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September 30, 2016, 03:54:57 PM
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I see more and more Alt coins and also Blockchain based technologies being developed, where privacy is destroyed to make room for

better features { Faster confirmation for transactions & user-friendly GUI } We need to consider if we value privacy {pseudo anonymity}

over better features in the future.

The attack angle from these competing technologies seem to be speed and ease of use. Will you dump Bitcoin for improved features in

other technologies and in the process sacrifice the financial privacy you have with Bitcoin?

Just curious how you see this, and what you will do, when these technologies hit the scene. They are currently a bit behind, but they are

catching up VERY fast.  Huh


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September 30, 2016, 03:59:19 PM
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Depends a lot on what level privacy is sacrificed.

If it is tracable to me personally and to my details on the public blockhain I would never do it. I would also rather not have my data connected to a database of the company that may get compromised, leaking all my data for everybody to find.

If it is somehow certain that my personal data cannot be directly linked to publically available data (blockchain) I might consider it.
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September 30, 2016, 04:02:37 PM
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it matters to a bunch of people on here. in the wider world no one seems to care about a single thing when it comes to privacy. they actively give it away while people on the fringes are shouting out warnings.
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September 30, 2016, 04:17:01 PM
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I would rather have privacy over ease of use, I think privacy is really undervalued by a lot of people.
Not because I'd have something illegal in mind, well nothing too illegal  Cool

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September 30, 2016, 04:18:01 PM
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Just to clear up some confusion... I am not talking about public blockchain technologies, but rather these private blockchains being

developed by the banks, where they will have full control and also 100% access to all your transactions. That said, some public Alt coins,

also bend over to the pressure by governments to link personal information with users wallets. The clouds are forming, and we should

prepare to educate people about the difference and the threats that these technologies are posing towards their financial privacy.  Shocked

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September 30, 2016, 04:42:35 PM
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The people that are willing to sacrifice personal data for smoothness/speed are the same people that are short term hanger on folks.
They do not see the bigger picture and could care a less how and what they give up to make a quicker buck.
More of the older members are able to still feel what bitcoin should be in changing the world,rather than bowing to government.

If Alt coins want to go the speed route I have no issues with that and believe there is room for all kinds of coins or systems in the crypto world. But I feel to alter bitcoin is to exploit the true essence of world changing power into pretty much nothing special at all.

Banks control us hand in hand with the government,bitcoin is giving us that chance to get away from manipulative systems.
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September 30, 2016, 04:48:08 PM
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banks are already looking at utilising some cryptocurrency features. but not all (mainly just blockchain which by itself has flaws)
research RGTS blockchain.

but from a human prospective.
it does not matter what network/database/management system a bank has, banks will still have their issues.
EG
"managed funds" - you need banks consent to move funds, but unequally they can move funds without your consent
"seizing funds" - government laws allowing them to take funds as they please and hand it to governments
"guarantee" - funds are not technically yours. but if they go bankrupt and take funds with them, someone else will compensate you to a certain limit

like i said it does not matter what technology they use, even if banks were bartering guns, bread and gold. or used a blockchain network. banks will still screw people over under the pretence that their "service" has more positives than negatives.

even if they measured their bankcoin where 1bank coin would ALWAYS be valued at lets say 10,000 bitcoin bits(like returning to the gold reserve days). banks will still screw you over.

i cannot see anyone who truly understands bitcoin and receives a wage in bitcoin and spends bitcoin to live on would drop bitcoin to go 100% back to fiat(bankcoin), due to not only the 3 examples i gave, but other reasons too

as a side note:
there have been over 1000 altcoins all with different features. lets take litecoin, it has so far existed for 5 years and has a faster confirmation time. yet if you ask 250,000 merchants accepting bitcoin "what is litecoin" they couldnt tell you. if you asked banks wanting blockchain technology "what is litecoin" they will not know enough to explain the differences and wont be mentioning it in any extra benefit than bitcoin.
so for 5 years of making other currencies all with different features, abilities and benefits.. bitcoin is still top.
this can easily be proven by asking. does any other cryptocurrency have 250,000 merchants

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September 30, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
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its human nature . we always demand for more and more wealth which is being used for our comfortable ( easy of use )
today we have in this modern technology era using bitcoin and if people find domething else which saves their time then i think they will go there and use that think only users which really care about btc will try to avoid it and i am one of them

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September 30, 2016, 06:10:28 PM
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I certainly would not abandon Bitcoin for these "private blockchains being developed by the banks". Mainly because I have no intention of going back to where I don't even have full control of my own funds. I don't want to have to go through them for every little thing I want to do with my own money.

