with whatever he happens to be proposing to do or not do. Pretty much. And claiming so is also pretty much a slap in the face to literally the hundreds of other contributors sending patches to wumpus—since the implication is clearly that they're too braindead to make up their own mind and instead just go along with whatever gmax says. This is partly the reason why the crazy people have basically zero developers helping them seize control. And gmax doesn't have commit access to the repo anyway. Duh. Is this all real or just a joke. So what will happen if somebody owns bitcoin, that is the next question. Will bitcoin be controlled by maxwell, will decentralization of bitcoin remains or not? Will the blocksize changes or not? Im not going to react neagatively as of now, but if things go out of control due to maxwell owning bitcoin then thats another story. Lets just hope that if maxwell owns bitcoin, bitcoin will be better than ever. Maxwell owns bitcoin and things are not better than ever. Worse than ever. High fees, and terrible transaction throughput. more than 50,000 stuck in the fucked up system. With large blocks - bitcoin price would be over $1,500. |
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December 23, 2016, 03:14:09 AM |
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If many people are very unhappy with Bitcoin because it is slow and has low transaction throughput, why not support Litecoin? It has 4 times the speed and 4 times the allowed transaction throughput. Roger Ver should start supporting it instead of advocating for his hard fork.
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December 23, 2016, 03:15:45 AM |
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So he is Satoshi Nakamoto?
Why he is the owner of bitcoin? Can he control bitcoin? Ofcourse not! No one is controljng bitcoin and no one can control it. Where the hell did you get that news? It making me laugh.
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December 23, 2016, 03:48:35 AM |
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So he is Satoshi Nakamoto?
Why he is the owner of bitcoin? Can he control bitcoin? Ofcourse not! No one is controljng bitcoin and no one can control it. Where the hell did you get that news? It making me laugh.
i agree with this as we all having bitcoin in our wallet and we should be the owner of bitcoin too. bitcoin is belong for every people which want to make profit and they should be proud for this and maybe its only the hoax news to make that guy famous in bitcoin industry. |
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