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January 04, 2017, 05:56:15 PM
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I will discuss in terms of US law as this is the jurisdiction that xetsr is under.

If xetsr takes out a signature loan then xetsr owes the lender the amount of the loan plus interest (and other fees depending on the terms of the loan -- this will usually include collection fees/costs). If xetsr fails to pay the loan, then the lender can report xetsr negatively to the credit bureau (which is essentially what zazarb has done by reporting xetsr in this thread), and take xetsr to court to ask the court to issue a judgement in the amount of the unpaid portion of the loan plus interest, and if the judgement is granted, the court can forcefully take xetsr's property that is subject to the court's jurisdiction if property of sufficient value exists with certain limits.

If taking xetsr to court over the loan is not something the lender is willing to do (due to cost issues, or any other reason), then the only remedies of the lender are to ask xetsr to pay (which xetsr can stop via a cease and desist request -- which is not really a "request"), and report xetsr negatively to the credit bureau. If the negative reporting to the credit bureau is not sufficient to get xetsr to pay, then there is nothing else to force xetsr to pay the lender.

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Xetsr is based in the US, and European courts would not have jurisdiction over him, so EU laws would not apply to him, but US law would.
If it was an anonymous credit, I have no idea how you could prove that US laws are applicable?
How would a European court get jurisdiction over xetsr if he is not located in Europe, and has never been to Europe?
I did not say that a European court would have jurisdiction over xetsr. My point is I find it strange that someone who would have committed a criminal offense by European law, is still on the DT list. I also did not know that it was a signature loan.

And if the loan was given anonymously, then you will likely have no success with civil court proceedings. Because in civil court proceedings you need to deliver the proof. You can hardly sue a forum account name in civil courts.

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January 04, 2017, 10:40:57 PM
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The complainant could compel the owners and operators of BitCoinTalk.org to hand over personal details of any UID they required to enable them to then serve papers.

IP / email / "real" name that sort of thing.

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The complainant could compel the owners and operators of BitCoinTalk.org to hand over personal details of any UID they required to enable them to then serve papers.

IP / email / "real" name that sort of thing.

oh shut up as anyone is using real IP on hrere.  Investigation can take money an time,  get a life, Vod

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January 08, 2017, 01:12:36 PM
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The complainant could compel the owners and operators of BitCoinTalk.org to hand over personal details of any UID they required to enable them to then serve papers.

IP / email / "real" name that sort of thing.

oh shut up as anyone is using real IP on hrere.  Investigation can take money an time,  get a life, Vod

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February 04, 2017, 08:18:31 PM
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lol he left me an invalid natural feedback and i sent him like 5 pms3 month ago and no answer he may be died  Grin
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February 06, 2017, 09:46:58 PM
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lol he left me an invalid natural feedback and i sent him like 5 pms3 month ago and no answer he may be died  Grin
He also left me an invalid feedback and people still refer to his -2 negative feedback nonsense. Time to remove this loan scammer from the DT list.

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lol he left me an invalid natural feedback and i sent him like 5 pms3 month ago and no answer he may be died  Grin
He also left me an invalid feedback and people still refer to his -2 negative feedback nonsense. Time to remove this loan scammer from the DT list.

No one just gets 'removed' either two people add a ~ in front of his name to their trust list or he is removed from the trust list he is currently on. You could always PM whoever the DT1 person is that has him on their trust list but if they really trust him then they probably won't be removing it. Who knows though, maybe they just never saw this thread or looked at his trust recently.
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February 09, 2017, 02:20:24 AM
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lol he left me an invalid natural feedback and i sent him like 5 pms3 month ago and no answer he may be died  Grin
He also left me an invalid feedback and people still refer to his -2 negative feedback nonsense. Time to remove this loan scammer from the DT list.

No one just gets 'removed' either two people add a ~ in front of his name to their trust list or he is removed from the trust list he is currently on. You could always PM whoever the DT1 person is that has him on their trust list but if they really trust him then they probably won't be removing it. Who knows though, maybe they just never saw this thread or looked at his trust recently.
I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?

