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September 20, 2016, 08:26:25 PM
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Residue from an explosive compound found at the scene of an explosion in a New York City neighborhood is unregulated and routinely used for target practice with exploding targets.

The compound, known by the brand name Tannerite, is sold in sporting goods stores. It is not regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives because it is sold as a mix of two chemicals that when kept separate are inert.

ATF has previously issued advisories about Tannerite and what it describes as "binary exploding targets." The compound is typically used to mark a shot from a high-velocity rifle round with a small cloud of smoke.

The explosive compounds are generally made up of an oxidizer such as ammonium nitrate and aluminum or another metal-based powder and only become an explosive when combined. The ATF said someone would only need an explosives license to handle the material if it is combined and they are using it commercially.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/09/18/us/politics/ap-us-manhattan-explosion-tannerite.html

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September 28, 2016, 03:17:03 PM
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It turns out that explosives can buy anyone in the sports shop. Scared for his life becomes of such news
Believe me, the explosives can be made from simple substances that are used at home. You don't even know what linking they give such an effect. So bans will do nothing.
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September 29, 2016, 11:38:21 AM
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It turns out that explosives can buy anyone in the sports shop. Scared for his life becomes of such news
Believe me, the explosives can be made from simple substances that are used at home. You don't even know what linking they give such an effect. So bans will do nothing.
But I also know that in the store you can buy products from which the house can make explosives. Not as strong as C4, but dangerous.
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October 02, 2016, 03:17:28 AM
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We just don't know if the victims were actually terrified. We assume they were in great spirits. We don't want to jump to conclusions.
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February 13, 2017, 12:47:28 PM
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Residue from an explosive compound found at the scene of an explosion in a New York City neighborhood is unregulated and routinely used for target practice with exploding targets.

The compound, known by the brand name Tannerite, is sold in sporting goods stores. It is not regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives because it is sold as a mix of two chemicals that when kept separate are inert.

ATF has previously issued advisories about Tannerite and what it describes as "binary exploding targets." The compound is typically used to mark a shot from a high-velocity rifle round with a small cloud of smoke.

The explosive compounds are generally made up of an oxidizer such as ammonium nitrate and aluminum or another metal-based powder and only become an explosive when combined. The ATF said someone would only need an explosives license to handle the material if it is combined and they are using it commercially.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/09/18/us/politics/ap-us-manhattan-explosion-tannerite.html

Americas war on terrorism is a failure since even in their country they cannot regulate the use of such substances that can be used to create certain explosives. This just shows that terrorists can just enter their country without carrying explosives but after entering the United States of America they will just purchase these substances mix them and an instant homemade explosive device can now be used to terrorize people.
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February 13, 2017, 04:31:23 PM
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It turns out that explosives can buy anyone in the sports shop. Scared for his life becomes of such news
Believe me, the explosives can be made from simple substances that are used at home. You don't even know what linking they give such an effect. So bans will do nothing.

Explosives can be made from easily available substances, but the potency of such explosives will be very low. If you want to make very powerful explosives, then you need to purchase a large number of hard-to-obtain chemicals.

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February 13, 2017, 05:46:09 PM
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Residue from an explosive compound found at the scene of an explosion in a New York City neighborhood is unregulated and routinely used for target practice with exploding targets.

The compound, known by the brand name Tannerite, is sold in sporting goods stores. It is not regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives because it is sold as a mix of two chemicals that when kept separate are inert.

ATF has previously issued advisories about Tannerite and what it describes as "binary exploding targets." The compound is typically used to mark a shot from a high-velocity rifle round with a small cloud of smoke.

The explosive compounds are generally made up of an oxidizer such as ammonium nitrate and aluminum or another metal-based powder and only become an explosive when combined. The ATF said someone would only need an explosives license to handle the material if it is combined and they are using it commercially.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/09/18/us/politics/ap-us-manhattan-explosion-tannerite.html

Well people can create explosive in the United States you can find easily find stuff for explosive substance or ingredients its easily made and school teach them how to do it but you can buy them at the black market and i don't know where that is but really i would like to ban that substance to make explosive because its really hard to face terrorist with bombs on their chest or bag. They can ban that substance for the brighter future of the United States.
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February 13, 2017, 06:49:40 PM
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It turns out that explosives can buy anyone in the sports shop. Scared for his life becomes of such news
Believe me, the explosives can be made from simple substances that are used at home. You don't even know what linking they give such an effect. So bans will do nothing.

Explosives can be made from easily available substances, but the potency of such explosives will be very low. If you want to make very powerful explosives, then you need to purchase a large number of hard-to-obtain chemicals.
Terrorist attacks do not need much powerful explosives. Rather primitive made in the home. In the attacks the main political resonance and chaos. Believe me, even if not to detonate the bomb, and will find effect will be.
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December 20, 2019, 10:37:27 AM
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It turns out that explosives can buy anyone in the sports shop. Scared for his life becomes of such news
Believe me, the explosives can be made from simple substances that are used at home. You don't even know what linking they give such an effect. So bans will do nothing.

Explosives can be made from easily available substances, but the potency of such explosives will be very low. If you want to make very powerful explosives, then you need to purchase a large number of hard-to-obtain chemicals.

Tannerite itself is easily created with commonly available substances. The possibility of effectively regulating this is about zero. If you do it right, you can blow up a house with a bag of flour and some firecrackers. It is even possible to make high explosives from common grocery store items. All this FUD over Tannerite is just more fear mongering designed to push the fearful population into the warm regulatory bosom of the state with no other result than removing freedoms.
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December 21, 2019, 12:59:12 AM
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We just don't know if the victims were actually terrified. We assume they were in great spirits. We don't want to jump to conclusions.

Good point. Maybe it was the want-to-be terrorist who was terrified when all those peoples' eyes rotated around to him. Because I have a feeling they were all madder than hornets...
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December 24, 2019, 08:54:11 PM
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Even if a substance like this was made illegal to purchase, especially in commercial sport stores, I don't think it would stop someone genuinely looking to cause a deadly explosion in an urban area like New York City.
Lets pretend that this particular substance was banned,and it was "impossible" to obtain without a license or whatever. If it is a compound of two non-explosive materials, can't the individual looking to cause harm with this just purchase those two components repeatedly, and mix it themselves? To crack down on such specific substances like this is difficult, as you never really expect people to do these things until they happen, and that that point it is too late Sad

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December 24, 2019, 10:31:46 PM
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Isn't this typically something that happens? I know that a good deal of stores have combinations of checmicals that when seperated won't cause any damage, but when put together could cause a massive explosision. It's why in movies when people go into a Home Depot and order a good deal of items that could be used for explosives, posionious gases, etc -- home depot employees will alert the local police.

This is only an issue when people go ahead and mix things and abuse it, not without that.




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December 24, 2019, 11:45:40 PM
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Ban won't help tho. First we should prevent people from wanting to kill each other
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