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October 06, 2016, 01:04:20 PM
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I've been lurking a bit, just reading about investing in bankrolls to make a return on coin. I couldn't find any hard numbers anywhere on average returns per website, other than anecdotes from posts. Are there any official charts somewhere that show average profit/loss for the major sites?
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October 06, 2016, 01:07:54 PM
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I got some total profit charts: https://dicesites.com/graphs

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October 06, 2016, 01:22:37 PM
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I've been lurking a bit, just reading about investing in bankrolls to make a return on coin. I couldn't find any hard numbers anywhere on average returns per website, other than anecdotes from posts. Are there any official charts somewhere that show average profit/loss for the major sites?
I Don't Think That Investing In Bitcoin Casinos is Profitable Because A Casino Can Run Away With Your Money Anytime or If the Casino Is Popular Than it would Be Hacked By Someone And Then Your Funds Gone.....
According to me Trading Is Better Than Investing in Casino Bankrolls.....

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October 06, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
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I've been lurking a bit, just reading about investing in bankrolls to make a return on coin. I couldn't find any hard numbers anywhere on average returns per website, other than anecdotes from posts. Are there any official charts somewhere that show average profit/loss for the major sites?
I Don't Think That Investing In Bitcoin Casinos is Profitable Because A Casino Can Run Away With Your Money Anytime or If the Casino Is Popular Than it would Be Hacked By Someone And Then Your Funds Gone.....
According to me Trading Is Better Than Investing in Casino Bankrolls.....
I Think Your Usage Of Capitals Is Pretty Annoying.



It can be profitable, but you are correct that it is very risky. You have to do your research well and make good judgments into which sites you will invest. And even if the owner is trusted/fair you might lose simply because of variance and winning players. That being said, personally I have made decent profits by investing last few years.

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October 06, 2016, 02:38:53 PM
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I've been lurking a bit, just reading about investing in bankrolls to make a return on coin. I couldn't find any hard numbers anywhere on average returns per website, other than anecdotes from posts. Are there any official charts somewhere that show average profit/loss for the major sites?

for official charts you have to visit the gambling site itself and look around to see if they are offering that or not (if i remember it right moneypot offers such charts)

but for solid numbers you can check out this topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585408.0
it contains 5 of most popular gambling sites and started had invested 1BTC in each of them

this is after 2 months:

check the topic for more discussion.


I got some total profit charts: https://dicesites.com/graphs

this looks good, thanks for the link.
but the charts doesn't indicate which gambling site's status are these, or is it a total of all?
never mind, there is a legend on the right that i didn't see before lol

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October 06, 2016, 02:54:01 PM
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I've been lurking a bit, just reading about investing in bankrolls to make a return on coin. I couldn't find any hard numbers anywhere on average returns per website, other than anecdotes from posts. Are there any official charts somewhere that show average profit/loss for the major sites?
The house does not always win. They do lose as well. They only win in the long run. Hence, your winning chance depends on your investment time. Again Luck!

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October 06, 2016, 03:23:28 PM
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I think you should try dice sites rollin.io

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October 06, 2016, 03:24:54 PM
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I think you should try dice sites rollin.io
Without a public investment feature? Good idea.

It can be profitable, but you are correct that it is very risky. You have to do your research well and make good judgments into which sites you will invest. And even if the owner is trusted/fair you might lose simply because of variance and winning players. That being said, personally I have made decent profits by investing last few years.
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October 06, 2016, 03:28:53 PM
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This is the same posted from red-apple but i think more information you can get it here http://bitcoingamblingreviews.com/bitcoin-gambling-investments-112/
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October 06, 2016, 03:38:46 PM
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Casino bankroll is profitable if the investment is a big amount, else you could get only a mere amount. So its better to involve into small scale trading with small amounts as mentioned by few users.

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October 06, 2016, 03:45:38 PM
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How small are we talking about here?  like 1million satoshi thats the minimum amount you can invest on most site that has an invest option. Even for a small investor I can say it's not bad to invest it on a casino rather than letting your coins just sit on your wallet.

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October 06, 2016, 04:47:12 PM
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Haven't seen such graph before but have few experience in investing gambling sites bankroll specially in moneypot bankroll. Return was not like 1-2% per day but really small fraction per day and also chance of lossing is so much and at one incident one of the lucky winner won a big amount making all of the bankroll investor lossing so much amount of their bankroll. So i will say risk of losing is very high for a fractional return on your investment in gambling bankroll.

 
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October 06, 2016, 11:04:50 PM
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I've invested a total of 0.45BTC across 3 bitcoin gambling sites 2 days ago, and here are my results (profit). Keep in mind that in the long term, things won't always be the same, and you could still lose. My investment at BitVest was negative for the first day and a half. 0.15BTC each, so I think that qualifies as a small investor.

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Crypto-Games.net: 0.00123500 BTC
Betking.io: 0.00064596 BTC

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October 06, 2016, 11:40:03 PM
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It doesnt matter that you are huge investor or some small investor because in investment you will sure get profit though,only matter of time until you get it because in the end house always win. Huge and tiny investor just matter on their result in getting the profit so if you want to habe big profit you should invest more. And the important thing here is you really need to take some good review on each site so you will know whether this site is worth to be invested or not
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October 07, 2016, 12:18:41 AM
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MoneyPot investing is recently bringing losses. What happened? I imagine some whales got lucky.
But still compared to almost 40% profit of BetKing and 29% of SafeDice it looks rather poor and it might discourage investors.
Bankroll investing is definitely the best way to locate your money for small investors right now forget about cloud mining scams.
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October 07, 2016, 01:55:18 AM
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there are no fixed numbers , so don't try to ask people about their experiences cause the answer won't be truly accurate
you should just check the house edge , house bankroll , house fee , avg daily wagers and of course the site repu

some months you may make like 30% ROI and others you may lose , that's why you should only consider the EV
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October 16, 2016, 06:51:56 PM
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I've been lurking a bit, just reading about investing in bankrolls to make a return on coin. I couldn't find any hard numbers anywhere on average returns per website, other than anecdotes from posts. Are there any official charts somewhere that show average profit/loss for the major sites?

You can get 3%-5% per month if you can't get that you shouldn't bother to invest. I wouln't go with money pot I left my money in there for 3 months and it went to 103% at the highest then down and up. 3% in 3 months is pathetic.

 
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October 16, 2016, 08:03:48 PM
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You would essentially be seeing the same ROI that the site gets in that time. So if the site has a bank roll of 100 btc, and you had 1 btc invested. On a site wide profit of 100 btc, they basically jumped their investment by a 100%, so you would do the same and would get only 2btc in total, which is the initial percentage you had invested in the bankroll.
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October 16, 2016, 09:31:28 PM
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I dont think that their is any fixed return in gambling sites as if some players play bingo game and hit the jackpot and just run away then that loss will be in investment also, so i think you can not get assured income in the gambling / dice sites, it may go profit or loss also.
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October 16, 2016, 10:38:09 PM
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You would essentially be seeing the same ROI that the site gets in that time. So if the site has a bank roll of 100 btc, and you had 1 btc invested. On a site wide profit of 100 btc, they basically jumped their investment by a 100%, so you would do the same and would get only 2btc in total, which is the initial percentage you had invested in the bankroll.

What do you mean "only" double your investment is hardly "ownly"

I dont think that their is any fixed return in gambling sites as if some players play bingo game and hit the jackpot and just run away then that loss will be in investment also, so i think you can not get assured income in the gambling / dice sites, it may go profit or loss also.

There can never be a fixed return other then the % of profits allocated investors. You will lose money but in the long term you will make money. If the site is making profits so will you.
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