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September 10, 2016, 02:41:06 AM
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September 10, 2016, 03:20:41 AM
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A block chain with superuser access  Cheesy

I think it must be graved into human genetics to try to become gods once one has tasted the elixir of power.
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September 10, 2016, 03:33:08 AM
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That quote of his completely invalidated any purpose of Ethereum existing at all...

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September 10, 2016, 04:12:20 AM
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That quote of his completely invalidated any purpose of Ethereum existing at all...

Indeed.  Unstoppable, until the King stops it ; unalterable, until the King alters it.

Like in the old days.  Back to kings and states, privileged that can change the rules versus those mere mortals that have to follow the rules.  Gods, and mortals.
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September 10, 2016, 04:16:08 AM
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I think that VB finally realized (or realized from the start, and this whole mockery was one big, big scam) that exploit-free Turing complete smart contracts are like unicorns: they only exist in fairy tales.
If people knew how to write complex software in Turing complete languages without any bug or exploit, we'd know about it.

VB created "Java on block chain" with 'unstoppable code' and now realizes that this doesn't allow for "pushing security updates", so we need a King or God to stop the act, correct it, and have it run again.  Only a God can do, because if you allow a human to do so, the power will corrupt him.  Or we would need a King, trusted by God.  Like in the old days.  I think that Vitalik sees himself as suitable to be the Keymaster of God.  Like in the old days.
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September 10, 2016, 04:30:43 AM
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His intent goes a long way to framing this ETH shit.
So lets review Wink

He admitted to dumping "25% of his holdings" i heard. (i was told this was at $6 each which is bullshit)
He got 1+ Million dollars cash.

REAL CASH (or Bitcoin etc)

So.. Why ?

Agenda ? Motive ? Intent ?
Uhhnnnnmmm he dumped guys there is no guess work involved.  Cheesy

Except one thing.. Where did he get that 25% and the other 75% of coins ?
Funny how sooooooooooooooo many people *allegedly* use Ethereum and support i am told
yet i am the only one who ever brought up this issue.

Where did he get all those ETH coins ?
MILLIONS of dollars worth.. to DUMP.

And this was like a year ago almost now.. i bet since he has dumped far more secretly.
Anyone care.. hell no.. of course not.
The points drift into the abyss of sketchy Altcoin scene shenanigans that goes ignored like the rest.
The entire scene is made up of "stunts" like that.. that drift off into silence.

I have said for years you can literally get away with absolutely anything in Crypto.
You can be caught making a "Beat an old lady to death coin for her pension check"
And have it smack some old coot for 1 BTC as block reward..
And if there ends up being a public outcry they can do all kinds of things.
My favorite is "Community Take Over"
Because beat an old lady coin has HODLERS !!!!111ONE

Hell you can GOX the scene and half of crypto will cry and bring them back.
AND.. let him walk with the money.
Hell you can Mintpal or Cryptsy people here AFTER GOX and STILL get away with it.
Hell you can run with Cryptsy money and even setup a new exchange in China before the other site is even down.
And scammy fucking loser scumbags from Stakeminers for example will be over there in a flash balls deep SUPPORTING it !
..defending them every step of the way.

Through the years i have witnessed sleazy assholes pull unlimited stunts.
They are unstoppable.. no one gives two shits as long as they get a slice of the profits.
This is the context / reality of Crypto.
This is the part in denial by all 24/7
This is what the world sees when Adoption issues come up.


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September 10, 2016, 08:37:57 AM
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I've never said anything against Vitalik and Ethereum (except I hated the way they raised funds and what they did with the DAO), but now....

VITALIK, YOU ARE A FUCKING HYPOCRITE! YOU RAISED 100s OF MILLIONS $, YOU FAILED WITH THE DAO AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING: "OH, LET'S GET REAL..."

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I have said for years you can literally get away with absolutely anything in Crypto.
You can be caught making a "Beat an old lady to death coin for her pension check"
And have it smack some old coot for 1 BTC as block reward..
And if there ends up being a public outcry they can do all kinds of things.
My favorite is "Community Take Over"
Because beat an old lady coin has HODLERS !!!!111ONE

Hell you can GOX the scene and half of crypto will cry and bring them back.
AND.. let him walk with the money.
Hell you can Mintpal or Cryptsy people here AFTER GOX and STILL get away with it.
Hell you can run with Cryptsy money and even setup a new exchange in China before the other site is even down.
And scammy fucking loser scumbags from Stakeminers for example will be over there in a flash balls deep SUPPORTING it !
..defending them every step of the way.

Through the years i have witnessed sleazy assholes pull unlimited stunts.
They are unstoppable.. no one gives two shits as long as they get a slice of the profits.
This is the context / reality of Crypto.
This is the part in denial by all 24/7
This is what the world sees when Adoption issues come up.


Eh, what's wrong with that ?  Human relations in general, and business relations in particular, are like this, no ?  The idea is that you rip off the other one, right ?  You may simply be amazed at the ease by which this is done, but there's nothing particularly strange about trying, no ?  Isn't that the essence of business ?
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September 10, 2016, 09:35:08 AM
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Imo that's not the point here. Decentralization is a dream (I even created a thread about that) and it will be never achieved... at least not in the way many people are hoping. What Buterin said is the reality, but why the fuck they raised so much money from the masses? They promised something, they failed and now...   

