[POLL] The Marijuana Agenda

[Spoetnik]

So i seen more than one user in the Altcoin section mention this "agenda".
It got me wondering just how many people out there believe this theory.
What theory ?

Well, i will let the "truthers" explain it to you..

Why do you think marijuana laws are being relaxed all over?  To dull our brains and suppress ideas of mutiny.  It's not because tptb are sick of fighting a doomed-to-fail war on drugs.   I'm with you my friend.   Screw banks and govt control of money, viva le bitcoin.

I hear this is going to be a topic in season 3 of the TV show "Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura" 

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[Moloch]

So i seen more than one user in the Altcoin section mention this "agenda".
It got me wondering just how many people out there believe this theory.
What theory ?

Well, i will let the "truthers" explain it to you..

Why do you think marijuana laws are being relaxed all over?  To dull our brains and suppress ideas of mutiny.  It's not because tptb are sick of fighting a doomed-to-fail war on drugs.   I'm with you my friend.   Screw banks and govt control of money, viva le bitcoin.

I hear this is going to be a topic in season 3 of the TV show "Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura"  

It's called understanding the facts...

Cannabis is a schedule 1 controlled substance... there are 3 requirements to be in schedule 1:

A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

In the case of cannabis (marijuana/weed/pot), you could maybe argue that it has a high potential for abuse, but there is definitely accepted medical treatment (glaucoma, epilepsy, cancer, etc), and there is certainly safety without requiring medical supervision of its use

The DEA will argue that cannabis is as dangerous as heroin... Schedule 1 drugs include:
DMT, GHB (date rape drug), heroin, LSD, marijuana, MDMA, peyote, shrooms

One of these things is not like the other...

[criptix]

So i seen more than one user in the Altcoin section mention this "agenda".
It got me wondering just how many people out there believe this theory.
What theory ?

Well, i will let the "truthers" explain it to you..

Why do you think marijuana laws are being relaxed all over?  To dull our brains and suppress ideas of mutiny.  It's not because tptb are sick of fighting a doomed-to-fail war on drugs.   I'm with you my friend.   Screw banks and govt control of money, viva le bitcoin.

I hear this is going to be a topic in season 3 of the TV show "Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura" 

Very likely actually.

Look at the hardcore cannabis users. They are like zombies who can barely speak. 

[Spoetnik]

I'm not sure the first guy got what this was about..
Do i have to re-explain ?

2nd guy i don't think judged pot heads too fairly.
Yeah you get "high" etc ..i know i smoked half my life (it's been 10+ years since)
But i don't think many people realize that a huge part of society are your daily 9 to 5 workers who smoke.
When they get off off work and go home they smoke some pot and do what they do.
This stigma of "Zombies" is not too fair.
Although i will admit it's partially true.
I study in my town was done at the University very recently where the tested on mice the effects..
Long story short they DID prove pretty much conclusively that the mice got more lazy.
http://www.castanet.net/news/BC/174069/Rats-slackers-on-pot

Most of it opinion wise just goes with out saying so i thought..
But hearing multiple people state there is an "Agenda" at work i figured i would create this topic.

I think it's pure bullshit and lunacy.
There really is a lot of weirdo's that cling to strange conspiracies out there.
Hell look at half the topics in this forum section.

These guys are saying it's obvious there is a US government agenda..
Which is ?
They are legalizing Marijuana as a method of placating and dulling the minds of the public
..for nefarious reasons of course.

If you believe that you need help from professionals.
This is psychotic paranoia.

[Foxpup]

I'm not sure the first guy got what this was about..
Do i have to re-explain ?

I'm not sure anyone gets what your rants are about. I think you have to re-explain while sober.

[Xester]

I still do not understand what is all about that marijuana agenda.  All I know is that it is strictly prohibited with many parts of the world because of the substance cannabis oil.  If the isage of marijuana become too much it will cause a serious problem because of its side effect like hallucination.  Meanwhile, some people were pushing marijuana as controlled medicine for the cure of cancer, epilepsy and the like.