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February 09, 2017, 07:15:38 AM
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lol he left me an invalid natural feedback and i sent him like 5 pms3 month ago and no answer he may be died  Grin
He also left me an invalid feedback and people still refer to his -2 negative feedback nonsense. Time to remove this loan scammer from the DT list.

No one just gets 'removed' either two people add a ~ in front of his name to their trust list or he is removed from the trust list he is currently on. You could always PM whoever the DT1 person is that has him on their trust list but if they really trust him then they probably won't be removing it. Who knows though, maybe they just never saw this thread or looked at his trust recently.
I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?


By putting a tilde (~) you are just editing trust list of yours. To get him removed you need to PM DT1 member who put him on the default trust list.

Xetsr is in Tomatocage's trust list.

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February 09, 2017, 07:20:41 AM
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lol he left me an invalid natural feedback and i sent him like 5 pms3 month ago and no answer he may be died  Grin
He also left me an invalid feedback and people still refer to his -2 negative feedback nonsense. Time to remove this loan scammer from the DT list.
I do not believe that xetsr is a scammer, although something appears to have happened that resulted in him defaulting on a loan to zazarb. I don't disagree with the vast majority of his ratings, including those against you.

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I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?
For each DT1 inclusion, you need two exclusions to get him out of the network. If you add a '~', that does nothing for anyone besides yourself and people who use a custom trust list (and have you in it). I don't see why the user should be removed from DT (yet).

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February 09, 2017, 11:42:44 PM
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I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?
For each DT1 inclusion, you need two exclusions to get him out of the network. If you add a '~', that does nothing for anyone besides yourself and people who use a custom trust list (and have you in it). I don't see why the user should be removed from DT (yet).

Apparently I should have been more clear. Two DT1 members would need to add a '~'. Not just any two people, otherwise you would have just made two newbies, added two '~'s and his true ratings mean nothing. Getting two DT1 members to agree to this is what I was saying would be difficult.
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February 10, 2017, 02:14:01 AM
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I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?
For each DT1 inclusion, you need two exclusions to get him out of the network. If you add a '~', that does nothing for anyone besides yourself and people who use a custom trust list (and have you in it). I don't see why the user should be removed from DT (yet).
He took a loan and submerged since 6 months. If this is default trust for you, then this is also fine for me. Smiley

I only feel a little bit bothered if attackers refer to the negative feedback of a submerged loan scammer, especially as his false feedback is disproven since a long time.

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February 20, 2017, 07:18:52 PM
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I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?
For each DT1 inclusion, you need two exclusions to get him out of the network. If you add a '~', that does nothing for anyone besides yourself and people who use a custom trust list (and have you in it). I don't see why the user should be removed from DT (yet).
He took a loan and submerged since 6 months. If this is default trust for you, then this is also fine for me. Smiley

I only feel a little bit bothered if attackers refer to the negative feedback of a submerged loan scammer, especially as his false feedback is disproven for a long time.

Agree with you, that dude should be removed from the default trust, or nobody give fuck about that? And yes people with feedback can take a loan and no one will talk to them good job, still ass shitty forum since 2013, will never change you guys are just losing members.
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February 20, 2017, 10:02:37 PM
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that dude should be removed from the default trust, or nobody give fuck about that?

Should be the Dis-Trust list. theymos's scammer friends?
Hey, did you hack that account or buy it?
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February 21, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
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Maybe there are people here, who know him personally?
He offline since almost month, and not respond me any via pm , any via email,
although in the last in reply(21th Aug) told that will keep me updated.

So does anyone know's where he is ? Is he Okay?



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February 21, 2017, 03:21:37 PM
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I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?
For each DT1 inclusion, you need two exclusions to get him out of the network. If you add a '~', that does nothing for anyone besides yourself and people who use a custom trust list (and have you in it). I don't see why the user should be removed from DT (yet).
He took a loan and submerged since 6 months. If this is default trust for you, then this is also fine for me. Smiley

I only feel a little bit bothered if attackers refer to the negative feedback of a submerged loan scammer, especially as his false feedback is disproven for a long time.
Sure sure.
You are the so called self proclaimed trusted and loyal one here aren't you. Roll Eyes

I know this user and have his information to answer any of those questions.
But I am not at liberty to divulge any such information unless a real lawyer is present and not just a google licensed one who got their bar from a cracker jack box. Undecided

Giving out such information is against forum rules and Theymos did say you will be liable for such actions against anyone whom is using his forum.
This is in reference to the doxxing regulation he put in place just two months ago.
So learn up on the rules and regulations here so called self proclaimed lawyer loyal member of this bctalk forum community!

