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January 20, 2014, 10:52:44 PM
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Avoid Cloud Hashing like the plague !!!
Cloudhashing is big FRAUD !!!!

In Dec of 2013 I purchased the Silver Mining Contract (10 GH/s) for 1.73 BTC, based on comments in this forum and elsewhere that the Cloudhashing silver contact would yield about 5 BTC/yr.   It was immediately clear that it wasn't hashing at the claimed 5 BTC/yr rate, so I immediately requested a refund, as offered in their offer for sale. Zac at Cloudhashing said they would issue the refund. After several weeks of excuses, they issued a partial refund of 1.25 BTC. They claimed the refund was in the dollar equivalent. This was after they delayed for several weeks and the BTC / USD rated changed significantly. They fleeced me for 0.46 BTC. Can you imagine if you purchased foreign on a FOREX exchange at the market, and the trader did the trade, then wouldn't credit your account for several weeks waits for the exchange rate to change, then pockets the difference? That's effectively what CloudHashing does.....

I pinged a message to the CEO, Emmnauel Abiodun, with documents about the problem and lack of full refund, and the problems I was having with the customer support, or lack thereof.  Emmnauel was totally flippant in his reply, effectively telling me off, that if I had a concern that I should talk to customer support.

 (You should ask your self why there is no phone number on the website, and they won't tell you the full name of the staff that work there). *** Look on the BitCoinTalk.org forum, many people who have been ripped off by CloudHashing are just now coming forward. *** - some comments on user CloudHasher - are showing the fraud there.

If you've been scammed by CloudHashing, please come forward about your situation on these Forums. 
Otherwise, their scam will go on, and they will make the BitCoin and Altcoin community look very bad to new users and new investors.
I can't think of a worse ambassador to the Bitcoin community than Cloudhashing (well, now that Silk Road is shut down).

People are just now learning about and coming forward about this Bernie Madoff level scam from CloudHashing.

I've contacted some of their advertisers.
A big reason I went with Cloudhashing was their ads on Info Wars with Alex Jones via the GCN.
Alex Jones says he personally uses the products he advertises.   That likely true with many of his product in the Infowarsstore, I doubt it's the case with

If this goes on, people also need to contact
centraltx.BBB.org
SEC.gov (Securities Fraud)
FTC.gov (False Advertising, Fraud, Refusal to give the requested refund they claim to offer)
FCC.com (False Ads, bait and switch)

Also call their ad network and discuss how you got burned by CloudHashing.
When I talked with Jason Worsley, ad rep, at GNC (Genesis Communication Network)
http://www.gcnlive.com/CMS/index.php
 877-996-4327  x118
Jason told me it was the first he'd heard the Cloudhashing is a scam.
So if you've been fleeced by Cloudhashing, it's important you call the leadership at GCN and Infowars to let them know of this fraud.
You may need to talk with Ted Anderson, the founder at CGN to get resolution.

at Infowars.com
the contact number is
888-253-3139
ask for the office support team for the radio show

Good luck on getting any positive ROI, let alone a lucrative return. 
Ditto in trying to get your refund they claim to offer in 7 days, when you find the hash rates aren't anywhere they need to be for the deal to pencil economically.

(If you're new to BitCoin/Altcoin, my best results so far have been:
LocalBitCoins.com  (just pay cash and meet in person at a local coffee shop with wifi to deal the deal to buy or sell some BTC)
run a mining program on your computer(s) and mine at home for DogeCoin, LiteCoin, or other Scrypt based coins, they can be traded to BTC on the exchanges if need be).
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January 20, 2014, 11:04:56 PM
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Cloudhashing is big FRAUD !!!!
No they're not.  They're paying out.

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based on comments in this forum and elsewhere that the Cloudhashing silver contact would yield about 5 BTC/yr.  It was immediately clear that it wasn't hashing at the claimed 5 BTC/yr rate, so I immediately requested a refund
You can't immediately tell what your actual rate of return is.  It takes at least a week, because the rate at which the pool finds blocks varies.  Their time between blocks, theoretically, is around 12 hours right now, but I've often seen 3 or 4 in one day, followed by none the next day.

