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September 04, 2016, 09:53:17 AM
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rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
noun: racism

    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
        prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
        "a program to combat racism"
        synonyms:   racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
        "Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

Ok so hear me out before serving me your obligatory Politically correct Social justice warrior ranting.

Lets think carefully here for a minute..
How do you quantify what is better ?
Well with life i would have to look at evolution in humans & animals.
In the animal kingdom the poor quality ones are weeded out of existence and vanish forever.
So think about humans now..
What would make a better human ?
Well then we need to define better now or better in the future etc.
Lets say there is a lot of human traits that would lend well to life on Earth for us NOW.
Then.. compare that to life on Earth in a million years or even on other planets.

Specifics..
Take the skin color of blacks vs whites.
Black pigment in the skin would be better for humans now on Earth.
But may be less favorable to white skin on the planet mars in lower light conditions.

What do we define as "better" ?
Simply really.. evolution speaks loud & clear on this.
For example i seen a documentary a couple years ago that genetically MEN will become extinct.
Humanity is ACTUALLY changing over time !

I see the matter of racism to be just yet another formulaic cliched knee jerk response to the worlds idiot population that lack intelligence.. the type that go online and get all outraged and act like PC SJW's and whine up a storm all the time.

I would of course not advocate or suggest there is anything good about treating someone unfairly.
That is not what calculating and quantifying the data is about.
Around the world people hear an interpretation of what is said always.. rarely what is ACTUALLY said.
This just does not apply to the issue of racism but everything.. because everyone is fucking dumb.

Like it or not everything imaginable HAS to be quantified and measured and compared.
Who decides what is better ?
Humans engineered for life on Earth now ? Or on Mars in a million years ?
I am not saying am i ?
I am leaving that to all of you to decide..

Nor would i claim one race is better than the other.
But depending on where you move the goal posts there may in fact be a better race.

Look carefully at the synonyms above on the word racism people..
Discrimination for example ?
Well duh fuckers of course i do NOT support discrimination !
That is not what i am talking about.

What is the problem with racism ?
Read the definition.. the first word is "the belief"
Why is my belief bad ?
As long as i do not exercise discrimination then so what ?

The above definition says " to distinguish"
Well then.. Explain to me people why all things can be measured and compared .. except humans.
When we measure which wild cat is faster the Jaguar or Cheetah it's fine.
When we measure which Bee is more dangerous it's fine.
When we measure which Mammal is smart the Dolphin or the Bull-Shark it's fine.
When we measure which monkey is better at doing sign language it's fine.
When we measure which type of Tomato plant gives us high yields it's fine.
When we measure which Planet is more habitable it's fine..

But the second we get to the HUMANS ..alarm bells start going off.
And it's not the analysis so much that triggers people it's the fear of potential discrimination etc.
It's not what *IS* that is the problem it's the unrelated assumptions and jumping to conclusion associated with it.

Racism is fine.. treating people badly is not.
RACISM does NOT mean TREATING people badly.
There is other terms for that such as discrimination..

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September 04, 2016, 10:01:09 AM
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Racism:the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

I believe that the term you specifically mean is called 'Taxonomy' - the branch of science concerned with classification, especially of organisms; the classification of something, especially organisms.

It is true that we can classify people based on their colour, since we already classify them on religion, country, age, language, "Knowledge", profession, money etc.

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What do we define as "better" ?

A comparison is required with a fixed standard of unit to declare something better than another.
What did you choose as a method of comparison? Skin tone? It's just excess melanin that makes sun-kissed people dark while others fair.
There is no harm in that. I believe it is the social media that makes people go too far with people's origin and traditions.

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September 04, 2016, 01:37:44 PM
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The customs of China might not be acceptable in most of America. It's the people who wouldn't accept the customs. Consider the Yulin Dog Meat Festival. There are probably some American customs that would disgust the Chinese.

While these are cultural differences, they are built into society. They are racial differences as well.

Keep the races separate until such a time - say a couple thousand years - that the customs can be brought together.

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September 04, 2016, 06:44:28 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2016, 05:16:40 AM by Spoetnik
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Interesting point about "customs" those are some glaring differences.

But i meant "racism" as i quoted the definition from Google.
I think the problem is people make up their own meaning for words.

And i never said being black was bad.. on the contrary i think it's technical advantage.
I am super white and will get beat down by the sun fast while others do not.
Skin color was an evolutionary advantage created by natural selection.
History teaches us that when we left Africa and some went North ..they went white.
While the others who were under attack from the sun developed a natural defense.

Which race of humans would be better ?
I guess asking is horrible crime that will get you branded "racist"
Why not compare them ?

I am not saying lets brand people as Pink, Green and Purple..
Then lets treat the Green people badly.
Sometimes people get so wound up with being Politically correct etc they fail to respect cultural differences.
Take the Native Indian of North America..
I think it's a good idea to acknowledge their differences and related history. (vs pretending no difference exists)
Then afford them as much right to celebrate those differences as they wish.

