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September 28, 2016, 01:23:23 PM
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Subject.. these 800+ watt miners are just to much power draw.. It is expensive for a hobby.  100watts and under is almost unnoticeable on a power bill.. Anyone heard of any news by chance of a 100 watt or less miner.

Still running the "new r-box" and 4 side hack USB's I am(I really like the usb miners, random side request anyone have a youtube link of setting it up on a raspi start to finish?).  I will not use over 400 watts for mining and like to keep it under 150.
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September 28, 2016, 02:00:30 PM
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I cannot announce anything official, but let it be known I am working on both ~100W pod and new sticks with 14/16nm chips.

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September 28, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
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I cannot announce anything official, but let it be known I am working on both ~100W pod and new sticks with 14/16nm chips.

REALLY looking forward to this....

Keep up the great work, @Sidehack!!!
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September 28, 2016, 02:26:51 PM
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And everyone else helping out. To be fair, I'm just the project hub and nothing would get done if there weren't three or four other people pitching in on different parts of it.

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September 28, 2016, 03:26:11 PM
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You can always buy an S7-LN, undervolt and throw out the other blade and you'll have a 200W miner.

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September 28, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
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You can always buy an S7-LN, undervolt and throw out the other blade and you'll have a 200W miner.

Ive got my sidehack'd S7LN running 445m and drawing 440watt at the wall and getting a shade over 2Th. So if you underclock it even more then you could well be below your 400watt limit and still be +1Th range which is more efficient than the R-boxes.

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September 28, 2016, 03:45:00 PM
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I cannot announce anything official, but let it be known I am working on both ~100W pod and new sticks with 14/16nm chips.

You are my hero!! I want one so badly!! lol. Alas.. just one or two of the pods but hey I still want them!!
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September 28, 2016, 07:16:13 PM
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I cannot announce anything official, but let it be known I am working on both ~100W pod and new sticks with 14/16nm chips.

Perhaps a rough ETA ?!?!?!!?  Like 6 months or 3 years kind of rough lol? If not no worries.
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September 28, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
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A new Compac may be forthcoming depending on chip sources and the software guy currently working on a test stick.

I got some other sample chips and just got datasheets for them yesterday, and have already started scheming with software guys about what we want to do for a 1-chip stick and probably a 10-chip pod (estimate in the 80W peak power range) whose concepts will transfer pretty readily to a full S1 refit board. I won't set a tentative ETA because there are entirely too many variables, but I would really really like to be selling stick miners and maybe have some pods by Christmas.

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September 28, 2016, 07:58:35 PM
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Looks like my little aluminium rig to house my atx breakout board, 12v converter, raspi and usb hubs and three gekkos wont go to waste after all then  Grin


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September 29, 2016, 01:32:40 AM
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A new Compac may be forthcoming depending on chip sources and the software guy currently working on a test stick.

I got some other sample chips and just got datasheets for them yesterday, and have already started scheming with software guys about what we want to do for a 1-chip stick and probably a 10-chip pod (estimate in the 80W peak power range) whose concepts will transfer pretty readily to a full S1 refit board. I won't set a tentative ETA because there are entirely too many variables, but I would really really like to be selling stick miners and maybe have some pods by Christmas.

This is a awesome news! Smiley I will be more than happy to provide support for Canada.

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September 29, 2016, 08:49:39 PM
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A new Compac may be forthcoming depending on chip sources and the software guy currently working on a test stick.

I got some other sample chips and just got datasheets for them yesterday, and have already started scheming with software guys about what we want to do for a 1-chip stick and probably a 10-chip pod (estimate in the 80W peak power range) whose concepts will transfer pretty readily to a full S1 refit board. I won't set a tentative ETA because there are entirely too many variables, but I would really really like to be selling stick miners and maybe have some pods by Christmas.

I've taken a look at a few pictures of an s1 and it looks like the same basic construction of the s3. Two end plates that attach to the heatsinks on the hashboard. It's that how the pod miner will fit? I've got two end plates (where the fans attach) from an old s3 and was going to throw them out, but won't if they are useful.

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September 29, 2016, 09:00:28 PM
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There is no relation between a pod miner and any S1/S3/S5 hardware.

Anything mounting to S1/S3/S5 chassis will not be a pod.

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October 04, 2016, 05:08:13 PM
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There is no relation between a pod miner and any S1/S3/S5 hardware.

