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October 25, 2016, 03:12:38 AM
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That awesome to know you would consider it.

Zcash has a slow start from 0-full coin rewards over 100 days so there is no rush.

100 days?Huh??

Dude its 30 days.

5000 blocks * 2.5 minutes/block = 8.7 days
https://z.cash/blog/new-alpha-release-mining-slow-start.html


It was updated to 20'000 blocks in oct

https://z.cash/blog/slow-start-and-mining-ecosystem.html

Yep, a lot has changed over the course of the past year. A updated list of the finalized specifications was maintained here:  https://forum.z.cash/t/final-zcash-mining-specifications/355  if anyone cares. Wink
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October 25, 2016, 06:49:52 AM
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It's technically 20,000 blocks, which according to the 2.5 minute/block specification should take roughly 34 days. However, with the initial hash-rate projected to be very high, block generation times will probably be greatly condensed making the slow start last anywhere from 21-30 days.
Even less than 21-30. On testnet, when jtoomim bros tested their GPU setup, they found several blocks one after another in SECONDS, and that was with <5 GPUs, if I remember it correctly. When ZCash mainnet goes live, hashpower dropped on it will be incredible, so first THOUSANDS of blocks will be found very quickly, until difficulty adjusts. So, may be we'll have a week - max! - of "slow start". May be.

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October 25, 2016, 07:58:08 AM
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Doesn't difficulty adjust on every block?

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October 25, 2016, 08:17:39 AM
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It does. But there is some max value of "difficulty delta" between blocks, so it can't adjust "at once".

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October 25, 2016, 04:30:06 PM
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October 25, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
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ETH is dead end, say Hallo! to ZCash - together we conquer the Moon

Yes, yes, yes, move all your ETH machines to ZCash ASAP. Please. Cant wait for the difficulty drop on ETH.

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October 25, 2016, 05:33:19 PM
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ETH is dead end, say Hallo! to ZCash - together we conquer the Moon

Yes, yes, yes, move all your ETH machines to ZCash ASAP. Please. Cant wait for the difficulty drop on ETH.

The difficulty of the Etheruem will rise exponnetially in the next few months due to a difficulty time bomb.
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October 25, 2016, 08:53:47 PM
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It does. But there is some max value of "difficulty delta" between blocks, so it can't adjust "at once".
This is supposedly the difficulty formula, which means creating a block 4x faster than the 2.5 minute target would double the difficulty for the next block.
(next difficulty) = (last difficulty) x SQRT [ (150 seconds) / (last solve time)
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October 26, 2016, 04:12:16 AM
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If zcash doesn't flop and stay profitable,  the best optimizers in the world will make kernels for it. The only way for you to enjoy the boost is to pay a percentage fee, or a high buy in.

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October 26, 2016, 04:31:31 AM
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People are spending thousands of dollars on cloud mining, I expect the coin to do well.

I don't expect them to make money, but mining should be in a good spot again.

Even if only private farms have the most efficient kernels we will still enjoy higher profit on eth by the shift in mining power to Zcash.
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October 26, 2016, 05:47:22 AM
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If zcash doesn't flop and stay profitable,  the best optimizers in the world will make kernels for it. The only way for you to enjoy the bokst is to pay a percentage fee, or a high buy in.

Linux builds plz Sad
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October 26, 2016, 07:23:57 AM
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That awesome to know you would consider it.

Zcash has a slow start from 0-full coin rewards over 100 days so there is no rush.

100 days?Huh??

Dude its 30 days.

5000 blocks * 2.5 minutes/block = 8.7 days
https://z.cash/blog/new-alpha-release-mining-slow-start.html


It was updated to 20'000 blocks in oct

https://z.cash/blog/slow-start-and-mining-ecosystem.html

Yep, a lot has changed over the course of the past year. A updated list of the finalized specifications was maintained here:  https://forum.z.cash/t/final-zcash-mining-specifications/355  if anyone cares. Wink


FINAL zcash mining specifications
Feb 24
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Feb 25
10d ago

notsofastFeb 2411
I'd like to use this thread as a net repository or collection for the discussion of ZEC's mining specifications, so it's easy to find and parse in advance of an official statement from Zooko and the development team.