Then there's the "tracking", they can practically trace everything to you do and look through every single thing you buy, where your money goes and where you get it from.

Though I must say, with most of the exchanges asking for Identity verification and all sorts of personal info for "AML/KYC" compliance is really annoying. sigh.


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September 30, 2016, 09:33:41 PM
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How about the other way around? I'd be happy if BTC would get a bit more difficult to use to get more privacy.
Besides, BTC's very easy to use. I don't know how it could be made easier.

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September 30, 2016, 09:48:22 PM
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I personally wouldn't be interested in sacrificing privacy for ease of use, Bitcoin is easy enough to use already and it isn't in need of any modifications. The only issue I have with Bitcoin right now are the confirmation times, and even those aren't that bad. It's not worth sacrificing the security and anonymity for that.
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September 30, 2016, 09:56:45 PM
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Wait what ? The main reason why I deal with bitcoins is because of its privacy/anonymity .

So, NO ! I wouldn't sacrifice that.

PLUS bitcoins is already easy and GUI-supported. There is nearly nothing wrong with it except for the time for the transactions to be confirmed but that isn't that painful either.
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September 30, 2016, 10:16:22 PM
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Wait what ? The main reason why I deal with bitcoins is because of its privacy/anonymity .

So, NO ! I wouldn't sacrifice that.

PLUS bitcoins is already easy and GUI-supported. There is nearly nothing wrong with it except for the time for the transactions to be confirmed but that isn't that painful either.
explicitly, enough to say, as some of the use(s) of bitcoin must be used anonymously as in the darknet. there are no way for them to sacrifice their identity. one of why bitcoin was created was not to allow arbitrary limits

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September 30, 2016, 10:40:25 PM
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Not really, as that might turn into another can of worms that will lead to sacrificing more and more things until eventually we end up with central banking again.   

Don't sacrifice anything like privacy or security or decentralization.
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September 30, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
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Rise of PC did not kill mainframe. Rise of blockchain wont kill bitcoin either. Bitcoin will make its place as digital gold.

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September 30, 2016, 11:54:52 PM
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I won't sacrifice privacy for ease of use and better features. For me, bitcoin is okay of what it is now. If transaction information will be shared just like banks, then the result will be the same. It will lead to financial identity theft or maybe even stalking, and that's not good. If it happens, as of now I don't have an idea on what will I do.
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September 30, 2016, 11:55:55 PM
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How about the other way around? I'd be happy if BTC would get a bit more difficult to use to get more privacy.
Besides, BTC's very easy to use. I don't know how it could be made easier.

I wholeheartedly agree here, no way in hell would I sacrifice privacy to make it easier, but I would trade ease of use to enable more privacy in such a way that it makes legislation by states and financial institutions, (which bitcoin was intended to thwart anyway,) even harder to enforce.
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October 01, 2016, 12:34:21 AM
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I might invest into the altcoins banks are creating and will make as long they offer something usefull to earn a fee with them otherwise i wont expose and stay with bitcoin, usually i dont like nothing that some entity has plenty control over it but lets see what the banks has to offer to crypto world.
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October 01, 2016, 12:44:51 AM
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For which features ? If the features can make bitcoin more better and make more people to use bitcoin, i okay for that. But i hope bitcoin is still easy of use even the new features come.
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October 01, 2016, 12:46:33 AM
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Like most people said, it depends on what privacy issues am I giving up. You definitely dont want to pay for something while people being able to see who bought it, and where he lives etc.

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