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October 02, 2016, 07:14:21 AM
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So I came across this member veleten and his following post : -

tried the service
once yo've downloaded the exe client
and registered
at https://safe-inet.com,(which comes in both english and russian)
login
get a free code from the topic and activate 24hr free test VPN
(which somehow happened to be the 21 hr free VPN later on)
if you like to risk-run the client Smiley
install vpn,use your login and pass for safe-inet as the vpn credentials
good to go
you get:
17 different countries' servers,MORE THAN 20 double VPN setups,a few tripple VPN setups,
own lightweight client with connection control and  automatic network shutdown on diconnect
My proxy/ip detection services described connection as suspected network sharing device,tested >5 countries
including sweden,us,germany,france and uk.
all the countries displayed correctly,no IP leakage or flagged as spam source
Connection is fast , no complaints about the quality of the route.
TS claims no logs(who doesn't,lol) and no sniffing,total anonimity.
Good:fast,easy to use,lightweight client,decent choice of countries,double VPN setups,shuts your network on disconnects automatically
many payment options,including Bitcoin,almost instant access(in theory,payments processing not tested) to secure VPN =register-setup-connect took less than 5 min
Bad:interface is not 100% user friendly,no skype support(ICQ,reallly ? hello 1999?)
Ugly:price 1.3$/24h and 190$ yearly subscription... cut the yearly subscription price in half,the price might start to look adequate tbh

Verdict:looks like a quality,but overpriced service for those who need privacy and are willing to pay some extra buck.

14PN53nJTUVDJiWoaDjkHkMiHX94TbSNtW moneys go here Smiley

as the first reviewer i demand some free 1 month access too


Forget the post,after searching for the red-bold address within bitcointalk,you will be linked to various threads such as : -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1200700.msg15219610#msg15219610
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481327.msg14929956#msg14929956

The address is blacklisted as a spammy coin stealing address by all the faucet owners.For which,I'm assuming the following member is responsible for stealing coins from various faucets.Deserves Negative ?


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October 02, 2016, 07:27:52 AM
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Short answer: Yes.





It depends on what you truly feel is right. If it were up to me, I'd tag a known scammer. However, in this case, it's on a faucet abuse list (??) and I'm unsure about what that may have to do with trust. Of course, it isn't like they're not bad... but...

It's unknown exactly what they've done. The list was generalized for "bots and scammers" but that covers a wide range. I won't deny that that is in and of itself (the category that is) a hindrance to the community, though. Thus, I would say a negative trust may be in order. Something like...
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Abused faucets.

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October 02, 2016, 09:26:53 AM
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Short answer: Yes.





It depends on what you truly feel is right. If it were up to me, I'd tag a known scammer. However, in this case, it's on a faucet abuse list (??) and I'm unsure about what that may have to do with trust. Of course, it isn't like they're not bad... but...

It's unknown exactly what they've done. The list was generalized for "bots and scammers" but that covers a wide range. I won't deny that that is in and of itself (the category that is) a hindrance to the community, though. Thus, I would say a negative trust may be in order. Something like...
Code:
Abused faucets.


short answer:do a little research before creating topics  and jumping to conclusions
this address was used in my quite popular at the time faucet rotator http://rotator.doublebitcoins.com/r/101freebtc/
it was abandoned almost a year ago  
read the topic in question and you will see that many of the list,rotator or facet owners were put on the "scammers" list due to a high margin of error,only to be removed after
for example:

and you think that if I were a scammmer I'd post that particular address on bitcointalk?
p.s. will contact the OP for the address to be removed from that list

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October 02, 2016, 02:25:51 PM
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short answer:do a little research before creating topics  and jumping to conclusions
this address was used in my quite popular at the time faucet rotator http://rotator.doublebitcoins.com/r/101freebtc/
it was abandoned almost a year ago  
read the topic in question and you will see that many of the list,rotator or facet owners were put on the "scammers" list due to a high margin of error,only to be removed after
for example:

Do you have any proof to back up your claim? Do you have anything that could say, prove that you were, in fact, the owner of the faucet rotator and that the address was used at the time of operation? But... wait a minute. Why are you using an address? It's just a rotator, right? It's not like you're directly paying to the users - or to FaucetBox or whatever crap there is. So, do you want to clarify your story?
And don't say any shit like "I used the rotator" because (even though it may be slightly inaccurate) you would have to essentially have been abusing the faucets to have landed on that list.

and you think that if I were a scammmer I'd post that particular address on bitcointalk?
p.s. will contact the OP for the address to be removed from that list

Yes. We can't expect you to have brains, come on.

If you get caught, you get caught. Don't try to say that you're too smart to get caught.

