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June 30, 2017, 06:40:29 PM
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BTC and USD are both fairly anonymous currencies (neither is perfectly anonymous). The government creates black markets, and black markets require anonymity. Anything that grants that is likely going to be used on those black markets.


Anonymous?  Like it was not recognized or unknown to many people?  Are you really sure of that?  It is USD!  American dollar or United States Dollar.  It is impossible that it is anonymous.  But I agree with you that it can be used on drug market.

Anonymous in the sense that it will have no record for a transaction, when done via cash. If its done through online, its definitely not hidden.
And BTC is not kind of anonymous as if the government wants, they can track down, but ofcourse it can be averted by many ways.

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June 30, 2017, 07:20:37 PM
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BTC and USD are both fairly anonymous currencies (neither is perfectly anonymous). The government creates black markets, and black markets require anonymity. Anything that grants that is likely going to be used on those black markets.


Anonymous?  Like it was not recognized or unknown to many people?  Are you really sure of that?  It is USD!  American dollar or United States Dollar.  It is impossible that it is anonymous.  But I agree with you that it can be used on drug market.

Anonymous in the sense that it will have no record for a transaction, when done via cash. If its done through online, its definitely not hidden.
And BTC is not kind of anonymous as if the government wants, they can track down, but ofcourse it can be averted by many ways.

Maybe he is talking about the other anonymity here, like when you send a cash to another person maybe meeting up in a place and doing the transaction. But still, there is no way a US dollar will be anonymous, if it is anonymous, then why government can still track transactions happening. In bitcoin too, they can still track it but in the different way.

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June 30, 2017, 07:50:43 PM
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The USD is doubtless used for the most illegal activities in the world, but other currencies are used as well for illegal activities. The government can prohibit what they want, illegal activities will always exist and in most times paid in cash.

You mean illegal transactions. US dollars or other fiats are being the payment of their activities and if they want a little bit of anonymity, they use bitcoin. And yes, illegal activities will always exist to balance the world. We can't just leave at peace because that will be really making the world not balanced.

Though US dollars are not that used because it always depends on the country, and if another country will be paying another country, they will use a currency that has a higher value than US dollar.

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July 01, 2017, 01:42:02 AM
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All currencies are subject to be used in illegal activities like drug dealing, funding terrorism, illegal arms dealing etc. I believe its one of the most abused things in the world, existence of money creates more evil and greedy people but not all.

Even cryptocurrencies are prone to abusive use and people doing evil things more like it, they took advantage and benefit from its anonymity and limitless transactions.

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July 01, 2017, 04:33:05 AM
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Each currency can be used for legal or illegal activities. As we know that USD is one of the major currency in the world for more than a decade, no wonder the use of USD is world wide. It is for illegal and legal actions like funding terorism or drug dealing. That is normal I think. ANd bitcoin now will be the next major currency , be carefull that this coin will be like double edges knife.

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July 01, 2017, 04:39:13 AM
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Each currency can be used for legal or illegal activities. As we know that USD is one of the major currency in the world for more than a decade, no wonder the use of USD is world wide. It is for illegal and legal actions like funding terorism or drug dealing. That is normal I think. ANd bitcoin now will be the next major currency , be carefull that this coin will be like double edges knife.
Every currency is similar to a double edged knife. It has got the good side as well the bad part. It is how we make use of it, and interestingly bitcoin's initial days were much used for illegal transactions. Now this has changed a lot. Interestingly USD is much used because of the accessibility all over the country, which ease the transfer through different channels.

