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September 01, 2016, 07:59:09 PM
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Thanks.. I will try it .. but where is my 2.1BTC goes .. will it return back to my wallet
https://blockchain.info/address/1JvYyMcpL12zZrspX4PXRy54BCsTfAyWXM

Your 2.1BTC haven't really gone anywhere except the intended destination from what I see. 1JvYyMcpL12zZrspX4PXRy54BCsTfAyWXM is the intended destination, isn't it? I don't get why you keep posting that. It should return to your wallet if it never get confirmed and ended up getting dropped (it should've returned after you did zapwallettxes but not sure what happened).

                                                                       
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September 01, 2016, 08:00:08 PM
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Thanks.. I will try it .. but where is my 2.1BTC goes .. will it return back to my wallet
https://blockchain.info/address/1JvYyMcpL12zZrspX4PXRy54BCsTfAyWXM

If this transaction will not get confirmed then the funds will be returned to the sender which seems to be 1Fnpr866zeRb24maVTtj6Kq162FgKy3c5B.
So if you are the sender you should see the wallet balance will be like before otherwise you should ask the sender to send again.
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September 01, 2016, 08:01:57 PM
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Thanks.. I will try it .. but where is my 2.1BTC goes .. will it return back to my wallet
https://blockchain.info/address/1JvYyMcpL12zZrspX4PXRy54BCsTfAyWXM

The bitcoin was never in your wallet in the first place.  Bitcoins don't "go" anywhere. There are simply transactions that get recorded in the blockchain.

If the transaction gets included into the blockchain then it is called confirmed. Then each additional block added to the blockchain after that is considered to be an additional "confirmation".  When there are enough blocks stacked on top of the block with your transaction, the transaction is generally considered to be permanent.

Since your transaction is not confirmed yet, the bitcoins are still recorded in the blockchain as belonging to you.

There are two possibilities:

1. Your wallet has forgotten about the confirmed transaction ca1e4dff695a5a2649514ecefc7a14e693ca706ccc2bf1d47a02fdfa67ba848d where it received the 4.84802738 BTC back on April 29.  If this has happened, then the rescan will cause the wallet to read through the entire blockchain again to find all the transactions that the wallet has control over.  Therefore, it should find that transaction in the blockchain and update the balance that it shows you to include those 4.84802738 BTC.

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2. Your wallet still remembers your new unconfirmed transaction that spends the 4.84802738 BTC, but has forgotten that the 2.74802738 BTC output is going to an address that the wallet controls.  If this has happened, then you may need to try the zapwallettxes again, or you may need to try the rescan.  zapwallettxes should cause the wallet to forget about the unconfirmed transaction and search the blockchain to find the transaction that paid you, but perhaps for some reason it failed to do that.

If neither zapwallettxes nor rescan fix your problem, then there may be something wrong with the wallet.  You'll then need to find the private key for the 1Fnpr866zeRb24maVTtj6Kq162FgKy3c5B address and import that private key into some other wallet that is working properly.  The new wallet should then re-scan the blockchain and find the balance that you control.
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September 01, 2016, 08:36:47 PM
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Thanks.. I remember my wallet lost many coin before.. will try to dump the private key and import to new wallet ...

Thanks.. I will try it .. but where is my 2.1BTC goes .. will it return back to my wallet
https://blockchain.info/address/1JvYyMcpL12zZrspX4PXRy54BCsTfAyWXM

The bitcoin was never in your wallet in the first place.  Bitcoins don't "go" anywhere. There are simply transactions that get recorded in the blockchain.

If the transaction gets included into the blockchain then it is called confirmed. Then each additional block added to the blockchain after that is considered to be an additional "confirmation".  When there are enough blocks stacked on top of the block with your transaction, the transaction is generally considered to be permanent.

Since your transaction is not confirmed yet, the bitcoins are still recorded in the blockchain as belonging to you.

There are two possibilities:

1. Your wallet has forgotten about the confirmed transaction ca1e4dff695a5a2649514ecefc7a14e693ca706ccc2bf1d47a02fdfa67ba848d where it received the 4.84802738 BTC back on April 29.  If this has happened, then the rescan will cause the wallet to read through the entire blockchain again to find all the transactions that the wallet has control over.  Therefore, it should find that transaction in the blockchain and update the balance that it shows you to include those 4.84802738 BTC.

OR

2. Your wallet still remembers your new unconfirmed transaction that spends the 4.84802738 BTC, but has forgotten that the 2.74802738 BTC output is going to an address that the wallet controls.  If this has happened, then you may need to try the zapwallettxes again, or you may need to try the rescan.  zapwallettxes should cause the wallet to forget about the unconfirmed transaction and search the blockchain to find the transaction that paid you, but perhaps for some reason it failed to do that.

If neither zapwallettxes nor rescan fix your problem, then there may be something wrong with the wallet.  You'll then need to find the private key for the 1Fnpr866zeRb24maVTtj6Kq162FgKy3c5B address and import that private key into some other wallet that is working properly.  The new wallet should then re-scan the blockchain and find the balance that you control.
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September 01, 2016, 09:01:09 PM
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Thanks.. I remember my wallet lost many coin before.. will try to dump the private key and import to new wallet ...

You can permanently lose access to your bitcoins if you lose access to your private keys.  That (the private keys) is what the wallet is storing. It is not storing any bitcoins.

If you delete the wallet.dat file and you have not backed it up, or if your system crashes and you have not backed up your wallet, then you will lose access to the bitcoins.  It isn't that the bitcoins are gone from your wallet (they were never there in the first place). It's that the private keys, that allow you to prove that the bitcoins in the blockchain are under your control, are gone from your wallet.

It is therefore VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE AT LEAST ONE BACKUP OF YOUR WALLET IN A SECURE LOCATION BEFORE YOU START MESSING AROUND WITH IT.
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September 02, 2016, 09:05:41 AM
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If you remember that your wallet lost some coins, than why are you using the same wallet? And now transaction is big money, 2.1 bitcoin and I have one more question, why are you using zero fee? Pay some fee and you and your transaction's confirmation will be more secure.

Also if you deleted transactions date, than when all networks forget that, it will be returned to sender's adress, it won't be lost as I know.

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September 02, 2016, 09:02:42 PM
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i am testing zero fee option and not successful  Cry
If you remember that your wallet lost some coins, than why are you using the same wallet? And now transaction is big money, 2.1 bitcoin and I have one more question, why are you using zero fee? Pay some fee and you and your transaction's confirmation will be more secure.

Also if you deleted transactions date, than when all networks forget that, it will be returned to sender's adress, it won't be lost as I know.
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