Real or BS? THMINERS.COM realeases new 60TH Bitcoin and 1200MH Litecoin miner.

[truckinusa]

https://cointelegraph.com/news/thminers-release-2-new-cryptocurrency-miners

$3000 price tag for each.

http://thminers.com/

Only David Treeman I can find is 68 years old and located in San Diego.  

They are using minerslab photos on web page.

Another business occupies the address I believe.

Appears to be a scam

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[HagssFIN]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1640776

Seems like a scam, there is no more detailed technical specifications and only one small picture.
I would wait at least that they give one miner for a trusted member here for a review and see how this company goes.

edit:

Using the Google picture search you will realise that the "miner" in picture is the same is than the Minerslab one, so definitely a scam.

See this thread about Minerslab.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=883534.100

[leowonderful]

pretty obvious scam even if we didn't have evidence. 60ths isn't completely unreasonable, but a new company coming out of the blue, promising incredible performance. No shit it's a scam, especially when they're reusing pictures that have been used in pretty much all known mining scams.

If you're ever unsure, stick with brands you know and trust. Can't usually go wrong.

[HagssFIN]

There is now pretty much only two companies that sell real miners to the public.
Bitmain and Canaan Creative.

[truckinusa]

There is now pretty much only two companies that sell real miners to the public.
Bitmain and Canaan Creative.

I texted the number that they provide to do a little scam the scammer.  He kept calling me over and over.  Said his name was Alex.  I work night shift so I fell asleep.  Any good ideas how to have some fun?

[QuintLeo]

The "20 nm" claim is an interesting BIG RED FLAG, as 20nm tech as i recall didn't EXIST (the next step down from 28nm was 22nm, and THAT was very little to no more efficient than 28nm).


 They also claim to be "experienced" at miner design, yet they come out of the blue with this stuff.



 This has "SCAM" written in 10 foot letters all over it.,

[QuintLeo]

There is now pretty much only two companies that sell real miners to the public.
Bitmain and Canaan Creative.

 Only BitMain right now.

 Canaan should be selling something semi-soon, Innosilicon should be shipping the A4 in another week or two.

 In theory BitFury and BW.Com could but they seem to have decided to stick with sales to "industrial" level miners for the forseeable future.

[HagssFIN]

There is now pretty much only two companies that sell real miners to the public.
Bitmain and Canaan Creative.

 Actually, just Bitmain - though Canaan has announced they're working on a next-gen miner, and the Innosilicon A4 should be shipping real soon (dunno what happened to the A3 though, have heard NOTHING about that for months).

 In theory, BitFury and BW.com (LKEtc and co) could do so but they seem to be sticking with sales to "industrial" scale miners.

Canaan is selling A6's and are soon to be selling A7's to the public.

Bitfury and BW.com are only selling miners to industrial scale customers and they are also mining themselves.
Innosilicon A4 is an altcoin miner.
If we add altcoin miners into this then there is also Baikal Mini miner (X11), which I have four pcs. incoming.

I asked BW.com about the public release and at first it seemed like they were going to do it (my 1st e-mail conversation with them).
Then they suddenly cancelled and continued on the big scale road (my 2nd e-mail conversation much later after the first one).

[CoinEnthusiast]

I'm no electrician, but wouldn't you need to have 6120 ish Watts to run 60TH @ 0.102 Watt/GH? Its less efficient than antminer but boosts 600 Watts for an extra 46~ TH.

Domain registered anonymously with a phone number like 1.xxx.000000000. Is 1 month old and no announcement aside from paying news agencies to run a story which damages their credibility by acting like an ad service.

A team of experts noone knows about, fake pictures.

They have wholesale customers, but no-one has seen one of these units yet.

They don't accept bank transfers because of the amount of fraud associated with it?

Seems legit right?


Also the guy who wants to mess with them. Act like a wholesaler and say you'd like at purchasing 50,000 units but will not think about doing so without the ability to demo a unit and leave no ground to budge. I'm sure you can string them along like that.

[truckinusa]

It looks like they paid .4BTC
I emailed the boneheads at cointelegraph and I got this automated message:


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[HagssFIN]

CoinTelegraph should have some journalistic responsibility and not release all kinds of bull shit for money.

[truckinusa]

CoinTelegraph should have some journalistic responsibility and not release all kinds of bull shit for money.

I guess I am questioning their "vast experience in crypto" lol.

[leowonderful]

Considering most of these cryptocurrency blogs do this kind of stuff to make money anyways, doing your own research is more important than ever. I usually only look at smaller sites for information; they are usually less corruptible and provide more honest opinions as well as getting straight to the facts.

Coin Telegraph has been posting b.s since they've gotten this big, I'm surprised people even read it anymore.