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July 01, 2017, 07:12:19 AM
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Each currency can be used for legal or illegal activities. As we know that USD is one of the major currency in the world for more than a decade, no wonder the use of USD is world wide. It is for illegal and legal actions like funding terorism or drug dealing. That is normal I think. ANd bitcoin now will be the next major currency , be carefull that this coin will be like double edges knife.
Every currency is similar to a double edged knife. It has got the good side as well the bad part. It is how we make use of it, and interestingly bitcoin's initial days were much used for illegal transactions. Now this has changed a lot. Interestingly USD is much used because of the accessibility all over the country, which ease the transfer through different channels.
As you said, the currencies or even all the things has a bad side and good side. Even bitcoin and other currencies like USD is being used in illegal transactions but even until now the usage of bitcoin in illegal transactions are still high because it is anonymous so the authorities will have a hard time in tracing them which is an advantage for the people who want to be anonymous in transacting illegal possessions.

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July 01, 2017, 07:25:26 AM
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I didn't saw this thread, and I'm going trough comments and I'm a bit surprised that discussion about this is last so much. Everyone and everything can be used for illegal activities and for evil agendas, nothing is immune. That is the logic, can someone explain me how can plant's that grows from the ground can be illegal? Who is that man that gave so much power to himself to claim something like that? Legal and illegal is in the end one man opinion. It doesn't represent what is good and bad in reality, I don't agree with many laws in this world, most of them are stupid and without any sense.

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July 01, 2017, 07:34:14 AM
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Not only USD, other currencies also very possible to use illegal. Very difficult to stop the illegal activity because the currency used very free and anyone can use it.
It is not surprising that the dollar is a strong currency and recognized by all countries in the world, so it is not surprising that it is used in illegal activities, so countries should strengthen their control over the dollar.
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July 10, 2017, 01:51:23 PM
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Not only USD, other currencies also very possible to use illegal. Very difficult to stop the illegal activity because the currency used very free and anyone can use it.
It is not surprising that the dollar is a strong currency and recognized by all countries in the world, so it is not surprising that it is used in illegal activities, so countries should strengthen their control over the dollar.
Well aren't we being a little bit racist (in money), as we all know currency has two main use; first is payment and second is income. We pay for a thing or for a service that we wanted or we needed, and income we receive fiat in exchange of a specific item or a service.

You mentioned the government's control over the strength of dollars, but its the fault is on the humans, there will always be reasons behind these illegal activities.

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August 15, 2017, 04:52:24 PM
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I see more and more articles of the USD being used for illegal activities, such as funding of terrorists and unconstitutional, illegal wars, funding of wars that cause severe infringement of civil liberties like the war on drugs, among other things. I am pretty sure that when goons smash into convenience stores and steal stuff, then the money they probably steal is USD, which makes it criminal currency. Also, I am pretty sure that the baseball bats that majority of the goons have bought were paid for by the USD.

Also, most people collect rain water, drink raw milk, and throw cannabis seeds in soil, all three acts which are considered serious illegal felonies punishable by seriously expensive fines and extensive jail time, possibly life in prison.

Some people also walk, drive, fish, or hunt without a permit that can easily be bought for in USD.
 
Will this hurt USD in the long run? Will governments ban this just like they started to do with paying in cash for some services to harden the use of illegal activities, and money laundering?
Any currency could be used for legal or illegal activities.So USD could also be used for such activities.But since USD is a global currency,it could be used world wide to do such activities and those who pay for such acts may find USD as easy to pay since it is globally accepted.
Most currencies in the world, including the USD are being used for illegal activities. Don’t even mind them saying that bitcoin is the cause of most illegal activities, USD is mostly the cause. They fund terrorists and even use it to supply them weapons, which is too bad.
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August 15, 2017, 06:11:22 PM
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I see more and more articles of the USD being used for illegal activities, such as funding of terrorists and unconstitutional, illegal wars, funding of wars that cause severe infringement of civil liberties like the war on drugs, among other things. I am pretty sure that when goons smash into convenience stores and steal stuff, then the money they probably steal is USD, which makes it criminal currency. Also, I am pretty sure that the baseball bats that majority of the goons have bought were paid for by the USD.

Also, most people collect rain water, drink raw milk, and throw cannabis seeds in soil, all three acts which are considered serious illegal felonies punishable by seriously expensive fines and extensive jail time, possibly life in prison.