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I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?
For each DT1 inclusion, you need two exclusions to get him out of the network. If you add a '~', that does nothing for anyone besides yourself and people who use a custom trust list (and have you in it). I don't see why the user should be removed from DT (yet).
He took a loan and submerged since 6 months. If this is default trust for you, then this is also fine for me. Smiley

I only feel a little bit bothered if attackers refer to the negative feedback of a submerged loan scammer, especially as his false feedback is disproven for a long time.
Sure sure.
You are the so called self proclaimed trusted and loyal one here aren't you. Roll Eyes

I know this user and have his information to answer any of those questions.
But I am not at liberty to divulge any such information unless a real lawyer is present and not just a google licensed one who got their bar from a cracker jack box. Undecided

Giving out such information is against forum rules and Theymos did say you will be liable for such actions against anyone whom is using his forum.
This is in reference to the doxxing regulation he put in place just two months ago.
So learn up on the rules and regulations here so called self proclaimed lawyer loyal member of this bctalk forum community!
Giving out what information is against forum rules?

Are alt accounts allowed?

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I already add a ~ in front of his name, but he is still on the DT list. Does this mean no one else did it, otherwise he would be already removed?
For each DT1 inclusion, you need two exclusions to get him out of the network. If you add a '~', that does nothing for anyone besides yourself and people who use a custom trust list (and have you in it). I don't see why the user should be removed from DT (yet).
He took a loan and submerged since 6 months. If this is default trust for you, then this is also fine for me. Smiley

I only feel a little bit bothered if attackers refer to the negative feedback of a submerged loan scammer, especially as his false feedback is disproven for a long time.
Sure sure.
You are the so called self proclaimed trusted and loyal one here aren't you. Roll Eyes

I know this user and have his information to answer any of those questions.
But I am not at liberty to divulge any such information unless a real lawyer is present and not just a google licensed one who got their bar from a cracker jack box. Undecided

Giving out such information is against forum rules and Theymos did say you will be liable for such actions against anyone whom is using his forum.
This is in reference to the doxxing regulation he put in place just two months ago.
So learn up on the rules and regulations here so called self proclaimed lawyer loyal member of this bctalk forum community!
Giving out what information is against forum rules?

Are alt accounts allowed?
Oh my god are you a real person?
How fucking old are you?
You ask too many questions like your a fricking woman who knows nothing about the world and their surroundings.
Do yourself and favor and go back to school and educate yourself.

Alts are allowed fool! So your tactic about defaming my name was pointless.
And yes asshole, showing personal information on a fucking PUBLIC FORUM is against the forum rules.
Such information is only given in PRIVATE which someone has already asked from me. But you do not know about this term in life do you LAWYER OF ACTING STUPID to piss off people to reveal anything to use against them. It isn't too hard to see what you are doing. How do you live your life? You must be one of those people that Trump keeps talking about being in a wheelchair and handicap not being able to cope with living with themselves.
PM is the only way to get that information from me.
But too bad you have been blocked from doing that because you a real con artist and dickhead.
And that is a fact jackass!

Go back to blogging on your stupid ass site and keep making those pennies to finish putting yourself threw school or that G.E.D or whatever the fuck it is you are trying to achieve in your life.
I done wasting even another minute with you and your senseless posts here.
Your done son!

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February 21, 2017, 11:07:27 PM
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Alts are allowed fool! So your tactic about defaming my name was pointless.
I informed the community about your alt and if alts are allowed, how did I defame your name? Did you ever hear the word logic in your life?


...showing personal information on a fucking PUBLIC FORUM is against the forum rules.
And how exactly is this related to me, as I did not show any PERSONAL information?


Such information is only given in PRIVATE which someone has already asked from me.
What information?


PM is the only way to get that information from me.
What information?

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