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October 03, 2016, 07:02:01 PM
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Thing is, there is little point closing/moving threads, but allowing farmed accounts. They gotta post somewhere.
Locking threads in the beginner and help is ok, but these accounts are still lurking.

Take https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836341 emezh10.
If you look in beginner and help now, emezh10 is the most recent poster in 5 6 threads in a row. You can see that took him 6 minutes.

Look at his post history, bingo. Spam. Farmed account.
Those 5 posts in beginner and help were only part of 10 posts today. all in beginner and help. All 10 posts took 8 minute.
To call them 1 line spam is being generous. They are only half a line.

It is so clear to see. So easy to find.
Of course, emezh10 has other accounts doing exactly the same thing, I can see them!
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October 03, 2016, 09:36:07 PM
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I'd quite like the feeling of logging on after a few days and seeing I've got 100 new messages.
I'd hate to see 100 messages of the same type cluttering up my box.

So it would be great if other users could take a proactive part and think "that threads too full, lets just tell them and see if they do anything" before they clog the moderator's inboxs (moderators won't delete or lock it anyway as it is not techincally against any rules of the forum).
Not that many users are rational people, and a fair number are involved in the spam so I doubt that this would work. Those that are aware of it and want to fight it in a way, already do (e.g. I don't open non self-moderated threads anymore).

Thing is, there is little point closing/moving threads, but allowing farmed accounts. They gotta post somewhere.
Nobody is allowing farmed accounts that are used for spam. Your list is being looked into among.

Locking threads in the beginner and help is ok, but these accounts are still lurking.
As I've already told you this before, the moderation *hierarchy* doesn't give us a lot of options (unless one is global moderator, or admin).

Thanks for the report. This one is obvious and will be dealt with swiftly.

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October 04, 2016, 05:36:01 PM
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Thing is, there is little point closing/moving threads, but allowing farmed accounts. They gotta post somewhere.
Nobody is allowing farmed accounts that are used for spam. Your list is being looked into among.

Locking threads in the beginner and help is ok, but these accounts are still lurking.
As I've already told you this before, the moderation *hierarchy* doesn't give us a lot of options (unless one is global moderator, or admin).

Thanks for the report. This one is obvious and will be dealt with swiftly.

Every farmed account I have listed is spamming or acting to gain community confidence to scam or sell.
I have shown time and again how they spam, not noticed anything happen, no one has communicated with me.
That is the first I have heard that my list is of any interest to any admin/global mod, after 5 weeks.
I've had no help. No communication. No encouragement. Nothing.
These farmed accounts are totally different to someone owning 2 or 3 accounts.
Probably 1 or 2 (certainly very few) people/groups own many hundreds of farmed accounts.

Ok, I understand you do not have the authority to act here. I've not seen any interest from anyone who could do something.

You are welcome to the report above. It is obvious. Had you seen it already?
You did not ask for further information about the other obvious accounts that I mentioned emezh10 is spamming from, just as obviously, but untroubled by mods?

Any chance of banned accounts being marked so all can see?  Smiley

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October 04, 2016, 05:41:34 PM
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I have shown time and again how they spam, not noticed anything happen, no one has communicated with me. That is the first I have heard that my list is of any interest to any admin/global mod, after 5 weeks.
I've had no help. No communication. No encouragement. Nothing.
Well, it is a very extensive list. Even if some of the senior staff members only decide to ban individuals, they'd still have go through the post history of each of those. Now, when you factor in investigating for potential alt accounts on each, it ends up taking even longer.

Probably 1 or 2 (certainly very few) people/groups own many hundreds of farmed accounts.
That's a possibility that I will not deny.

You are welcome to the report above. It is obvious. Had you seen it already?
I did report it as soon as I've read your post. No, I'm actually how I missed them in the Speculation section.

You did not ask for further information about the other obvious accounts that I mentioned emezh10 is spamming from, just as obviously, but untroubled by mods?
What further information? Isn't everything in your thread?

Any chance of banned accounts being marked so all can see?  Smiley
I'm not sure about that; you'd have to suggest it to theymos.

We are side-tracking from OP here, although what we are talking about has relevance. Maybe we should cross back into your thread?

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October 04, 2016, 06:02:27 PM
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I have shown time and again how they spam, not noticed anything happen, no one has communicated with me. That is the first I have heard that my list is of any interest to any admin/global mod, after 5 weeks.
I've had no help. No communication. No encouragement. Nothing.
Well, it is a very extensive list. Even if some of the senior staff members only decide to ban individuals, they'd still have go through the post history of each of those. Now, when you factor in investigating for potential alt accounts on each, it ends up taking even longer.

I acknowledged it below and have mentioned that thread to Cyrus two or three times when I've messaged him about other spammers but he's probably ridiculously busy and it's going to take hours to look into and investigate fully but I'm sure he'll get around to it.



Cantoner was banned but clearly not all his other related accounts were. (see the list he is on here)
In fact, it could only be a tiny percentage that were banned, as nearly all I have listed (and connected) are still active.
(or was there just lots of zero post accounts banned as mentioned in bbc.spammer thread?)

I wondered, "Was there mass banning of accounts related to Knowhow? (was that based on random individual member reports, or more thorough like here)"
Was it just 1 or 2 accounts involved/banned?


BadBear will have likely only found the ones from the IP(s) connected directly to KnowHow. I've asked Cyrus to look into it further.

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October 04, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
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Take https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=836341 emezh10.
It is so clear to see. So easy to find.
Of course, emezh10 has other accounts doing exactly the same thing, I can see them!

Thanks for the report. This one is obvious and will be dealt with swiftly.

You did not ask for further information about the other obvious accounts that I mentioned emezh10 is spamming from, just as obviously, but untroubled by mods?
What further information? Isn't everything in your thread?

No not everything is in my thread. emezh10 is not in my thread, yet.
But I can see his other accounts. let me know if you want to know about them.

feel free to bring something to my thread. No spamming Grin 

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