Some people also walk, drive, fish, or hunt without a permit that can easily be bought for in USD.
 
Will this hurt USD in the long run? Will governments ban this just like they started to do with paying in cash for some services to harden the use of illegal activities, and money laundering?
Yes every kind of currency is being used for illegal currency like selling and buying drugs. Maybe this is the reason why the governments cannot legalize bitcoin because they think bitcoin is being used for illegal or criminal activities, that's we need to ban the people who are using bitcoin for illegal activities.

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August 15, 2017, 07:56:18 PM
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This is not a surprise that dollars are used for illegal activities. Everyone has saw films with drug dealers and their huge stacks of bucks.
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August 15, 2017, 08:43:39 PM
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goverment must ban any illegal activity, he must freeze the bank account of terorism
Am I the only one who feels that governments spy on their citizens and fear us more than the meanest terrorists and are not ashamed to use illegal methods to control and still our savings made in national currencies? Would they leave the BTC uncontrolled and threaten their dictatorship that they impose on us behind the circus with "democratic elections"? Since when the most spoiled characters stopped starving for power and hold the key government positions, and since when this world started to be ruled by angels (who would let into existence a currency they do not control)?





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BTC and USD are both fairly anonymous currencies (neither is perfectly anonymous). The government creates black markets, and black markets require anonymity. Anything that grants that is likely going to be used on those black markets.


This is the point all of the others should see. They always blame bitcoin for crime, terrorism, money laundering and other unlawful actions. They miss lots of things, with usd, anybody commit crime similar to bitcoin.

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August 16, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
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And the largest crimes are committed by the largest "democratic" governments. Fighting talibs for destroying opium plantations is so democratic a gesture. Cultivating opium in India and making Chinese addictive to it, in order to wash silver out of China in 19th century with opium wars is so a paradigmatic act of humanity and good manners. Sterilizing "3rd world" population in order to "prevent the spread of HIV" is so philanthropic...





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August 16, 2017, 04:31:19 PM
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BTC and USD are both fairly anonymous currencies (neither is perfectly anonymous). The government creates black markets, and black markets require anonymity. Anything that grants that is likely going to be used on those black markets.


This is the point all of the others should see. They always blame bitcoin for crime, terrorism, money laundering and other unlawful actions. They miss lots of things, with usd, anybody commit crime similar to bitcoin.
Haha, this is the reason make me can't understand the thought about Bitcoin of many people hate Bitcoin.
Why they don't said currency for crime, terrorism, money laundering like Bitcoin? Just by hate Bitcoin make them say that lol.

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Mostly bitcoin are being convert into USD  so because of that USD are being spotted by some goverment especially my goverment.
Yes.. until now, my goverment forbid bitcoin because criminal can convert bitcoin USD and purchase weapon via dark market

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August 16, 2017, 04:39:35 PM
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BTC and USD are both fairly anonymous currencies (neither is perfectly anonymous). The government creates black markets, and black markets require anonymity. Anything that grants that is likely going to be used on those black markets.


This is the point all of the others should see. They always blame bitcoin for crime, terrorism, money laundering and other unlawful actions. They miss lots of things, with usd, anybody commit crime similar to bitcoin.
Haha, this is the reason make me can't understand the thought about Bitcoin of many people hate Bitcoin.
Why they don't said currency for crime, terrorism, money laundering like Bitcoin? Just by hate Bitcoin make them say that lol.
Exactly, nothing is more anonymous than cash. Most of the illegal activities are funded through cash. Bitcoin which is still known to some million people is not that useful in illegal activities as cash. Terrorists are mostly funded by governments and banks and all of that is done through cash. Not a currency (bitcoin) which can be traced.
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August 16, 2017, 05:16:58 PM
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The accusations against bitcoin it is a planned attack on the crypto currency. Public opinion gradually prepared for the fact that bitcoin is evil and must be fought with him. Only wide spread crypto currency and knowledge of them can stop this process.
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