Anything mounting to S1/S3/S5 chassis will not be a pod.

I am super excited for this pod & usb miner.

Would the old usb run along side the new one? Like could I just plug it in and it will start mining?  I assume separate software?
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October 04, 2016, 09:26:07 PM
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Depends on the software guy. He's actually already integrated BM1384 Compac into the Icarus driver, shouldn't be an issue being able to compile new stuff alongside that.

I am also super excited. Hopefully stuff works.

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October 06, 2016, 03:20:26 PM
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So I mentioned earlier that the software guy is working on a test stick around a 14nm ASIC. I just found out the chip supplier won't be selling more chips, so it looks like the few I can build with sample chips will be the only ones to ever exist.

The software guy is gonna keep working on a driver because the hardware is pretty well working already.

The payment arrangement with him was a percentage of sales. But it looks an awful lot like that's not gonna happen, so I plan to auction off the few functional sticks I can build with sample chips in order to get him paid and cover some of the other dev costs.

I'll probably put up some other failed prototypes (A3218 and BM1385 based) and maybe some pod tests and such.

Not sure yet when that'll happen.

On a "good news" front, I did just send a rough hardware layout to Novak, who will be working on the controls for the new 16nm stick in progress. The control setup should port over pretty readily to pods and full-scale miners with the same chip. Hopefully this time the supplier doesn't fall through. So, our hopes for having a 100W or less miner with 16nm chips is still alive.

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October 06, 2016, 03:53:18 PM
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So I mentioned earlier that the software guy is working on a test stick around a 14nm ASIC. I just found out the chip supplier won't be selling more chips, so it looks like the few I can build with sample chips will be the only ones to ever exist.

The software guy is gonna keep working on a driver because the hardware is pretty well working already.

The payment arrangement with him was a percentage of sales. But it looks an awful lot like that's not gonna happen, so I plan to auction off the few functional sticks I can build with sample chips in order to get him paid and cover some of the other dev costs.

I'll probably put up some other failed prototypes (A3218 and BM1385 based) and maybe some pod tests and such.

Not sure yet when that'll happen.

On a "good news" front, I did just send a rough hardware layout to Novak, who will be working on the controls for the new 16nm stick in progress. The control setup should port over pretty readily to pods and full-scale miners with the same chip. Hopefully this time the supplier doesn't fall through. So, our hopes for having a 100W or less miner with 16nm chips is still alive.

That's a shame. Well I hope I win one in the auctions  Grin

Good news about the progress on the 16nm stick. Fingers crossed they keep selling the chips  Wink

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Sad, sad news.
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October 07, 2016, 08:09:26 PM
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Sad, sad news.

it's not completely over yet, I bet there will be more small 16nm sub-100 watt devices in the future. If larger companies realize that there's actually a large demand for them we might see a product elsewhere. I'm still hyped for something to come out from sidehack, the dream is still alive Smiley hopefully you guys get a good chip provider and things next time around, I still believe in you guys ^^
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October 07, 2016, 08:34:11 PM
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Well like I said, I had samples from 2 manufacturers. One of them, the one I had first and already have a hardware prototype capable of hashing, won't be selling more chips so those few prototypes are all that will exist.

The other sent me a bunch more samples (enough to test a stick and a pod) and good datasheets, and they've been proactive and supportive so far. The project is split into three parts (hardware, firmware, driver) with "vh" coding the driver and novak back at the wheel for controls. I've already sent a sans-microcontroller layout to Novak to finish up. My goal is to be shipping sticks by Christmas, which will depend heavily on chip supplies and where the money comes from, which gives us about five weeks to iron out a manufacturable design in time to get a bulk batch of PCBs ordered.

I'm also already working on a pod miner layout that I expect to pull about 80W at the top end. It'll be designed for 12VDC, and take in power from either a barrel jack or a PCIe 6-pin. USB connection with the controls based on the stickminer (which will integrate software voltage control and a temp sensor) probably plus fan control. I will not, as I intended with BM1384 pods, make it compatible with CPU heatsinks as I wasted a heck of a lot of board space providing for various mounting frames and stuff. The current layout, if I can keep it, will be 3x4 inches and use an 80mm fan.

The controls for that will pipe directly into the TypeZero project, which is to say the S1/3/5 chassis-compatible boards. Instead of 80W we're looking more like 200W peak per board.

I'm more excited about it now than I have been in a long time. Just depends on the chip source staying cooperative.

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