Nobody knows what the rate of return will be after a year, but they're paying me approximately what they should, based on my hash rate, their hash rate, and the total network hash rate.
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January 21, 2014, 02:08:34 AM
Last edit: January 21, 2014, 02:35:59 AM by turbocharged
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Cloudhashing is a fraud for many reasons.
If you read and understood my ENTIRE post, which you didn't, you would see for example 1. their offer for sale claims a refund is available in the first 7 days.  But then they won't give you the full refund or in a timely manner, in fact they shortchange people by a amount.   That is Fraud, a lie, a deceit.  It's also embezzlement to hold back and pocket client account money like that.

Most likely you (MSC) are just a shill that works for Cloudhashing and their PR team posting more lies on their behalf.
If you closely look at the forum, you'll see there are quite a few people now coming forward about the Cloudhashing SCAM.

I think it's likely Cloudhashing will be like Terrahash, Part2.   Look up what happened to Terrahash.   Their leaderships behavior and lack of ethics sounds similar to Cloudhashing, and similar problems with dishonesty across the board.   It would be unfortunate, but not a surprise, if Cloudhashing ends up like Terrahash did.
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January 21, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
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Actually, my situation with CH was that I was one of the first to sign up and had a shitload of issues with their customer service. After a few hundred emails and posts here, they actually called me and got shit resolved. They explained that being a new start-up they were overwhelmed with orders and service requests. They hired some new people and were on a new path. I actually spoke to Zak, Lucas, Michael and possible one more so they are real people and definitely not scammers in my opinion.

That being said, they went from bad to good. Hopefully they will maintain their current customer service levels which  I think are pretty decent.
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January 21, 2014, 07:54:19 PM
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I have an order that was pushed back from January 15 to the 31th. I really hope they will deliver on that date, but you can imagine that even if they do, I missed two precious weeks of mining (especially with the increase in difficulty now. Sad
Granted, they seem to be oversubscribed now, while they wait for new hardware.  They shouldn't be selling January contracts anymore. 
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January 21, 2014, 08:27:31 PM
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Well I have got paid out .37 BTC in about 5 weeks. I am sure that will change once difficulty rises.
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January 21, 2014, 09:18:24 PM
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Are you going to reinvest to cope with the rising difficulty, you think?

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January 22, 2014, 01:45:30 AM
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Are you going to reinvest to cope with the rising difficulty, you think?

Actually, I am taking the btc and investing elsewhere. I had a good ebay gig going but paypal put the damper on that REAL quick. They hate btc and will go out of their way to screw you.
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January 22, 2014, 07:27:27 AM
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Know exactly what you're talking about. It seems they will allow it somewhere in February though: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/01/17/breaking-news-ebay-will-allow-bitcoin-trading/

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January 22, 2014, 11:56:31 AM
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Know exactly what you're talking about. It seems they will allow it somewhere in February though: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/01/17/breaking-news-ebay-will-allow-bitcoin-trading/

Actually, ebay allows it now, but regardless of what they allow, Paypal will shut down your account if you have ANY issues. I was recently scammed by some little commie bastard who bought some currency. He said he never got it and submitted a claim and paypal took the funds back. Fortunately for me, I have been with paypal and ebay since they started and after review my record paypal said that even though they don't cover ecurrencies that they would cover my loss AS-LONG-AS I signed an affidavit stating that I would not use paypal for trading coin/hashing/contracts or anything that has to do with ecurrency.

Now ebay on the other hand could give a flip. The only problem is that when you list you need to have some form of electronic payment to be accepted or your listing won't go through. It is really an f'd up situation as ebay and paypal are almost one in the same.
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February 04, 2014, 11:40:34 AM
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Now, can I wear your hide as a poncho?

Aw, all right.
It's made from ponys, you know.
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February 04, 2014, 11:43:53 AM
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Cloudhashing is big FRAUD !!!!
No they're not.  They're paying out.

So, how much of your investment did they pay out to you and how much is still on their accounts?
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February 04, 2014, 03:13:01 PM
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Cloudhashing is big FRAUD !!!!
No they're not.  They're paying out.

