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September 12, 2016, 07:00:49 AM
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It doesn't matter how big your Wallet is, or how much you bet, your odds are always the same.
Yes, but the odds are really bad. For color betting/number betting, the chance to win is 48.27586207%, to double your money. That equates to a 3.44% house edge, much higher than what you would find at other social games (notably bustabit and betking), and other roulette games have a lower edge as well, like crypto-games.net. You should really consider lowering it, since the bitcoin gambling community is more used to lower edges, compared to CS:GO sites (assumption based on the script)

I think it is probably worse if you land on green you lose and have 1/15 odds every time that it will happen every game. Better to pick green for best odds. Its like mini roulette . But let us see what the players think.

I could be wrong but my calculations about bitdouble odds are different from DarkStar_ ones and show house edge is even higher than his/her one and it is at 6.67% ( if rounded at 2 decimals only otherwise 0.0666666666...).


Also, answering @Ryan Dugan,  betting on green rather than red/black or even/odd doesn't affect at all that 6.67% house edge.
Yeh, maybe it's nice to give a 50% refund on green for red/black? (so bet red: on red 2x, on green 0.5x, on black 0x)

And a 7.5x payout on green +50% refund on black/red? (so bet green: on red 0.5x, on green 7.5x, on black 0.5x) Or just a 14.5x payout Tongue

Would make the HE half (=3.33%) of current HE (=6.67%) - still worse than all dice sites (0.5 - 2%), but better than some casino/slot sites (1 - 6%)

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September 12, 2016, 07:07:57 AM
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Chat limit on Bitdouble is only 60 characters limit? Isn't that a bit too low to be considered a chat? And from what Admin  said it will increase with your progress with higher VIP level.
But I think that so basic functionality should be a standard and not something that can be upgraded. It is not faucet after all.

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September 18, 2016, 11:34:33 AM
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We are hiring a community manager, check it out if you are interested:


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Wow the website looks good and the chat room avatar is cool, try introducing a faucet for people to test out the site, it will be better Cheesy

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September 18, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
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Wow the website looks good and the chat room avatar is cool, try introducing a faucet for people to test out the site, it will be better Cheesy

The faucet will be launched today!

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September 18, 2016, 01:06:39 PM
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The faucet is now live!!!!

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September 18, 2016, 06:06:01 PM
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The faucet is now live!!!!

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Very generous faucet 0.1mBTC, most sites offer up to 2000 satoshi max.

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September 19, 2016, 12:42:34 AM
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From 1 mBtc Bonus down to 10K Satoshi. Hahaha. Maybe this is because of too many email spammers, but its hard to withdraw the bonus because the minimum withdrawal is 10 mbtc, Its hard to turn your 10K satoshi or even 1 mbtc to 10 mbtc.

I've turned 0.1mBTC registration bonus to 10mBTC and withdrawn instantly.
Game is easy to play and nicely designed.
FAQ page is very well documented.

So you saying you increased your btc by 100 fold ? I'm sorry but I don't believe you. It is extremely difficult just to wage through 100 fold never mind make 100fold. You must of waged through a few entire btc or more to do that. -_-

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September 19, 2016, 01:33:51 AM
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From 1 mBtc Bonus down to 10K Satoshi. Hahaha. Maybe this is because of too many email spammers, but its hard to withdraw the bonus because the minimum withdrawal is 10 mbtc, Its hard to turn your 10K satoshi or even 1 mbtc to 10 mbtc.

I've turned 0.1mBTC registration bonus to 10mBTC and withdrawn instantly.
Game is easy to play and nicely designed.
FAQ page is very well documented.

So you saying you increased your btc by 100 fold ? I'm sorry but I don't believe you. It is extremely difficult just to wage through 100 fold never mind make 100fold. You must of waged through a few entire btc or more to do that. -_-


I won x14 on my very first bet and won by betting on color 3 times in a row.

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September 19, 2016, 03:18:03 AM
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The faucet is now live!!!!

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Nice to see faucet now available and I also see faucet is 0.1mbtc that much but i think that is suitable with min withdraw amount is 10mbtc..anyways thanks for faucet and let me try my luck from faucet before make some deposit Cool

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September 19, 2016, 03:52:06 AM
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From 1 mBtc Bonus down to 10K Satoshi. Hahaha. Maybe this is because of too many email spammers, but its hard to withdraw the bonus because the minimum withdrawal is 10 mbtc, Its hard to turn your 10K satoshi or even 1 mbtc to 10 mbtc.

I've turned 0.1mBTC registration bonus to 10mBTC and withdrawn instantly.
Game is easy to play and nicely designed.
FAQ page is very well documented.

So you saying you increased your btc by 100 fold ? I'm sorry but I don't believe you. It is extremely difficult just to wage through 100 fold never mind make 100fold. You must of waged through a few entire btc or more to do that. -_-


Indeed it is diffucult but it is still possible, lucky person may increased their starting balance up to 100x or even more.

I won x14 on my very first bet and won by betting on color 3 times in a row.

