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[TwitchySeal]

Good news everyone, I found xiaoxiao.
I'm copying this from the post I just made on 2p2, https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=53229921&postcount=785


I believe Gamblor777 is xiaoxiao (the affiliate that stole all the rake back).
I also believe that he is still being paid affiliate fees by Betcoin

Here are a list of all the accounts that I believe belong to the same person.

- Gamblor777 (twoplustwo)
- HIV (twoplustwo)
- winbig777 (btctalk)
- xiaoxiao (btctalk)
- VascoBorden (betcoin)
- harryjr (betcoin)
- veganhippie (SwCPoker)
- 5850s (reddit)

The following referral accounts/links are also relevant (don't use any of them):

- win big on coins dotcom <---2p2 has censored this site ( which means he got banned for spamming here it most likely)
- https://www.betcoin.ag?r=103828
- https://www.betcoin.ag?r=109330 <---xiaoxiaos affiliate link that most regs signed up with
- https://nitrogensports.eu/r/22646



Gamblor777 and winbig777copy/pasted identicle posts yesterday bashing me.  You can see it a few posts above this one, and also on BTCTalk [LINK]  So we know they are the same person.  If you look at the post histories of each account, you'll see extremely shilly posts on BTCTalk, and just enough attention to Betcoin.ag on 2p2 to not get noticed by mods.

Here we see winbig777 claiming to be veganhippie.  Also note the signature where he advertises his site, winbig on coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962440.msg25692215#msg25692215



Now for the reddit account.  First some evidence that veganhippie is "5850s"

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/6a1npw/beginning_poker_player/dhb3uzm/


https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26dg08/state_of_the_art_of_bitcoincrypto_gambling/chq0v9z/


https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26dg08/state_of_the_art_of_bitcoincrypto_gambling/chq0v9z/



Now to show "5850s" is xiaoxiao
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1U_JvE4wcigJ:https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/7irbri/affected_by_bitcoin_fees_maybe_this_can_help/%3Fref%3Dreadnext+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Compare that affiliate link to the one Xiaxiao has been using since 2014: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0

Other relevant links that connect him other names:

In this video we see him playing on the veganhippie account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNcaWQ5tQc

This is the same person that scammed this WSOP package a few years go. (I believe he has paid back a chunk, but still owes over 20k )
Also, he got arrested for picking up a 13yo girl off craigs list. (Not joking)
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/return-iamhiv-aka-jonathan-drane-1168430/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/163/staking-selling-shares-online/comprehensive-wsop-package-selling-shares-1-25-revised-789833/

[Xiaoxiao]

Twitchy you're totally mistaken now.

I'm not Veganhippie. I know Vegan and was friends with him from 2p2 in the past.

He's simply helped me post my affiliate link before with his screenname sometimes to help me get some players and get some income, that's all.

Lol at you thinking I am Vegan, you're not the all knowing detective.

To prove that you are wrong, I'm willing to allow a forum moderator to show that my forum IP has never crossed with Vegan's since we live far away from each other.....

If I was vegan, why would make a website that has a far worse display than my betcoinrakeback website that i took down because i mismanaged people's rakeback.

Stop thinking you got it right and than making accusations of people's identities.

[TwitchySeal]

Twitchy you're totally mistaken now.

I'm not Veganhippie. I know Vegan and was friends with him from 2p2 in the past.

He's simply helped me post my affiliate link before with his screenname sometimes to help me get some players and get some income, that's all.

Lol at you thinking I am Vegan, you're not the all knowing detective.

To prove that you are wrong, I'm willing to allow a forum moderator to show that my forum IP has never crossed with Vegan's since we live far away from each other.....

lollllllll

First time you logged in with xiaoxiao since May.

Where ya been bud?

Are you the new poker room manager also?

[Xiaoxiao]

Twitchy you're totally mistaken now.

I'm not Veganhippie. I know Vegan and was friends with him from 2p2 in the past.

He's simply helped me post my affiliate link before with his screenname sometimes to help me get some players and get some income, that's all.

Lol at you thinking I am Vegan, you're not the all knowing detective.

To prove that you are wrong, I'm willing to allow a forum moderator to show that my forum IP has never crossed with Vegan's since we live far away from each other.....

lollllllll

First time you logged in with xiaoxiao since May.

Where ya been bud?

Are you the new poker room manager also?

No, i'm not involved with anything, I've been working a tough job since I went broke and mismanaged people's rakeback. It's not easy, it's whatever.....

I just lurked here and saw you accusing Vegan of being me and vice versa, it's not the truth at all.

[TwitchySeal]

I recommend anyone interested in the Betcoin trainwreck check out the twoplustwo thread: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/betcoin-poker-1458531/index33.html

[TwitchySeal]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

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[arisatox]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side?

[DarkDays]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side?

If someone is down 1500BIs off of a $5.50ABI, it's pretty safe to say that they aren't beating any level of cash anywhere.

[TwitchySeal]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side?

Betcoin isn't connected to ACR cash games.  I don't think there's anyone tracking ACR cash games.

Betcoin does have their own cash games, which I am confident are not tracked  by anyone.

As far as cjmoles stats, there are a few caveats - first, they only include tournaments - and the Betcoin only tournaments are not included (many of which have decent overlay, so there's a good chance he was a winner in these )  Also, satellites are not covered and rebuy/add-on/re-entry are not covered.  So if you spend $100 to win a $530 seat, then don't cash in the $530 mtt, I think it would show as a $530 loss.

Finally, I would (almost) never ever flame a losing player simply because they are a losing poker player.

