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September 04, 2016, 08:18:03 AM
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Not much changing except that you neither give negative or positive trust anymore.

Just a simple database of failed or accomplished trades.
It would fight a lot of issues regarding DT.

It looks like everyone is getting butthurt, it is so weird to see DT members act as 8 year old kids.
Just both remove the feedback, I am sure those 'I hope Lutpin will kill himself' isn't really meant as u guys think. OgNasty is just tired of being accused for promoting a scam, I am not saying it was Lutpin.

Both quit your childish behaviour and get over it.

Should just remove the trust system and make a database of trades.
Users can then check for them self if someone is trustworthy or not.
The trust system right now with account farmers/buyers/sellers and trust farming/trading/buying/selling just doesn't do anything anymore.
It is pretty much worthless.


It has no point, the whole trust system is shit.
Even the DT people can not behave, so u can come up with the best system, but yes there are always people breaking it. Every system/concept has it pros and cons. The trust system is just too easy to abuse for DT members and neutral trusted can't do anything about it since DT members (mostly) back each other.

In this case there is a war between DT, this is new to me.

It happened more then once and additionally there were also cases of DT members scamming thousands of btc in the past - some of them still active on this forum.

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September 04, 2016, 08:26:46 AM
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Giving either positive or negative trust works in the other forums , however .. and unlike the other forums, Bitcointalk doesn't ban multiple accounts and allow the use of proxies and VPNs & don't moderate scams  as well which means anyone could create multiple accounts and leave feedback etc... I prefer the current system (even If it's not that good) than the one you are suggesting as trust farming will be much worst.
If you have any evidence about a DT user abusing the system then you simply open a scam accusation and the other DT users will take from there, as simple as that.

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September 04, 2016, 08:58:52 AM
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I doubt that your suggestion would solve a lot of issues regarding the current trust system. In fact, there I think that it would cause a lot more issues. There are a lot of things that are considered untrustworthy in this place. You would effectively take away the option to mark such people. If the system goes down this path, I can see a lot more threads about personal disputes popping up.

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September 04, 2016, 09:02:52 AM
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Thinking about it again you two are probably correct because there is no good way to verify the authenticity of the trades.

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September 04, 2016, 09:04:09 AM
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Thinking about it again you two are probably correct because there is no good way to verify the authenticity of the trades.
It's really hard to find a better replacement for this system. I'm pretty sure theymos would welcome the change (if it truly was better). It's also going to be impossible to satisfy everyone with any kind of revamp.

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September 04, 2016, 06:56:58 PM
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We don't have a trade system currently, it is a trust system. Many feedbacks are not the direct result of trades, but are rather a result of observations of one behavior.

With a DB of all trades, it would be very difficult to warn others about clear scam attempts, about behavior consistent with how a scammer typically behaves, among other things that the current implementation allows. It would also make it much more difficult to detect both trust farming and fake trades.

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September 04, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
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I think of DT as a sort of 'real life' implication to the forum.

'That guy looks sketchy as hell'

That's a feeling someone has. If it's based on something in real life like 'He sells cocaine to high school kids and was in jail for 4 years' then he has that reputation.

The only way to do that on a forum would be to add some sort of negative trust to their profile.
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