So do you always all in on those 4bets and win all of it? You must be luckiest person of the day. Congrats for it

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September 19, 2016, 04:59:04 PM
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This site is funny, I deposit 10 mBTC to test out the site, won about 3.7 mBTC adding up to total of 13.7 mBTC, site minimum withdrawal is 10 mBTC and I have 13.7 mBTC

But site doesn't let me withdraw.



Will wait for admin to get back to me in chatroom

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September 19, 2016, 05:02:13 PM
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This site is funny, I deposit 10 mBTC to test out the site, won about 3.7 mBTC adding up to total of 13.7 mBTC, site minimum withdrawal is 10 mBTC and I have 13.7 mBTC

But site doesn't let me withdraw.



Will wait for admin to get back to me in chatroom
Haha i too had this one. When trying for deposit then must got profit for possible. Your account must win more than it so you can withdrawal money. if you have deposit you can't pullback yours money xD

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Doesn't that make the site looks scam? when players can't withdraw the amount they win? ..................... nothing to comment

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September 19, 2016, 06:16:25 PM
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This site is funny, I deposit 10 mBTC to test out the site, won about 3.7 mBTC adding up to total of 13.7 mBTC, site minimum withdrawal is 10 mBTC and I have 13.7 mBTC

But site doesn't let me withdraw.



Will wait for admin to get back to me in chatroom

Seems that there is a hidden term on withdrawal. As I read from some previous posts about their first giveaway 10mbtc, players need to wager 1x of it before withdraw. Perhaps this is what happened with you, the site forget to remove the "rollover" thing that makes you unable to withdraw your money before you wager your deposited amount 1x.
But if it is their own rules that players need to wager their deposited money before withdraw, so it is not good for us to deposit and play in this site. Lets see what they say about this issue.

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September 19, 2016, 06:42:14 PM
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Yes, I never receive the 10 mBTC bonus, so I think I should not be penalize to wager the amount of my deposit, and I think it is kind of strange if players need to wager x1 the amount they deposit

Some players might think they have won enough and want to withdraw but can't withdraw with this term and condition to wager x1 the deposit

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September 19, 2016, 08:37:58 PM
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This site is funny, I deposit 10 mBTC to test out the site, won about 3.7 mBTC adding up to total of 13.7 mBTC, site minimum withdrawal is 10 mBTC and I have 13.7 mBTC

But site doesn't let me withdraw.



Will wait for admin to get back to me in chatroom

I experienced the same situation in a FIAT money based pokerroom/casino: their T & C state you have to wager your deposit once before being able to withdraw it, even if you don't receive any bonus related to that deposit, because they claim that :
" The deposit should be used for the game. The deposit for the storing and/or transferring money online and/or for the immediate withdrawal is forbidden by the rules of our website. Thus, xxxxxxx prevents using the site as a tool for money laundering or fraud."

Didn't read Bitdouble ToS so don't know if they practice the same policy or it's just a bug and they confused you 10 mBTC with the free 10mBTC they were issuing until some days ago.

Curious to know the answer tough.

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With all this going on then a proper reply from OP is relevant at this point as its going to shed light on the grey areas concerning the sites and also a deep understanding of the terms is equally important because if its there already, you accepted to it before playing...

Yes, I never receive the 10 mBTC bonus, so I think I should not be penalize to wager the amount of my deposit, and I think it is kind of strange if players need to wager x1 the amount they deposit

Some players might think they have won enough and want to withdraw but can't withdraw with this term and condition to wager x1 the deposit




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September 20, 2016, 07:23:14 AM
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With all this going on then a proper reply from OP is relevant at this point as its going to shed light on the grey areas concerning the sites and also a deep understanding of the terms is equally important because if its there already, you accepted to it before playing...

Yes, I never receive the 10 mBTC bonus, so I think I should not be penalize to wager the amount of my deposit, and I think it is kind of strange if players need to wager x1 the amount they deposit

Some players might think they have won enough and want to withdraw but can't withdraw with this term and condition to wager x1 the deposit



It is only shown on the faq page but with no clear information on how much wagered need to be done before player able to withdraw full amount. It should be more clear and should be written in a bold page, or better add this info on the deposit page instead of here :

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No, and to prevent this, every deposit needs to be wagered before it can be withdrawn again.



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No, and to prevent this, every deposit needs to be wagered before it can be withdrawn again.


Well, it explains it all quite clearly in my opinion.

The statement "every deposit needs to be wagered before it can be withdrawn" in plain english means: it has to be wagered 1 time.

Also the  reason for which this, so low to be honest, wagering requirement applies seems quite understandable, reasonable and fair as well: if you deposit into a gambling site the reason should be to gamble your money at least once because it wouldn't make any sense depositing 1BTC if you are willing to gamble only 0.001BTC (unless your purposes are different from the gambling ones).

Also why a gambling site should waste time and resources processing transactions unrelated with the object of their business?

I don't see any grey areas here and everything seems fair about this.
Only suggestion to OP is to make these ToS even much more clear than they are now.

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