Lots of people I love (my father, uncles, cousins, friends etc) are losing players.  I would never flame them simply because they lose money at poker.

cjmoles is a special kind of scum.  He has shilled for Betcoin for (literally) years.  He has blatantly told lie after lie, wasted countless hours of myself and others with nonsense simply to either spite his 'detractors' or to protect Betcoin (not sure why?).

So yeah. 

[DarkDays]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side?

Betcoin isn't connected to ACR cash games.  I don't think there's anyone tracking ACR cash games.

Betcoin does have their own cash games, which I am confident are not tracked  by anyone.

As far as cjmoles stats, there are a few caveats - the Betcoin only tournaments are not included (many of which have decent overlay, so there's a good chance he was a winner in these )  Also, satellites are not covered and rebuy/add-on/re-entry are not covered.  So if you spend $100 to win a $530 seat, then don't cash in the $530 mtt, I think it would show as a $530 loss.

Just a note: re-entries are now tracked, and quite accurately I might add.

I honestly don't know if satties are tracked now as well because satties are largely a sucker's game.

[arisatox]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side?

Betcoin isn't connected to ACR cash games.  I don't think there's anyone tracking ACR cash games.

Betcoin does have their own cash games, which I am confident are not tracked  by anyone.

As far as cjmoles stats, there are a few caveats - first, they only include tournaments - and the Betcoin only tournaments are not included (many of which have decent overlay, so there's a good chance he was a winner in these )  Also, satellites are not covered and rebuy/add-on/re-entry are not covered.  So if you spend $100 to win a $530 seat, then don't cash in the $530 mtt, I think it would show as a $530 loss.

Finally, I would (almost) never ever flame a losing player simply because they are a losing poker player.

Lots of people I love (my father, uncles, cousins, friends etc) are losing players.  I would never flame them simply because they lose money at poker.

cjmoles is a special kind of scum.  He has shilled for Betcoin for (literally) years.  He has blatantly told lie after lie, wasted countless hours of myself and others with nonsense simply to either spite his 'detractors' or to protect Betcoin (not sure why?).

So yeah. 

I get where you're coming from. I was mostly asking because there are a couple of high rollers on ACR I was looking into in the past, like one was up $70 thousand over a 5 hour session I watched, but none of them ever play tournaments so was hoping there was some tracker for that stuff. Hard to tell if they luck out and win a lot once or twice or if they are consistent.

[cjmoles]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

Does that amaze you?  More money than you've seen in a lifetime, huh?  LOL  Have you fooled yourself into thinking you're not bitch?  And, you've been cheating poker sites for years now multi-accounting and still can't believe people spend real money, right?  LOL  I spend more than that on bird food!  You're a broke as punk if that amazes you!

[TwitchySeal]

'Surprised' ? 
Well, no, that's really not fair.

Your recent attitude is really pretty surprising - in my opinion.

As I've previously mentioned, I would never   call out a fun player like yourself, without good reason.

I understand it's kind of embarrassing.  I really believe though, from the bottom of my heart, that you deserve very little respect myself and others in the crypto community.

It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

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[cjmoles]

'Surprised' ?  
Well, no, that's really not fair.

Your recent attitude is really pretty surprising - in my opinion.

As I've previously mentioned, I would never  call out a fun player like yourself, without good reason.

I understand it's kind of embarrassing.  I really believe though, from the bottom of my heart, that you deserve very little respect myself and others in the crypto community.

It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Really?  You got caught cheating the other players on the site by multi-accounting and you think that you deserve some respect?  You are just a butt hurt punk who got banned from the site for violating the terms and conditions ---> who is, by popular consensus,  probably on several psychotropic medications. Anyway, I've given you enough attention ---> continue on talking to your sock puppets, stupid.  LOL  Oh, I hope they tell you "Merry Christmas" this year! You might want to remind them.  

[TwitchySeal]

Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread?  Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News?  I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin.  It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player?


Truth hurts man, I'm sorry.  But - it will also set you free <3

Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k....

[TwitchySeal]

'Surprised' ?  
Well, no, that's really not fair.

Your recent attitude is really pretty surprising - in my opinion.

As I've previously mentioned, I would never  call out a fun player like yourself, without good reason.

I understand it's kind of embarrassing.  I really believe though, from the bottom of my heart, that you deserve very little respect myself and others in the crypto community.

It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games.

Take it on the chin, champ.

It's ok to lose.

Most people lose.

Before rake you got winners and the losers.

After rake, there;s always going to be fewer winners than losers.

Aint no sham brah.

[DarkDays]

Got an alert that a couple of my messages were deleted today. 

Odd that Betcoin would have the time to delete posts but not answer player's questions about how they are operating. 

Here's the messages that were deleted.  I'd like to ask Betcoin bagholders to honestly rectify their actions.  Why do you think it's ok for Betcoin to be deleting questions about how they will be handling the BBJ when they are closing in just over ONE DAY!

[TwitchySeal]

It appears Betcoin is pretending to be 'acquired' by someone - and will likely be blaming any stolen money or other player issues on the 'previous owners'.

Truly disgusting.

[DarkDays]

It appears Betcoin is pretending to be 'acquired' by someone - and will likely be blaming any stolen money or other player issues on the 'previous owners'.

Truly disgusting.

Sadly, that was VERY obvious when they made their announcement.  The fact that they aren't even trying to hide what's going on by posting under the SAME SCREEN NAME is hilarious.  Honestly, they have the utmost contempt for their user base.  I'm still waiting for any loyal Betcoin Soldier to explain how they can rectify Betcoin's actions.

Remember, they are stealing $600,000 of player funds right in front of your eyes.  And they aren't even trying to hide it.

[Neurocrypt]

good to here early i will look more closely to this trend