[MirkoIta]

I still do not understand what is all about that marijuana agenda.  All I know is that it is strictly prohibited with many parts of the world because of the substance cannabis oil.  If the isage of marijuana become too much it will cause a serious problem because of its side effect like hallucination.  Meanwhile, some people were pushing marijuana as controlled medicine for the cure of cancer, epilepsy and the like.

Hey Xester please tell me where I can find this "hallucinogen" marijuana I want to buy a ton of it 

I knew weed just made men beasts and women sluts 

http://theinfluence.org/pulp-posters-from-the-mid-century-show-loose-women-getting-high/

[HabBear]

Conspiracy theories are clever, however this one as a single major flaw.

The legalization of marijuana is a decision that's VOTED ON BY THE PEOPLE!

So it's not the government that's deciding to legalize the drug, it's the community. So unless the community is trying to dumb themselves for the purpose of suppressing mutiny, which is highly unlikely, the reason marijuana is becoming legal is because people want to be able to smoke weed without criminal consequence.

[criptix]

I'm not sure the first guy got what this was about..
Do i have to re-explain ?

2nd guy i don't think judged pot heads too fairly.
Yeah you get "high" etc ..i know i smoked half my life (it's been 10+ years since)
But i don't think many people realize that a huge part of society are your daily 9 to 5 workers who smoke.
When they get off off work and go home they smoke some pot and do what they do.
This stigma of "Zombies" is not too fair.
Although i will admit it's partially true.
I study in my town was done at the University very recently where the tested on mice the effects..
Long story short they DID prove pretty much conclusively that the mice got more lazy.
http://www.castanet.net/news/BC/174069/Rats-slackers-on-pot

Most of it opinion wise just goes with out saying so i thought..
But hearing multiple people state there is an "Agenda" at work i figured i would create this topic.

I think it's pure bullshit and lunacy.
There really is a lot of weirdo's that cling to strange conspiracies out there.
Hell look at half the topics in this forum section.

These guys are saying it's obvious there is a US government agenda..
Which is ?
They are legalizing Marijuana as a method of placating and dulling the minds of the public
..for nefarious reasons of course.

If you believe that you need help from professionals.
This is psychotic paranoia.

I dunno people who work and smoke a bit in the evening before going to bed or whatever are not hardcore users.( similar to people who drink a beer or a glass of whine)
Im really talking about people who do it the whole day.
And imho that is dangerous.

But myself im pro legalisation too, because this war against cannabis is not good either.
(It cost way too much and doesnt change anything)

[Moloch]

it will cause a serious problem because of its side effect like hallucination

Marijuana is not a hallucinogen... stop with the uninformed propaganda

Conspiracy theories are clever, however this one as a single major flaw.

The legalization of marijuana is a decision that's VOTED ON BY THE PEOPLE!

So it's not the government that's deciding to legalize the drug, it's the community. So unless the community is trying to dumb themselves for the purpose of suppressing mutiny, which is highly unlikely, the reason marijuana is becoming legal is because people want to be able to smoke weed without criminal consequence.

The government is the one with the conspiracy... they are keeping marijuana illegal, and in schedule 1, against all evidence... it's a conspiracy to keep the drug illegal because cops... cops "smell marijuana", and can then search a vehicle/person without probable cause

Half of the people in American prisons are there for marijuana (private, for-profit prisons)

$Billions$ of dollars are seized every year as "drug money"... even when there is zero evidence of such:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/
https://priceonomics.com/how-police-officers-seize-cash-from-innocent/

in 2010, government seized $2.5 billion in assets from criminals and innocent owners by forfeiture methods

[European Central Bank]

I know a lot of weed smokers. most of them seem just like everyone else with a side order of conspiralunacy. it seems to breed more alternative thoughts but maybe that's cancelled out by their blank demeanour.

[saddampbuh]

Half of the people in American prisons are there for marijuana (private, for-profit prisons)

how does that work when only 10% of the prisons are private

[Spoetnik]

I'm not sure the first guy got what this was about..
Do i have to re-explain ?

I'm not sure anyone gets what your rants are about. I think you have to re-explain while sober.

You are an idiot.

I never had to explain because i quoted the guy that did.
Does every little Trolling attack you do on me here have fail so badly ?
And i swear you two are the same douche here.

