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May 18, 2013, 11:43:02 AM
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Will be waiting and watching for your best imitation of Satoshi's genius, for that's all it will ever be, an imitation. Might even buy a few if they are good enough
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May 18, 2013, 02:57:08 PM
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Bitcoin is an ongoing experiment, like democracy.  Time will tell whether either will succeed.
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May 18, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
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Will be waiting and watching for your best imitation of Satoshi's genius, for that's all it will ever be, an imitation. Might even buy a few if they are good enough

Satoshia imitated and innovated on hashcash.

I have already solved the final problem (#2) of the Proof-of-harddisk. I found the random entropy I needed!

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May 19, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
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I have already solved the final problem (#2) of the Proof-of-harddisk. I found the random entropy I needed!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189239.msg2196083#msg2196083

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May 20, 2013, 02:20:51 AM
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Great article
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May 23, 2013, 10:38:59 AM
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Off-topic a bit, this is excellent article about gold and the impossibility for hyperinflation of the entire global economy:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-rallied-years-misunderstanding-021935344.html

Hyperinflation only occurs where it is so bad in one currency regime and there is another stable one to run to. There is no other stable currency to run to, neither the Yuan nor gold have enough market size to accommodate liquidity for the $40 trillion in global capital.

QE transfers ownership from the middle-class to the bankers, and the dollar loans are going to the developing world, whom are thus now implicitly short the dollar (developing countries will have a liquidity crisis when the cash flow from labor and product exports to Europe and Japan collapse circa 2016).

As Martin Armstrong explains on his blog, gold will skyrocket only after 2015, when the global economy goes into cardiac arrest and the confiscations go into hyperdrive.

Gold is taking a breather as the economic implosion of Europe and Japan has been delayed a bit by various measures, such as Spain stealing the entire social security fund to buy its sovereign bonds. Dollar is rallying until 2015, as every where else in the developed world (including China!) the (sovereign) debt crisis is much worse. Canada and Australia are dependent on China.

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May 23, 2013, 08:07:26 PM
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Not quoting it - mobile - but nice find, AM. "Implicitly [holding a] short [position] on the dollar" ... An analysis I wholeheartedly agree with, and that should be passed around in financial circles. People need to understand this and what it means (whether it comes to a head in 2015 or gets delayed a few years, it is coming).

Uberlurker. Been here since the Finney transaction. Please consider this before replying; there is a good chance I've heard it before.

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May 28, 2013, 10:52:51 AM
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Some relevant commentary from me about the coming massive theft of everything physical that can't be easily hidden and transported:

http://www.mpettis.com/2013/05/21/excess-german-savings-not-thrift-caused-the-european-crisis/#comment-23390

Please excuse my sloppy writing style and typos. I am rushing.

Note France is moving aggressively against physical gold.

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May 28, 2013, 12:31:11 PM
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There's also the question if it's worth to start mining it in outer space…
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June 02, 2013, 10:01:05 AM
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Much progress has been made on analyzing a potential proof-of-hard drive currency:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189239.msg2271429#msg2271429

Read from the linked comment through page 15 of the linked thread at least.

I have debunked the "SocialistCoin":

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189239.msg2347645#msg2347645

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June 02, 2013, 11:17:44 AM
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Registered a new domain:

selfcoin.me

I am thinking this fits the concept of normal users being able to mint coins with proof-of-hard drive space, simply by downloading and running the client. No need to buy anything. No technical setup.

Also I am hoping this name implies autonomy from government control.

I still have the prior names:

duracoin.com/net/org
duracash.com/net/org

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June 02, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
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Registered:

autonomoney.com/net/org

Does anyone get it?

autonomous money

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June 03, 2013, 05:44:55 AM
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The following is relevant about how the leaders are not in control:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/02/new-world-order/
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4946&cpage=1#comment-402737

Let me expound a bit on socialism and the ilk.

Although it is true that some (perhaps even most) very wealthy people misallocate capital, so one might think it is better to redistribute to the masses, redistribution that is not able to distinguish productive from parasitical entities, thus destroys productivity with no clear gain in transfer between parasites.

The reason wealthy people misallocate capital is for the same reason that top-down centralized polices can't anneal (optimize) local opportunities. I wrote extensively about this math at the following linked blog comment:

http://www.mpettis.com/2013/05/21/excess-german-savings-not-thrift-caused-the-european-crisis/#comment-23309

Also see what I wrote today in another blog.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4946&cpage=1#comment-402781

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@Monster:
Rather I think we elect leaders to make decisions, because we disagree and there exists a power vacuum that enables such leaders to have power to force us to agree (and this is why when the misallocation implodes economically, the pent up resentment can explode into violent civil war).

The key factor that enables this deferral of responsibility is the power vacuum due to the top-down capacity to control individual actions. Where technology is able to eliminate the ability to control individual actions (e.g. the 3D printer example upthread), the government has no malicious function (government could still try to compete with private industry to provide services more efficiently as Jessica Boxer astutely pointed out). I had expounded upthread as follows.