So, how much of your investment did they pay out to you and how much is still on their accounts?

Invested 19.2 BTC, repaid 3.29, and 1.94 in RRP.  I'm at 100% RRP until they add hardware, because it'll give me a significant increase in power.

I'm not saying they're perfect, or even good.  I trust them to pay out the block rewards that they receive, but that's about it.

12/04/13   -0.8992
12/05/13   -3.7269
12/06/13   -3.9789
12/08/13   0.1118
12/10/13   -4.8468
12/10/13   -0.9758
12/12/13   0.26
12/15/13   0.26
12/16/13   0.2672
12/18/13   0.2529
12/24/13   0.2648
12/27/13   0.2657
01/02/14   0.2642
01/04/14   -4.7745
01/05/14   0.2636
01/11/14   0.5590
01/17/14   0.2534
01/26/14   0.27

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February 04, 2014, 11:27:43 PM
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Cloudhashing is big FRAUD !!!!
No they're not.  They're paying out.

So, how much of your investment did they pay out to you and how much is still on their accounts?

Invested 19.2 BTC, repaid 3.29, and 1.94 in RRP.  I'm at 100% RRP until they add hardware, because it'll give me a significant increase in power.

I'm not saying they're perfect, or even good.  I trust them to pay out the block rewards that they receive, but that's about it.

12/04/13   -0.8992
12/05/13   -3.7269
12/06/13   -3.9789
12/08/13   0.1118
12/10/13   -4.8468
12/10/13   -0.9758
12/12/13   0.26
12/15/13   0.26
12/16/13   0.2672
12/18/13   0.2529
12/24/13   0.2648
12/27/13   0.2657
01/02/14   0.2642
01/04/14   -4.7745
01/05/14   0.2636
01/11/14   0.5590
01/17/14   0.2534
01/26/14   0.27



Looks like a ~15-16BTC loss per year. Congrats.  Grin

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February 04, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
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Looks like a ~15-16BTC loss per year. Congrats.  Grin
Nah, I'll get another 2 BTC back easily.
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February 05, 2014, 03:27:37 AM
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Cloudhashing has been a huge disappointment on several fronts:

1) Clear violation to contract in fulfilling promised GHs increases.
2) Failure to deliver on scheduled RRP (reinvestment of BTC into new GHs) dates repeatedly
3) It seems they are just as susceptible to the same hardware backlogs as any other user despite their claims of priority with the OEMs
4) Ridiculously poor block returns, which they repeatedly claim is normal, but from best I can tell relates to their small total THs
5) If it's not that, it's outright theft or incompetence (I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt)
6) Contacting customer service gets one nowhere - they just blame their suppliers, and make no attempt to compensate for my missing profits
7) Overall it's been a waste of BTC so far

They have lost all trust and reputation in my mind, but I get it, they're just trying to make a business in a virginal industry... if I didn't understand the risks I would be making a much bigger stink. But either way I would stay away from them - I could have bought BTC and been much farther ahead by now. They have failed to deliver and don't seem to care.
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February 05, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
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Hi,

After three weeks of waiting, my contract is supposed to start tomorrow. I hope I will get something out of it, but it was mostly just a bet.

Don't know about the RRD investment. It still says: "The next RRP will take place on January 31st 2014 at a cost of $15.00/Gh."  , so looks kinda sketchy.

My contract has been pushed back another five days without any notice. Sad

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February 07, 2014, 03:22:16 PM
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I ordered a January contract for 20Gh/s in December. It didn't start until around the 15th. For me if you say "January contract" that means "January" like ALL of January, like starting January 1st. But whatever.

So far I have received 0.05485519 BTC.

Thoughts?

In three weeks you received 0.054 BTC? Are you putting something in reinvestment or is it really that low? That would mean you would maybe get like half a BTC after a year.

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February 12, 2014, 01:59:59 AM
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skipping math in school is costly later in life

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February 12, 2014, 09:03:28 AM
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skipping math in school is costly later in life

I'm taking the increased difficulty int account Smiley

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