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October 02, 2016, 03:25:43 PM
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short answer:do a little research before creating topics  and jumping to conclusions
this address was used in my quite popular at the time faucet rotator http://rotator.doublebitcoins.com/r/101freebtc/
it was abandoned almost a year ago  
read the topic in question and you will see that many of the list,rotator or facet owners were put on the "scammers" list due to a high margin of error,only to be removed after
for example:

Do you have any proof to back up your claim? Do you have anything that could say, prove that you were, in fact, the owner of the faucet rotator and that the address was used at the time of operation? But... wait a minute. Why are you using an address? It's just a rotator, right? It's not like you're directly paying to the users - or to FaucetBox or whatever crap there is. So, do you want to clarify your story?
And don't say any shit like "I used the rotator" because (even though it may be slightly inaccurate) you would have to essentially have been abusing the faucets to have landed on that list.

and you think that if I were a scammmer I'd post that particular address on bitcointalk?
p.s. will contact the OP for the address to be removed from that list

Yes. We can't expect you to have brains, come on.

If you get caught, you get caught. Don't try to say that you're too smart to get caught.


hello?
what claim?
you are  making scam accusations here based on a list of one faucet owner who put all the addresses he thought were bots or recieveing too much of affiliate earning from his faucet
re-read the topic again
but I doubt you would or had for that matter,all you care for is increasing that lovely post count for the sig campaign
or you never owned a faucet and don't understand how faucet rotators and faucet lists work


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October 02, 2016, 03:50:34 PM
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hello?
what claim?

this address [14PN53nJTUVDJiWoaDjkHkMiHX94TbSNtW] was used in my quite popular at the time faucet rotator http://rotator.doublebitcoins.com/r/101freebtc/
it was abandoned almost a year ago  

You claim 3 things:
1. The address was used in a faucet rotator.
2. You owned that faucet rotator.
3. It was abandoned almost a year ago.

Hence my question - do you have any proof to back up your claim? [number 2]



or you never owned a faucet and don't understand how faucet rotators and faucet lists work

Unfortunately, I'm not completely 100% knowledgeable in how faucet rotators/lists work. However, I know that you redirect users to other faucets. I am correct, right? I would consider the possibility of the faucet owners banning you from receiving affiliate funds (where in turn you remove them from your rotator), but I feel like that would be more negative for the owner instead of you.

It's worth adding that your rotator is on a rotator list itself - and that its total visits aren't that great in number (165,000)



but I doubt you would or had for that matter,all you care for is increasing that lovely post count for the sig campaign

How ironic. I'll have you know, I spend more than 10 seconds on these posts! That's a lot of time!
sarcasm alert

TL;DR: It seems strange that the owners would ban someone who brings in lots of people - it's smarter just to keep you there, increasing their ad revenue. You should also show proof that you own that faucet rotator.

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October 02, 2016, 04:40:28 PM
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hello?
what claim?

this address [14PN53nJTUVDJiWoaDjkHkMiHX94TbSNtW] was used in my quite popular at the time faucet rotator http://rotator.doublebitcoins.com/r/101freebtc/
it was abandoned almost a year ago  

You claim 3 things:
1. The address was used in a faucet rotator.
2. You owned that faucet rotator.
3. It was abandoned almost a year ago.

Hence my question - do you have any proof to back up your claim? [number 2]



or you never owned a faucet and don't understand how faucet rotators and faucet lists work

Unfortunately, I'm not completely 100% knowledgeable in how faucet rotators/lists work. However, I know that you redirect users to other faucets. I am correct, right? I would consider the possibility of the faucet owners banning you from receiving affiliate funds (where in turn you remove them from your rotator), but I feel like that would be more negative for the owner instead of you.

It's worth adding that your rotator is on a rotator list itself - and that its total visits aren't that great in number (165,000)



but I doubt you would or had for that matter,all you care for is increasing that lovely post count for the sig campaign

How ironic. I'll have you know, I spend more than 10 seconds on these posts! That's a lot of time!
sarcasm alert

TL;DR: It seems strange that the owners would ban someone who brings in lots of people - it's smarter just to keep you there, increasing their ad revenue. You should also show proof that you own that faucet rotator.


seriously,you take time to search for the btc address in question
do same and search for the http://rotator.doublebitcoins.com/r/101freebtc/ and you will find my topics (if not deleted by mods)
and I own it still(go and check the ref addy if you like),unlike the faucet that I had to take down cause it was  unprofitable as hell,I used to spend hours updating the lists and the rotator with the most profitable faucets and games and spent,probably,0.3 btc or so on advertising them too,blessed be my naive heart Smiley 
as for the faucets,once a user claimed with my btc address as a ref in 90% of the cases he becomes my affiliate FOREVER and MY btc address is shown as a referrer to the faucet owners he claims from
I cannot be responsible for what happens next,he or them could have been claiming all night long,all I know that i NEVER scammed anyone or abused anything

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