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I add to Michael Hipp’s points (i.e. political action does not adequately empower individual choice and representation), that the power vacuum is only resolved in favor of (all) the individuals where technology exists to empower the individuals to route around top-down control. Political action can purport to empower certain groups, maybe even the majority, but this is obfuscated [in] mutual self-destruction, e.g. see my prior post. Is the current regulatory capture of the state by the banks not sufficient evidence that the individual is not protected from the power vacuum?

Winter pointed out upthread that government exists where it can enforce a (partial) monopoly on force, and I noted it can only do so where that force can generate funding to sustain the force against and "free" gifts (misallocative self-destruction) for its constituency.

The government hides its funding in our short-term myopia on the ramifications of debt, taxes, and social promises (unfunded liabilities). In short, the government can over promise an unrealistic nirvana (which the masses readily embrace) and then has the power to make us pay for the misallocation of resources.

I have been making the point to a group who desires to make an anarcho-currency (I named it "SocialistCoin") designed to redistributes capital to prevent it from concentrating, that the power vacuum does not derive from the fiat (fractional reserve) money system (and thus can't be eliminated by eliminating fiat or capital concentration in a currency); rather this is just one of the means of obscuring the theft that arises from the fundamental power vacuum. I also made the point that redistributing capital from producers to non-producers destroys the capital, analogous to that we can't redistribute an auto mechanic's tools to a nurse and expect them to be utilized.

Thus the conclusion is that the only changes that improve the condition of mankind are technologies that enable individuals to be free from top-down control.

These eliminate facets of the power vacuum (people have to tolerate or able to route around their disagreement), thus improving the annealing (optimization) of the economy to local opportunities and generating more prosperity for all. I posit that all sustained prosperity (gains in standard-of-living) has been due to such individual-freedom enabling technologies, e.g. the automobile, the telephone, the computer, the coming 3D printer, open source, etc..

Thus the main technological benefit of anarcho-currencies is the elimination of top-down control over the movement of capital so that producers are not harmed by coming implosion of global socialism, i.e. the anonymity and the lack of centralized control (e.g. over debasement, acquisition, and transfer). Thus the relationship between anti-money laundering laws and an anarcho-currency is important.

And this ties into the theoretical existance of a 78 year (3 x 26 maturity generations) technology disruption cycle I have mentioned numerous times, where the socialism incentivizes the masses to not adjust to technological shift, wherein the masses are being funded by government and debt to continue chasing opportunities in antiquated technological skills and jobs.

All those who want a gold standard or to pull a French Revolution on the heads of banksters, are not even close to recognizing what drives prosperity for the masses.

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June 03, 2013, 06:32:56 PM
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Proof-of-Consensus:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189239.msg2360602#msg2360602

Proof-of-hard drive space is subset case of Proof-of-Consensus, and it also supports minting which Proof-of-share does not.

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June 04, 2013, 05:18:22 AM
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51% Rule of Decentralized Agreement

Note that Proof-of-Consensus is subject to 51% attack same as Bitcoin is. This does not eliminate it as an alternative design. At least we see that 51% attack is always possible in any decentralized currency. It is a fundamental.

In any decentralized P2P system any consensus fork of agreement is controllable by controlling 51% of the peers.

It must be this way, else there is no way to eliminate minority opinions (minority forks of agreement).

So what is money? Money is what 51+% of the people agree that it is. Gold is an exception.

The challenge in designing a decentralized money is that the masses can be fooled by cartels into supporting detrimental activities (which may even be obscured from and/or only indirectly harm the 51%).

Physical gold (and silver) is a unique form of money because it can't be cartelized, and even if the masses agree to outlaw gold as anonymous money, some people will still accept anonymously. This is due to the unique properties of the precious metals:

* high value per mass & volume due to natural rarity
* fungible
* durable and divisible
* stable supply
* anonymous (can't be permanently marked)

Is there any other form of money that is similar to gold, yet can be transmitted digitally?

No. I have thought about modules of open source software in trade, yet these are not fungible, and at least probably not divisible. The knowledge is unique and in the main module coder's mind.

The only truly decentralized money is gold. There will never be an alternative. Every decentralized currency design will be controlled by the 51% eventually.

PERIOD. Don't waste my time with oxymoronic nonsense about redistributing money to avoid socializing money. Hahaha.

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June 04, 2013, 06:45:22 AM
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> (e) anything more to say about Wile E. Coyote spinning his legs off the
cliff?

Japan must export deflation immediately:

http://www.mauldineconomics.com/frontlinethoughts/central-bankers-gone-wild

We are headed over the cliff into the global sovereign debt big bang. Japan and southern Europe first, with the USA in a dead-cat bounce due to capital fleeing those two. This flow of capital into the dollar is creating a speculative frenzy to rush out of gold into dollar investments to capture the short-term gains. This capital will come rushing back into gold as the big bang ensues in 2014/5.

