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October 11, 2016, 12:47:59 AM
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That's an ok beginning for a larger company interested in Bitcoin mining, but I am curious as to whether or not they're actually going to be able to make money off of their investment rather than just break even. Having been mining for about 6 months and netting ~90BTC isn't bad, but it likely could be better. Chances are they're using this as a trial run.

spending the coins as soon as they get it = possible to break even after a year.
hoarding the coins waiting for deflation = possible profit when the fiat value of bitcoin rises

That brings me to a question. What would be the price they had in mind to release their coins to make it worth it for them and how long are they willing to wait for Bitcoin to get there? The costs of mining today are very high now and unless they are risking their own money which is unlikely, they loaned money to start their operations.

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October 11, 2016, 12:59:40 AM
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That's an ok beginning for a larger company interested in Bitcoin mining, but I am curious as to whether or not they're actually going to be able to make money off of their investment rather than just break even. Having been mining for about 6 months and netting ~90BTC isn't bad, but it likely could be better. Chances are they're using this as a trial run.

spending the coins as soon as they get it = possible to break even after a year.
hoarding the coins waiting for deflation = possible profit when the fiat value of bitcoin rises

That brings me to a question. What would be the price they had in mind to release their coins to make it worth it for them and how long are they willing to wait for Bitcoin to get there? The costs of mining today are very high now and unless they are risking their own money which is unlikely, they loaned money to start their operations.

This brings me to another question, why not mining other altcoin more profitable? So they can use the alt to buy some btc if they want to invest in especulation?
Competition is hard nowadays...
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October 11, 2016, 01:17:34 AM
Last edit: October 11, 2016, 01:35:44 AM by gentlemand
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This brings me to another question, why not mining other altcoin more profitable? So they can use the alt to buy some btc if they want to invest in especulation?
Competition is hard nowadays...

You'd need totally different machinery. I don't think there are many other alts that can be mined with a Bitcoin ASIC's architecture.

And considering how wobbly even the biggest alts can be in terms of demand and liquidity, let alone whether any of them have a future, I don't think serious investors would go for it. There probably is more money to be made but there's also a lot more risk.
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October 11, 2016, 06:13:30 AM
Last edit: October 11, 2016, 06:27:54 AM by Wind_FURY
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That's an ok beginning for a larger company interested in Bitcoin mining, but I am curious as to whether or not they're actually going to be able to make money off of their investment rather than just break even. Having been mining for about 6 months and netting ~90BTC isn't bad, but it likely could be better. Chances are they're using this as a trial run.

spending the coins as soon as they get it = possible to break even after a year.
hoarding the coins waiting for deflation = possible profit when the fiat value of bitcoin rises

That brings me to a question. What would be the price they had in mind to release their coins to make it worth it for them and how long are they willing to wait for Bitcoin to get there? The costs of mining today are very high now and unless they are risking their own money which is unlikely, they loaned money to start their operations.

This brings me to another question, why not mining other altcoin more profitable? So they can use the alt to buy some btc if they want to invest in especulation?
Competition is hard nowadays...

To answer your silly question, McAfee probably thinks that altcoins are not worth mining. You already know the answer why that is. There are already a lot of debates in the altcoin world and most of them are mentioning that most or even all of the altcoins are nothing but scams. Any serious business man who wants to enter and willing to compete in Bitcoin mining will not give 99% of all altcoins a second look.

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October 11, 2016, 01:42:24 PM
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It's funny that such a relatively small small operation is traded at the NYSE. From what I understand, the size of their mining operation will be gradually increased. Apart from getting cheap electricity another problem might be getting their hands on efficient mining hardware at all. All in all it's at least a bit of diversification in the mining landscape, that is dominated by the Chinese.

Mining is not the only activity of MGT. They've recently acquired an anti-spyware company and a file sharing provider. It will be interesting to watch how this company turns out. However it's not an investment case for me. The risk/reward ratio by just holding Bitcoin seems to be much better in my opinion.

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October 11, 2016, 01:55:25 PM
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That's an ok beginning for a larger company interested in Bitcoin mining, but I am curious as to whether or not they're actually going to be able to make money off of their investment rather than just break even. Having been mining for about 6 months and netting ~90BTC isn't bad, but it likely could be better. Chances are they're using this as a trial run.

spending the coins as soon as they get it = possible to break even after a year.
hoarding the coins waiting for deflation = possible profit when the fiat value of bitcoin rises

That brings me to a question. What would be the price they had in mind to release their coins to make it worth it for them and how long are they willing to wait for Bitcoin to get there? The costs of mining today are very high now and unless they are risking their own money which is unlikely, they loaned money to start their operations.

This brings me to another question, why not mining other altcoin more profitable? So they can use the alt to buy some btc if they want to invest in especulation?
Competition is hard nowadays...

To answer your silly question, McAfee probably thinks that altcoins are not worth mining. You already know the answer why that is. There are already a lot of debates in the altcoin world and most of them are mentioning that most or even all of the altcoins are nothing but scams. Any serious business man who wants to enter and willing to compete in Bitcoin mining will not give 99% of all altcoins a second look.

miners who are mining for money, don't care about this stuff. all the drama about altcoins being bad, scam, pump and dump,.... are for traders and drama lovers around here.

what miners look for is profit and how much money they can make, and as we can see a lot of miners are mining altcoins. and any new miner like McAfee may not be doing it in the start but they will surely do it to maximize their profit.

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October 11, 2016, 02:01:09 PM
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McAfee is a great businessman and knows how to stay relevant by supporting up and coming technology like Bitcoin. Sure he is a flamboyant douchebag like Kim Dotcom but that is a part of the product they sell, and at the end of the day they can deliver good services so let's hope this is the start of the end of the asian based mining monopoly.
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October 11, 2016, 04:42:42 PM
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miners who are mining for money, don't care about this stuff. all the drama about altcoins being bad, scam, pump and dump,.... are for traders and drama lovers around here.

That's fine if you have a shed full of GPUs. You're not going to get much enthusiasm from backers if you're buying miners by the square kilometre and leasing warehouses. These guys are either hoarding or cutting deals with OTC buyers.

I'm not so sure there are many OTC buyers for Potcoin.
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