Trade simulator 2.0 [Fully automated paper trade competition]

[Afrikoin]

I would by far prefer more refined trading: Stop orders, and position sizing.

I think this is more about trading than about knowing which alt to pick.

Maybe restart the game after the summer with some improvements?

sure. stop orders make sense

right now you can place limit orders

some leveraged margin trading would be a great addition to. but keep it simple 3, 5, 10 X

but i still think adding *some* alts will make the game better

i guess i also have a bias b/c the game will motivate me to watch alts

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[Afrikoin]

yeah


there should be some sort of penalty for pure holders.



So i was trying to trade the sell off and buy the bounce, but my account says i am -100. not sure what happened.

im not sure whether my trade got executed


I also suggest we add altcoins in the mix, or is this against forum rules? I would like to trade a portfolio

will also help keep track of alts. just a suggestion

Shit what did you do? This happened in testing before release, and we had it fixed (or so we thought) I will take a look soon and if there are no objections, I will roll back your single last trade. I would only do this in the case of a clear glitch. Something with ajax is what I suspect.
Can you give me more details? where you hitting the trade button quickly or did the price show something odd?

I would by far prefer more refined trading: Stop orders, and position sizing.

I think this is more about trading than about knowing which alt to pick.

Maybe restart the game after the summer with some improvements?

I do plan to restart. I wanted to get some more features on it first and thoroughly tested, then get an eventual tournament going. BTC prizes? We'll see.
I've just been so busy lately, I can barely see straight.

thanks! i issue was sorted out

im back in the game

[Gillette]

I would by far prefer more refined trading: Stop orders, and position sizing.

I think this is more about trading than about knowing which alt to pick.

Maybe restart the game after the summer with some improvements?

sure. stop orders make sense

right now you can place limit orders

some leveraged margin trading would be a great addition to. but keep it simple 3, 5, 10 X

but i still think adding *some* alts will make the game better

i guess i also have a bias b/c the game will motivate me to watch alts

Watch BLOCK token Africoin if you really want to watch a real project

[Chainsaw]

Things should get really interesting, with all this volatility!

[Pruden]

Looks like I have the same -100 bug. For a minute I saw a dozen other traders with -100 (including Afrikoin), now it's just me. 

[secousa]

Looks like I have the same -100 bug. For a minute I saw a dozen other traders with -100 (including Afrikoin), now it's just me. 

Hey - I just rolled back your trade to your previous one. We're looking into this and trying to find the root cause of the issue, bear with us please. For now you can continue with the trade you were trying to perform

[RyNinDaCleM]

Looks like I have the same -100 bug. For a minute I saw a dozen other traders with -100 (including Afrikoin), now it's just me.  

Hey - I just rolled back your trade to your previous one. We're looking into this and trying to find the root cause of the issue, bear with us please. For now you can continue with the trade you were trying to perform

At the time it showed anyone with a btc balance as -100% p/l because the coindesk api was reporting a price of 0.00. I am going to look into devising our own index price internally so that this problem goes away permanently. We will continue with a testing period before we do a reset of the scoreboard. I want this to be perfect, and I want people to remain interested in the game, so I want these kinds of things fixed. Priority one is getting the issues fixed, then roll out new features that are at least independent of this particular issue.

edit:
if you see the price at 0.00, DO NOT MAKE A TRADE. It WILL result in a complete loss. Wait a minute, and refresh and all should be back to normal.

[secousa]

Looks like I have the same -100 bug. For a minute I saw a dozen other traders with -100 (including Afrikoin), now it's just me. 

Hey - I just rolled back your trade to your previous one. We're looking into this and trying to find the root cause of the issue, bear with us please. For now you can continue with the trade you were trying to perform

At the time it showed anyone with a btc balance as -100% p/l because the coindesk api was reporting a price of 0.00. I am going to look into devising our own index price internally so that this problem goes away permanently. We will continue with a testing period before we do a reset of the scoreboard. I want this to be perfect, and I want people to remain interested in the game, so I want these kinds of things fixed. Priority one is getting the issues fixed, then roll out new features that are at least independent of this particular issue.

I just pushed a patch to hold us over until that's done. I hope that this solves the problem short term. Basically, its a check to see if a price of 0.00 was returned by coindesk, and if so, don't update the price. It's not the best solution (since price could have changed during that time, but coindesk didn't return the right data back) but it should prevent these nasty -100 bugs.