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All decentralized currencies are subject to 51% attack, i.e.will be eventually top-down controlled due to the power vacuum that enables socialism:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189239.msg2365101#msg2365101

The decentralized currencies (can not sustain decentralized and thus) are not individual freedom technologies. Contrast against real freedom technologies such as 3D printing, personal computing, and open source.

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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/26/us-iron-curtain-is-coming-in-new-immigration-bill-for-all-americans/
http://www.nestmann.com/homelanders-to-u-s-expatriates-dont-come-back-ever/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/18/g8-going-to-hunt-down-all-capital/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/18/icij-has-done-far-more-damage-to-the-world-economy-that-anyone-realized/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/15/united-stasi-of-america/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/15/precious-metals-remain-under-attack-by-governments/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/14/the-collapse-in-liquidity-rising-volatility/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/13/german-high-court-introducing-more-euro-chaos/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/12/city-dwellers-at-greatest-risk/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/12/snowdens-rude-awakening-usa-does-control-most-of-the-world/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/12/greesce-shuts-down-tv-new/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/11/capitalism-or-marxism-that-is-the-question/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/11/mailing-cash-is-prohibited-in-usa-france-bars-even-gold/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/11/congress-wants-snowdens-head-not-the-nsa/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/11/the-future-of-the-world-economy-les-miserables/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/11/paranoid-or-conservative/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/10/capitol-hill/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/10/france-declares-victory-over-entire-eurozone-crisis/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/09/nsa-surveillance/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/08/why-the-survelience-is-very-dangerous/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/08/political-trivia-test-can-you-pass-it/ (Hillary Clinton's plans for confiscation)
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/07/unemployment-benefits-cut-part-of-deflation/ (the official rate will go to 25-30%, real rate much higher perhaps)
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/06/imf-admits-it-made-a-mistake-with-greece/ (Only Julius Caesar understood how to fix a debt crisis)
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/06/nsa-tapping-into-internet-directly/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/06/is-paranoid-becoming-normal/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/05/this-no-time-to-quit-a-job-us-youth-unemployment-hits-16-2/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/04/search-warrants-not-necessary-to-take-you-dna/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/04/the-growing-shadow-economy-politicians-just-dont-get-it/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/04/1984-is-here-2014/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/03/seniors-are-the-greediest-generation/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/02/rising-tide-of-civil-unrest/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/02/the-real-conspiracy/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/01/11999/ (Primary Dealers – the Truth About Their Iron Grip)
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/05/31/freedom-to-travel-in-europe-shutting-down/
http://www.nestmann.com/cell-tracking/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/05/15/europe-plans-the-confiscation-of-depositor-assets/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/19/germany-wants-global-taxation-cooperation/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/19/the-pension-crisis-interest-rate-nightmare/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/19/inflation-v-deflation/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/18/europe-considering-mandatory-15-of-wages-to-be-taken-for-pensions/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/17/the-next-seizure-coming-u-s-consumer-financial-protection-bureau/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/17/will-pension-funds-be-the-target-after-2016-to-seize-for-our-protection/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/16/europe-to-begin-capital-controls-soon/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/13/france-is-pushing-for-tax-evasion-to-be-top-eu-priority-hitler-returns/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/04/12/government-pensions-will-cost-2500-per-household-climbing/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/03/29/cyprus-confiscation-of-assets-is-global-plan/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/03/28/electronic-money/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/03/27/are-we-head-to-a-mad-max-scenario/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/03/25/sovereign-debt-crisis-conference-2/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/02/26/visit-italy-they-seize-your-jewelry/ ("Diego Maradona, the Argentine soccer star...")
http://www.nestmann.com/yes-you-are-a-criminalyou-just-dont-know-it-yet-2/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate (USA an order-of-magnitude higher)
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4934&cpage=1#comment-400351 (suburbs as peaceful as Switzerland, Americans are culturally less law abiding & some violent big cities)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate (with 93% conviction rate from US Dept or Justice, 99%  in NY Fed courts according to Armstrong)
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4927&cpage=1#comment-399831 (Why should it happen to Denmark?)
http://www.nestmann.com/passport-denials-long-a-feature-of-u-s-foreign-policy/
http://www.nestmann.com/hungary-now-imposes-tax-on-non-resident-citizens/

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June 05, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
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If you read my technical thesis in the OP (opening post), then realize that the alleged takeover by corporations will occur subtly over a decade or two.

You will be lulled to sleep. Then once it is too late, they can start turning off the ability for dissidants to transact. By that time, probably all payments will be digital, even in the local market using your mobile phone (which by that time may be wearable).

Thus you won't eat if the corporate-fascist government apparatus doesn't like your behavior (politics, open source projects, etc).

This is the case also today to some degree...
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June 05, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
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Satoshi

Satashi

Satash

Satan

He's right!  It is diabolical!
Wow so many steps to find the resemblance! It takes way fewer for me in other places so if Satoshi is devil reincarnation than it is some kind of distant relative Smiley

eg.
IMF = satan
ECB = satan
banksters = satan
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226033

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