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September 07, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
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I am watching a lot of ads in the dark net regarding this service Payshield especially from Sigaint service which is a secret email service to keep your identity safe on the dark net.

I open this thread as I was reading this thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609835.0

And the answer of Danny Hamilton made me deeply rethink regarding the mixers I was using, Bitmixer.io and [banned mixer] as I thought them extremely secure. After reading that answer I removed their bookmark from my browser and now want to do the real mixing from a dark net service but there are many scams on dark net and TOR

Anyone has tried Payshield mixing service from there ?
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September 07, 2016, 06:38:54 PM
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Never tried any darkweb mixing or marketplace because most of those services they claim turned out to be fake and you can easily get scammed. And talking about mixing services, you may try to use with larger amount of coins so that you may loss so much trying to protect identity. I think using clean web mixing services could be enough if you aren't dealing with bitcoin that you get from criminal sources, actually you can try doing multiple mixing if you like to make transaction more messy before you finally get into your real bitcoin address.

And also using multiple trusted mixing service for one mixing make mixing more untracable even if government agency get data from one mixing service, they can't find the final address where coins will be sent.
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September 07, 2016, 06:44:49 PM
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Never tried any darkweb mixing or marketplace because most of those services they claim turned out to be fake and you can easily get scammed. And talking about mixing services, you may try to use with larger amount of coins so that you may loss so much trying to protect identity. I think using clean web mixing services could be enough if you aren't dealing with bitcoin that you get from criminal sources, actually you can try doing multiple mixing if you like to make transaction more messy before you finally get into your real bitcoin address.

And also using multiple trusted mixing service for one mixing make mixing more untracable even if government agency get data from one mixing service, they can't find the final address where coins will be sent.
YEah i agree almost everything i think in darkweb are impossible to find a good service there ..
My suggestion better to dont go in far places or in darkweb because there is no real people in the darkweb..

Decided to end it with zer0 profit.
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September 08, 2016, 04:22:50 AM
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You have answered the question yourself there are many scams on dark net and TOR but if you really desire dark net coin mixer i will recommend Bitmixer.io, you can see there tor address on their website.
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September 08, 2016, 06:32:53 AM
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Danny has a valid point but I suppose this can also be valid for Darknet websites. As far as I know that both Sigaint’s Payshield and Gram's Helix are legit  (I've seen few blog posts and Reddit posts about them).
I also found a blog post on Deepdotweb (awesome blog about Darknet) : https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/04/13/using-bitcoin-casinos-launder-bitcoin/
If you are afraid of Mixers , check the other methods they gave , Using exchange or Casinos to mix your coins is another valid option that you could use.

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September 08, 2016, 07:53:17 AM
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Danny has a valid point but I suppose this can also be valid for Darknet websites. As far as I know that both Sigaint’s Payshield and Gram's Helix are legit  (I've seen few blog posts and Reddit posts about them).
I also found a blog post on Deepdotweb (awesome blog about Darknet) : https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/04/13/using-bitcoin-casinos-launder-bitcoin/
If you are afraid of Mixers , check the other methods they gave , Using exchange or Casinos to mix your coins is another valid option that you could use.

Basically to "mix" coins you can use any service which allow you to deposit and then withdrew bitcoin.
But casino mixing is not that ideal as main reason for mixing coin is because they were used before as casino tokens.

About mixers or any satellite bitcoin services - you have no idea about what information they are gathering.
Mixers, exchanges, casinos, it doesn't matter - any of these services might have stored every transaction & info about your activity.


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September 09, 2016, 03:18:05 AM
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one has to be VERY bold to try and mix any substantial summ of money on the dark web...
come on,seriously,there is no guarantee
a: you won't get scammed
b: you won't get flagged by any of the numerous goverment agencies which seem to spend more time there than ever
c:you won't leave a trace for generations to come,neatly stored on some db just waiting to be sold or hacked into
etc. etc.
like my grandpa used to say:I don't trust anyone who I can't find and put my fist into his scull if shit hits the fan 

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September 09, 2016, 06:20:41 AM
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Hey dude, if you use https://coinmixer.se/pt/ this mixer in portuguese section you will help me só much.

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Hey dude, if you use https://coinmixer.se/pt/ this mixer in portuguese section you will help me só much.

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Why woul someone prefer to use a mixer which I guess is only known or being used in your local? It's too risky man. It's better safe that sorry so I wouldn't recommend such. If you want to use mixers, use the one on my signature.
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September 09, 2016, 09:25:28 AM
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Hey dude, if you use https://coinmixer.se/pt/ this mixer in portuguese section you will help me só much.

Pls, thx
Why woul someone prefer to use a mixer which I guess is only known or being used in your local? It's too risky man. It's better safe that sorry so I wouldn't recommend such. If you want to use mixers, use the one on my signature.

I would rather use those mixer whose reputation is great and known by people so i can make that my mixing processing will not be scam, unlike those newly one coming, and jacee is right its better safe since there are one existing mixing scam happen for past month and look what happen to hybridmixer they stole some money by their fake service provided, so thats the reason why we should really used those new or unknown ones.

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September 09, 2016, 10:46:47 AM
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Hey dude, if you use https://coinmixer.se/pt/ this mixer in portuguese section you will help me só much.

Pls, thx
Why woul someone prefer to use a mixer which I guess is only known or being used in your local? It's too risky man. It's better safe that sorry so I wouldn't recommend such. If you want to use mixers, use the one on my signature.
This mixer is not from my local, its Just a translation, anf i get bônus when people mix in pt section

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September 09, 2016, 04:39:01 PM
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I hope that someone will post a review of Payshield's service (or any other mixer on TOR).

But at this point with my very limited knowledge (I don't use TOR), I would suggest using bitmixer.io as they have been around for years and have a great service.

[banned mixer] seems to have good reviews as well.

All reviews of BTC mixers are welcome!

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Danny H does raise some good issues re mixers though...
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September 09, 2016, 04:54:47 PM
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http://coinmixibh45abn7.onion/

use pt service and help with ur ref.

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This is not my site, i only translate this and i earn some % from fees to my ref

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September 09, 2016, 04:57:11 PM
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I hope that someone will post a review of Payshield's service (or any other mixer on TOR).

But at this point with my very limited knowledge (I don't use TOR), I would suggest using bitmixer.io as they have been around for years and have a great service.

[banned mixer] seems to have good reviews as well.

All reviews of BTC mixers are welcome!

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Danny H does raise some good issues re mixers though...

I am sticking to [banned mixer] which is offering good service but I am not mixing any coins now that DannyHamilton raised a lot of doubts that these people maybe the very same government I want to hide something. Its too risky. I have chosen a different path, opening a new wallet which has 0 transactions. Its free and better than mixing. Not always the case, that is perfect only when you want to withdraw there from your sportsbook accounts for example and you need no one to see your number of mBTC you have.
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September 10, 2016, 02:10:47 PM
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Dealing with Bitcoin is dicey enough on the regular internet. I'd take an awful lot of convincing to attempt it via the dark bit. And I'll assume that every service dealing with it is probably being run by a bored guy in an NSA cubicle.
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September 11, 2016, 07:44:34 AM
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Hey dude, if you use https://coinmixer.se/pt/ this mixer in portuguese section you will help me só much.

Pls, thx
Why woul someone prefer to use a mixer which I guess is only known or being used in your local? It's too risky man. It's better safe that sorry so I wouldn't recommend such. If you want to use mixers, use the one on my signature.
You are right jacee and only [banned mixer] who can make a proof about the reserve of bitcoins in his service it can be trusted, and it will make keep be anonymous for users who using it.
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February 17, 2017, 11:04:00 AM
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