But we *could* ask the question which sub-race of humans is better.
DO you all have a favorite Ice Cream flavor ?
When looking for a mate to have sex with do you have a preference in skin color ?
Are some statically provably better at things such as Math or simply working harder for less ?

It seems like a pathetic politically correct response to call out the differences and put them on the table.
Pointing it out is what you all on the internet consider racism.
It's what you all defined it as.. not me !

If i go and post on some web site that there are differences between back & white people i will swiftly be branded as a racist person.. even if i demand that they sit in the front of the bus of the bus (affirmative action ?)

If you like Chocolate flavor Ice Cream the best i will safely bet you are racist too.
Humans are by design the way we are via evolution.
A key aspect is pattern recognition and risk assessment.
These are pretty much a genetic evolutionary trait.

We have been branched off into different evolved groups.
You all can decide what is better i just say consider the option of Better "NOW" or Better "Later"
Black people on Mars may one day suffer from seasonal affective disorder while Whites do not.
(a health problem from not getting enough sun light)

Think about it people.. are YOU racist REALLY ?

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September 04, 2016, 08:19:04 PM
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People within their own race are so different than one another. I value intelligence. Half of society has an IQ above 100, the other half has an IQ under 100. The important thing is that they are all capable of feeling pain. To me a racist would be someone who gets pleasure for seeing someone in pain, a person that they don't know, simply because they are not the same color as themselves. That person thinks they are superior, more deserving of life, but in reality deep down they are just criminal like.
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September 05, 2016, 02:14:49 AM
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The key point i am trying to drive home here is the definition and typical usage of the term.

All too often we see users on the internet using words inaccurately.
The word Troll to me comes to mind.
Possibly my very first few comments here were on that issue.
The fact that the word is thrown around even when it does not apply.

Or when people in Crypto cry "FUD"
They in the Crypto-Scene redefined what the word means ..or they are still trying to anyway.
It means, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
They chant this term FUD as though it is not applicable to the circumstances.
When in fact it is very much warranted.

Those are just a couple examples of the majority of people out there who spout off bullshit 24/7.
It's rooted in a lack of thinking for yourself (stupidity)
And a lack of what the English words actually mean..

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The key point i am trying to drive home here is the definition and typical usage of the term.

All too often we see users on the internet using words inaccurately.
The word Troll to me comes to mind.
Possibly my very first few comments here were on that issue.
The fact that the word is thrown around even when it does not apply.

Or when people in Crypto cry "FUD"
They in the Crypto-Scene redefined what the word means ..or they are still trying to anyway.
It means, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
They chant this term FUD as though it is not applicable to the circumstances.
When in fact it is very much warranted.

Those are just a couple examples of the majority of people out there who spout off bullshit 24/7.
It's rooted in a lack of thinking for yourself (stupidity)
And a lack of what the English words actually mean..

Well, I thought I wanted to be racist. Now I am not so sure.     Grin

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September 05, 2016, 05:55:44 AM
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The wrong part of racism is the definition of a race.
That's why biologists no longer use this word, it's a useless and shitty one. You can't define a race in humanity that's as simple as that.

No moral judgement here, simple scientific point of view. Try to define any kind of race and you'll see you fail ^^
Or that your definition of race concerns maybe 3 humans in the world xD

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September 05, 2016, 06:11:47 AM
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We're all just humans that's been created by God. We've been created equal and God didn't even said that there would be a "Racism" thingy. For me we should all treat ourselves equally to have peace on this raging world because of war. That's why I'm against racism. It's just pure nonsense to have that kind of tradition or attitude.

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September 05, 2016, 07:39:48 AM
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Power does not exist without awareness.

Self-awareness is born from disharmony between the human mind and human body.
Being aware of his own body, it is impossible for man not compare himself to things in the world around him that he perceives as separate from himself.
Thus self-awareness leads to awareness.

Man sees a bear and notices that his body is different from the bear's but no further connections are made. Bear attacks man, man fights fearlessly but is quickly overwhelmed. Man barely manages to escape with his life.
Man reflects on his encounter with the bear and realizes that what he had originally assessed as a mere difference in appearance actually runs deeper than that. Man learns that bigger is 'more'.
Two things are born at the same time.
Fear and power.
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September 05, 2016, 08:42:42 AM
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i was brought up to believe racism meant hating others because of the colour of their skin. nowadays marxists have twisted our understanding of the term to include everyone holding the belief that cultural and national differences exist and that race is inextricably bound up in those differences. according to our rulers if you believe we should have countries and borders there is nothing separating you from the evil nazis hiding out in the north pole who want to kill another 60 billion jews in invisible gas chambers.

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