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September 26, 2016, 09:59:33 PM
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September 26, 2016, 10:28:57 PM
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This site faucet looks like freebitco.in, just register on your site to give it a try Cheesy

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September 27, 2016, 12:36:23 AM
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This site faucet looks like freebitco.in, just register on your site to give it a try Cheesy

Hope all goes well Smiley Let me know if you need anything


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September 27, 2016, 12:44:39 AM
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Why a 5% house edge for your HI/Lo game? I understand if it's so faucet claimers have a harder chance at winning, but it seems you want people to deposit as well. Most dice sites use a 1% edge or even lower. What is your bankroll for the HI/LO game? Also, what are the requirements to withdraw the 50% deposit bonus?

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September 27, 2016, 12:50:25 AM
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So this is as much as freebitco.in with a multiple games I guess. Actually iy is quite good to think out this way with some snake games but with this system exactly as freebitco.in how are you going to choose the real 10 winners from the lottery? And how much is the minimal your lottery prize? Because if people tend to not gambling there or buy tickets you dont have anything to put on your lottery prize unless you get it from your pocket
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September 27, 2016, 01:07:26 AM
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I would only consider your site to gamble with faucet money. Depositing when site is new and is not even using SSL protocol is a no-no for me.
Also as DarkStar mentioned you have some abnormally high House Edge - industry standard is much lower than 5% no one will pick your site to play when other sites offers 1% HE.
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September 27, 2016, 01:25:07 AM
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Thanks guys. You all make good suggestions/notices. I should really target one demographic - gambler or faucet user. I'm leaning towards faucet user.

As for the other questions. Lottery is mainly funded by free rolls. Every roll = free ticket. Free ticket boosts the lottery. I haven't bothered to add any ads to the pages yet. So far dice has funded it plus I set funds aside for it.

In all honesty, I think this is more for faucet users than gamblers in the current state. I should request this to be closed.


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September 27, 2016, 08:47:18 PM
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What are the chances to roll number 10000 on the site for the mega prize? Cheesy

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September 27, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
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Freebitco.in copycat with lower rewards on the free roll and small lottery prizes, but the lottery ticket is more expensive than freebitco.in
If you want to be a competitor of the older site, you should offer something better or at least make it equal.

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September 27, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
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What are the chances to roll number 10000 on the site for the mega prize? Cheesy

Slim. Highest has been 0.02650000 BTC

Freebitco.in copycat with lower rewards on the free roll and small lottery prizes, but the lottery ticket is more expensive than freebitco.in
If you want to be a competitor of the older site, you should offer something better or at least make it equal.

Realistically, they can't be matched just starting out. I'd rather not make a site that has to close in a month. They have a massive amount of users making deposits so they can offer higher rewards. At the price of bitcoin currently, these rewards are fair.

I'll comment on the lottery ticket fee too. It's at a higher cost right now because people are just taking the free ones. The lottery is based off the price of tickets. Since people are just taking the free ones I put a higher price on the tickets to make the lottery larger. Once there's a stronger user base I'll lower the cost because there's more chance of a user making a small deposit to buy a bunch.

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September 28, 2016, 12:04:59 AM
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it is a very good site, congratz! really liked your faucet (satoshi snake) and with lottery it gets even better.
like has been said by @maku, you need to improve the security if you want deposits.

i never played at freebitco, so i dont know nothing about the copycat accusation.
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it is a very good site, congratz! really liked your faucet (satoshi snake) and with lottery it gets even better.
like has been said by @maku, you need to improve the security if you want deposits.

i never played at freebitco, so i dont know nothing about the copycat accusation.


It's not a clone. It uses the same style faucet/lottery and has dice.

freebitco.in is much larger with many additional features.

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What are the wage requirements to get the extra 50% ? What is the max ? How long will it be on promotion for I assume you just using it to get your site off the ground. Oh and a snake game is a really cool idea. I will register and try the site now and see how it goes and maybe leave another comment on how it went.

 
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September 28, 2016, 07:18:28 PM
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What are the wage requirements to get the extra 50% ? What is the max ? How long will it be on promotion for I assume you just using it to get your site off the ground. Oh and a snake game is a really cool idea. I will register and try the site now and see how it goes and maybe leave another comment on how it went.

I'll add it as soon as I'm given notice of the deposit. I'd expect at least the bonus amount total to be wagered. If you win, you win. I don't require you to lose before making a withdrawal.

I'll probably run it another couple days.

Edit: also, the deposit is a tad different. I stopped pushing for gamblers and went to faucet users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1626278.0 still decent though


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Nice try, the server seed changes with every bet. Seem like a scam.
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Everyday new site like this comes online, Let me see if this site sustains for long time,
1. why did you design faucet similar to freebitco.in
2. that sathoshi snake is taking forever to load

Nice try, the server seed changes with every bet. Seem like a scam.

I don't understand this why does server seed change would become scam. Is the site changing the server seed of current roll after rolling the dice.
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I don't understand this why does server seed change would become scam. Is the site changing the server seed of current roll after rolling the dice.

They present themselves as a nonce based system. This would indicate that the server seed should remain constant before you randomize it, otherwise the algo does not make sense.
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Nice try, the server seed changes with every bet. Seem like a scam.

Huh? Of course, it has to change every time else everyone would be able to form the right client hash and nonce and win big every time. Server hash has to change for every bet, and they can use the Verification page to confirm their bet integrity.


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Nice try, the server seed changes with every bet. Seem like a scam.

Huh? Of course, it has to change every time else everyone would be able to form the right client hash and nonce and win big every time. Server hash has to change for every bet, and they can use the Verification page to confirm their bet integrity.

You have a weak understanding of how provably fair works. Please take time to review how any major dice site (PD, betking, bitdice, etc.) work. They commit to a server seed and let you pick a client seed, that way they cannot pick a server seed that would be biased. The nonce increases automatically with each roll. When they player wants to verify, he can change the server seed and thereby reveal the old server seed in an unhashed form.

This is basic stuff, really. Do your homework before starting a site that accepts money.
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Nice try, the server seed changes with every bet. Seem like a scam.

Huh? Of course, it has to change every time else everyone would be able to form the right client hash and nonce and win big every time. Server hash has to change for every bet, and they can use the Verification page to confirm their bet integrity.

You have a weak understanding of how provably fair works. Please take time to review how any major dice site (PD, betking, bitdice, etc.) work. They commit to a server seed and let you pick a client seed, that way they cannot pick a server seed that would be biased. The nonce increases automatically with each roll. When they player wants to verify, he can change the server seed and thereby reveal the old server seed in an unhashed form.

This is basic stuff, really. Do your homework before starting a site that accepts money.

It's perfectly fair. You change the server seed each roll or the dice game will be cheated. That's how it's done.


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