If anyone encounters this issue after this post, please let us know via here or PM (PM gets a bit faster reply, in case we're not actively on the forum)

[Afrikoin]

hi guys!

game is going well

was down to 13, but ive managed to claw back up to 3rd.

Kramerc, you are next! 

lol! but  i have like 250 trades

anyway, ive noticed there is a lag between when the price moves on exchanges and when the index reflects a drop or rise

so for example, i use bitcoinwisdom charts, bitstamp. when i expect a drop on bitstamp, i wait for it to happen on bitstamp, then use the window lag to sell on the simulator.
i get to sell at the top (slight advantage) and then price falls some seconds/minute after bitstamp dropped.

same when price is going up.

Its not much of an advantage, just though i should share


i guess you already know the index is about 30$ above bitstamp prices. Im curious how the coindesk index is weighted. it is about $30/$35 higher than bitstamp.

a feature i would like is the option of margin trading with fee, just to add a twist.

also the option of multiple buy/sell limits

eg i want to sell at $2650 and buy back at $1900 before i bedtime. if i could set these 2, i could sell a top and catch a bottom at once.


Again, thank you team for the game! having fun making paper paper paper!

[RyNinDaCleM]

hi guys!

game is going well

was down to 13, but ive managed to claw back up to 3rd.

Kramerc, you are next! 

lol! but  i have like 250 trades

anyway, ive noticed there is a lag between when the price moves on exchanges and when the index reflects a drop or rise

so for example, i use bitcoinwisdom charts, bitstamp. when i expect a drop on bitstamp, i wait for it to happen on bitstamp, then use the window lag to sell on the simulator.
i get to sell at the top (slight advantage) and then price falls some seconds/minute after bitstamp dropped.

same when price is going up.

Its not much of an advantage, just though i should share


i guess you already know the index is about 30$ above bitstamp prices. Im curious how the coindesk index is weighted. it is about $30/$35 higher than bitstamp.

a feature i would like is the option of margin trading with fee, just to add a twist.

also the option of multiple buy/sell limits

eg i want to sell at $2650 and buy back at $1900 before i bedtime. if i could set these 2, i could sell a top and catch a bottom at once.


Again, thank you team for the game! having fun making paper paper paper!

The index both, updates once every minute and combines all leading exchanges by some volume weighted algo, so at times, it doesn't even move when exchanges do. The lag is likely due to a higher weighted exchange lagging behind stamp at times. That is another reason to experiment with our own custom index in the future. Maybe even with a real-time price change.

Margin is on the todo list, as well as multiple orders. However,  the ability to set orders with not-yet-cleared funds is unique to crypto exchanges and even that isn't allowed anymore on any exchanges I use. I used to do it on gox back in the day. It is called "free riding" in stock market trading and is a giant no-no. That's not to say never, to some variant of oco that allows an order to be placed after a conditional order is executed. We'll have to see how to implement something like that.

Glad you enjoy it!

[sgbett]

Gambling on a huge swing down below 2k. Wish me luck If it pays off I take top spot :p

[sgbett]

Pfft I bottled it and bought back in early, should have the courage of my convictions

[Pruden]

Am I the only one still playing?

[freedomno1]

Bah I am going to get smoked well the game still works and the rally may begin shortly
Anyone up for a round ha-ha the automated trading API is still working ^^
Also tssk I wish it imported my old game would be smoking it so hard XD

[RyNinDaCleM]

So, does anyone still play this?
Should we reset the scores for a new season?

[Tzupy]

So, does anyone still play this?
Should we reset the scores for a new season?

The current (and most of the time) leader, BtcHolder, did some trading a couple of days ago. I think he deserves to be proclaimed winner.
What is interesting is that he was the only one who outperformed buy-and-hold, although by only ~15%.
This game has been going on for 34 months. If a new game season will start, and the market will turn bearish, I'll probably do OK. 

[Tzupy]

@RyNinDaCleM: the game was unavailable for about a week, and the domain looked to be for sale.
Is it safe to use anymore? I mean, if you sold it, the buyer could have added some shady code...

[secousa]

@RyNinDaCleM: the game was unavailable for about a week, and the domain looked to be for sale.
Is it safe to use anymore? I mean, if you sold it, the buyer could have added some shady code...

It wasn't sold, its still operating on the original host (source: I've been hosting RyN's work). Looks like the registration lapsed for a short while.

[Wind_FURY]

So, does anyone still play this?
Should we reset the scores for a new season?

Do you know micgoossens? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067333

I believe that you should talk to him, and organize a trading competition through your site.