[Shiroslullaby]

Idk how anyone could take Cointelegraph seriously after the "Monero Loses Darknet Market in Apparent Exit Scam" article
More than half of the stuff in that article was totally false, clearly FUD propaganda.
Joel Valenzuela and Cointelegraph are obviously using their platform to push their agenda and manipulate the markets towards coins they are invested in or partnered with.

[QuintLeo]

Canaan is selling A6's and are soon to be selling A7's to the public.

Bitfury and BW.com are only selling miners to industrial scale customers and they are also mining themselves.
Innosilicon A4 is an altcoin miner.
If we add altcoin miners into this then there is also Baikal Mini miner (X11), which I have four pcs. incoming.

I asked BW.com about the public release and at first it seemed like they were going to do it (my 1st e-mail conversation with them).
Then they suddenly cancelled and continued on the big scale road (my 2nd e-mail conversation much later after the first one).

 I'd forgotten about the Baikal - don't know if the other 2 X11 ASIC are still selling or not at this point, though I suspect that original one isn't as it's been blown out of the market so badly since.




 And yes, it would take about 6 KW to run a 60TH miner with the stated efficiency of their bitcoin miner.
 Not impossible - Spondoolies DID announce that SP50 with *10* or some such PS in it and may have actually built a few for private data hall(s) somewhere before they died - but NOT likely at all in a 4u form factor.

[HagssFIN]

Canaan is selling A6's and are soon to be selling A7's to the public.

Bitfury and BW.com are only selling miners to industrial scale customers and they are also mining themselves.
Innosilicon A4 is an altcoin miner.
If we add altcoin miners into this then there is also Baikal Mini miner (X11), which I have four pcs. incoming.

I asked BW.com about the public release and at first it seemed like they were going to do it (my 1st e-mail conversation with them).
Then they suddenly cancelled and continued on the big scale road (my 2nd e-mail conversation much later after the first one).

 I'd forgotten about the Baikal - don't know if the other 2 X11 ASIC are still selling or not at this point, though I suspect that original one isn't as it's been blown out of the market so badly since.




 And yes, it would take about 6 KW to run a 60TH miner with the stated efficiency of their bitcoin miner.
 Not impossible - Spondoolies DID announce that SP50 with *10* or some such PS in it and may have actually built a few for private data hall(s) somewhere before they died - but NOT likely at all in a 4u form factor.

Yeah, PinIdea Dr2 (x11 miner) is also available for the public

[toptek]

https://cointelegraph.com/news/thminers-release-2-new-cryptocurrency-miners

$3000 price tag for each.

http://thminers.com/

Only David Treeman I can find is 68 years old and located in San Diego.  

They are using minerslab photos on web page.

Another business occupies the address I believe.

Appears to be a scam

YES miner anyone ?. LMAO from one extreme to another what they won't do/try for dishonest cash .looks like they changed the name, up the hash some and added a script miner that there is no way possible can do that kind of hash sense Innosilicon is the only company right now that even brothers with making script miners with the A4 shipping this month and the best it does 280 mh right now.

the A4 does like 280 MH @ 1000 watts at the wall and they have a 1200 mh  script miner that does 830 watts you know that's gotta be wrong. maybe Innosilicon can learm a thing or two from them JK.

cya.

[veleten]

https://cointelegraph.com/news/thminers-release-2-new-cryptocurrency-miners

$3000 price tag for each.

http://thminers.com/

Only David Treeman I can find is 68 years old and located in San Diego.  

They are using minerslab photos on web page.

Another business occupies the address I believe.

Appears to be a scam

https://cointelegraph.com/news/thminers-release-2-new-cryptocurrency-miners

cointelegraph took the article down? gives me 404


from their faq:

Do you accept PayPal/Credit Cards or Bank Transfer ?

No. These methods were available earlier, unfortunatly we don’t accept PayPal/CreditCard or Bank transfer anymore due to frequently occurring fraud practices.

Can I pay cash in your office?

Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment




seems totally legit   
accept bitcoins only

[QuintLeo]

The "cash in office" refusal isn't all that uncommon. Try doing that with Bitmain, or Zoomhash, or Innosilicon, among other reputable folks selling miners.

 No Paypal is no big deal - Paypal is a RIPOFF.

 No Credit Card OR Bank Transfer is yet another BIG RED WARNING SIGN, especially when they try to link it to a "confidentiality policy".
 Yep, it's hard to keep their SCAM ARTIST confidentiality when there is a credit card or bank transfer trail to follow.

[Kuestionmark]

We thought this offer was to sweet to be real so we decided to double check.
I asked my friend from SJ to drive over there to check if THMiners really exist. He just got back to me saying there is no such company at this address

QED