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September 10, 2016, 09:38:13 AM
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Imo that's not the point here. Decentralization is a dream (I even created a thread about that) and it will be never achieved... at least not in the way many people are hoping. What Buterin said is the reality, but why the fuck they raised so much money from the masses? They promised something, they failed and now...   

Eh, my previous post told you exactly why.   If you can scam people and in the end you run off with a few million $, then I would say that you've done great, and I think you would think so too of yourself.

The funnier thing is that it was so easy.
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September 10, 2016, 09:42:36 AM
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If you can scam people and in the end you run off with a few million $, then I would say that you've done great, and I think you would think so too of yourself.

Never... I'd rather fuck Obama's wife...

EDIT: ... or Trump.

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September 10, 2016, 09:42:59 AM
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Why is Vitalik making it hard for himself by using a blockchain? We all know true decentralized blockchains are not scalable and could not be controlled like the way he wants. Maybe what he needs is a distributed ledger like Ripple with a turing complete programming language?

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September 10, 2016, 09:43:19 AM
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Imo that's not the point here. Decentralization is a dream (I even created a thread about that) and it will be never achieved... at least not in the way many people are hoping.

Then this whole crypto thing is totally useless, no ?  Why bother ?  From the moment there is a King, a Keymaster of God, or a God himself, he can decide what's right and what's wrong, and we need no block chain, only God's signature.  Much easier, no ?
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September 10, 2016, 09:43:54 AM
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Never... I'd rather fuck Obama's wife...

EDIT: ... or Trump.

Trump himself  Shocked , or his wife ?
 Grin
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September 10, 2016, 09:45:46 AM
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Why is Vitalik making it hard for himself by using a blockchain? We all know true decentralized blockchains are not scalable and could not be controlled like the way he wants. Maybe what he needs is a distributed ledger like Ripple with a turing complete programming language?

It could be even much easier.  You send your contracts, and all funds, to VB by e-mail (or wire transfer), and he publishes his decisions on his web site.
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Never... I'd rather fuck Obama's wife...

EDIT: ... or Trump.

Trump himself  Shocked , or his wife ?
 Grin

Fucking Trump's wife is a reward, not punishment. Smiley

RT: https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/774544412965822464

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September 11, 2016, 08:30:59 AM
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blah blah blah.. FREE MARKET <-- as said by you all MILLIONS OF TIMES FOR YEARS

Until the DAO hack of course when you all chanted CALL THE COPS.

THEN..
You all went back to defending GREED (Scroll up to read it)

Get what they deserve ?
I agree Dino.. but Spartak doesn't he created more than 1 topic / comment that..
"There is nothing funny about the DAO hack"
Apparently i am suppose to feel sorry for the risky gamblers who partook in a pyramid scheme within a pyramid scheme for profits.

I'm curious do you support the Callers who phone people during the day running scams ?
I have had my home phone-line targeted by these guys for ages some douche bag Indians trying to scam me..
They pretend to be Rev-Can and say we are going to be sued by the govt so we better give them money !
So..
When you say you support pointless greedy scam coin shenanigans you might as well say you support phone scammers ripping off mostly the elderly.
Hell they even do it door to door here regularly too.
It's the same exact broken logic..

This stupid greed dipshitery has been good for one thing..
Making enough profit for 3rd world idiots online to make enough money for them to afford some shoes.
..because shoe ownership is a big deal in some countries.



So of course they are going to defend <anything> that give them profits.
Even if it is illegal immoral corrupt and self destructive and leaves a trail of victims to spit on.

Not funny ?
No fucking shit assholes.. where have you been for 3 years as i stick up for the vulnerable here ?
None of you care about the bag holders getting PWNED year after year.. i do i have been here sticking up for them all along.. far before you all showed up.
Trust me i have taken the abuse for sticking up for them all along too while you all sit in silence profiting off of New Shoes Coin..
Spare me the integrity dance.
I have been on the dance floor by myself for 3 years kidiots.

PS:
I am just jealous i did not make made ROI on insert name of flavor of the month hyped coin.
..as i have been told 1,000000000 times so it must be true right ?
or ?
Maybe i just have a shred of class & integrity ?
Makes ya think doesn't it ?
LOL
Of course it don't duh hahhahahha

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September 11, 2016, 01:02:45 PM
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No.

MODS you can lock down this troll thread as the question has just been answered. Thank you.

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September 11, 2016, 03:19:55 PM
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No.

MODS you can lock down this troll thread as the question has just been answered. Thank you.

A rhetorical question is a question that you ask without expecting an answer. The question might be one that does not have an answer. It might also be one that has an obvious answer but you have asked the question to make a point, to persuade or for literary effect.
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September 11, 2016, 04:29:58 PM
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hey why dumping his own fork isn't better for him to dump the contender, like etc? it doesn't make sense for him to dump is home of profit, even if he sold his stash he is still very involved in the project
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