Same formulaic Trolling bullshit.
And yeah this is the very first time you both commented.

Learn to read moron.

[Spoetnik]

Half of the people in American prisons are there for marijuana (private, for-profit prisons)

how does that work when only 10% of the prisons are private

It's bullshit.. it costs a hell of a lot of money per person to jail people.
And that is the cheapest non luxury jails were talking about.

And Criptix i know what a chronic is.. i was one of them for a big part of my life.
I seem to know more about it than you because i have to keep posting arguing with everything you say.

Conspiracy ? Pot heads + blank demeanor ?
First thought i had is how many people that get into smoking pot are young.
I don't buy the pothead stereo-type.
All types of people smoke 24/7 and function normally and many work in surprising positions in society.
i do know that a lot of young kids smoke and prob don't have much to say.
And their personality probably contributes to things too.. quiet people don't run their mouth etc.

They are still learning about life and god bless them but they are fucking idiots that know fuck all.
Kids love to hang around and run their mouth like they know things high on weed.
Only thing worse is when meth heads do it.. WOW talk about irritating.

But ya we have to look at numbers.. The MAJORITY !
i bet a huge amount of them are attracted to conspiracies.
Those conspiracy topics are brought up lots while potheads smoke etc.
But like the guy said earlier..
If you all think their is some conspiracy govt agenda with it you are smoking too much weed.

And before you rant at me defending the conspiracy know this..
I DO support legalization for medical or recreational use.

I just think the secret agenda to control the population with weed etc etc  ..is silly.
What is REALLY scary is the fact there are people walking around with maniacal conspiracies in their head.

What single shred of proof is there to back up any of these crazy claims ?

[Foxpup]

Does every little Trolling attack you do on me here have fail so badly ?

No, I just stopped trying after your gay agenda thread.

And i swear you two are the same douche here.

That's high praise, but I'm afraid you're mistaken. I am not Moloch.

And yeah this is the very first time you both commented.

No it isn't. We both commented in your penis size thread, remember?

Learn to read moron.

I'm trying, but moron is a difficult language to learn. The grammar is so inconsistent.

[Vinz24]

I'm not really sure about that, if its really good for people. But for curing some deseases maybe, but were still bot sure. It all just a theory, and I have not yet to see a credible answer for that.

[criptix]

And Criptix i know what a chronic is.. i was one of them for a big part of my life.
I seem to know more about it than you because i have to keep posting arguing with everything you say.

Conspiracy ? Pot heads + blank demeanor ?
First thought i had is how many people that get into smoking pot are young.
I don't buy the pothead stereo-type.
All types of people smoke 24/7 and function normally and many work in surprising positions in society.
i do know that a lot of young kids smoke and prob don't have much to say.
And their personality probably contributes to things too.. quiet people don't run their mouth etc.

Please explain further what both of us are arguing about.
That chronic 24/7 pot heads are not lazy and work as every normal non pothead?

Are you high right now? I though you stopped 10 years ago

Also starting to smoke cannabis at young age is very dangerous because it changes your brain structure (this is backed up by a lot of scientific studies) which includes slower thinking and a worst ability to memorize things in relation to non cannabis smokers.


Do you think the people not agreeing with you are all part of greater bitcointalk.org conspiracy?
Or maybe a cannabis+spoetnik conspiracy on world stage?

[Foxpup]

That chronic 24/7 pot heads are not lazy and work as every normal non pothead?

To be fair, smoking pot even while asleep requires a level of dedication not typically seen in lazy non-workers.

Are you high right now? I though you stopped 10 years ago

No, she just switched to other drugs:

I DO COCAINE !!!

[d4rkv01d]

I still do not understand what is all about that marijuana agenda.  All I know is that it is strictly prohibited with many parts of the world because of the substance cannabis oil.  If the isage of marijuana become too much it will cause a serious problem because of its side effect like hallucination.  Meanwhile, some people were pushing marijuana as controlled medicine for the cure of cancer, epilepsy and the like.

MJ really helps people not only to relax and it's much safer than tobacco or alcohol. It was originally banned in usa because of cotton lobby