Mining algorithm: As of Zcash alpha release v0.11.2.z294, resolved in Issue #2715 the Zcash mining algorithm will be Equihash (white paper here149), a new, memory-hard, proof-of-work mining algorithm based on the generalized Birthday Problem and Wagner's algorithm for it. Equihash was created by Alex Biryukov and Dmitry Khovratovich of the University of Luxembourg.

Block time spacing/target spacing: 2.5 minutes, with 12.5 ZEC reward per block. This is as per
github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/142#issuecomment-112935618.

However, to protect against instamining and accusations of miner collusion, the zcash team has decided not to apply the above rate of emission right from the genesis block. Instead, ZEC's emission will be subject to a slow start, where the emission curve will gradually ramp up to the full emission rate of 12.5 ZEC per block over the first 20,000 blocks. If there are further adjustments to the block spacing and reward, they will be in such a way that the following equation always remains true:

{# of slow start blocks} * {full block reward} = 250000

github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/762#issuecomment-213658623

Difficulty adjustment algorithm: Digishield V3, tweaked to use the following trailing-average difficulty window:

(next difficulty) = (last difficulty) x SQRT [ (150 seconds) / (last solve time)

(as per https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/147#issuecomment-2451409084)

Difficulty adjustment period in blocks: This approximates to every block, as per the above link.

Transaction fee structure: Still TBD via wallet implementations post-1.0 protocol release. Currently exploring a privacy-safe fee selection algorithm. (IE, this won't be a critical element of the 1.0 zerocash release, and can be decided by wallet implementations later.) Assume this is negligible, in that max fees aren't material to a young network and that 0 fees can still be set if a user desires.
github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/398#issuecomment-155587212

Starting reward in ZEC per block: 12.5 ZEC per 2.5-minute spacing. As per
github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/142#issuecomment-112935618

Division of each PoW block reward between miners and zcash team:
- 80% (10 ZEC) to miners, 20% (2.5 ZEC) to zcash team, from genesis block to first halving of the block reward (approximately four years later)
- 100% to miners thereafter
- transaction fees paid 100% to miners throughout
As stated by daira below.

Reward halving period: every ~4 years, as per Bitcoin
github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/142#issuecomment-112935618

Total eventual supply: 21,000,000 (21 million), as per Bitcoin
github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/142#issuecomment-112935618

I look forward to final corrections, if any.

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October 26, 2016, 04:03:10 PM
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I look forward to final corrections, if any.

How about an addition?  It's missing the equihash parameters; k=9, n=200.
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October 28, 2016, 07:26:35 AM
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you are a good man Claymore !!!
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October 29, 2016, 08:17:08 AM
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i noticed zcash mining gpu's are not as hot as other algos...i'm sure claymore would max out these damn gpus again  Grin
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October 29, 2016, 11:37:12 AM
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It's about time for Claymore to release an AMD ZEC miner (put 2.5% dev fee, who cares). The miners available until now are utter garbage. Fuck their miner challange and everything else because only useless crap has come out of it so far.
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October 29, 2016, 12:05:32 PM
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Today I tried existing miners, I don't like their stability and speed.
Ok, I will release first version of my ZCash miner very soon. AMD only, at least for now.

Please read Readme and FAQ in the first post of this thread before asking any questions, probably the answer is already there.
List of my miners: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3019607
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October 29, 2016, 12:12:10 PM
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Today I tried existing miners, I don't like their stability and speed.
Ok, I will release first version of my ZCash miner very soon. AMD only, at least for now.

sounds great! i cant wait to try it Smiley you sir are a hero

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October 29, 2016, 12:15:48 PM
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Today I tried existing miners, I don't like their stability and speed.
Ok, I will release first version of my ZCash miner very soon. AMD only, at least for now.

Finally, you have a good amount of money to make with ZEC Smiley
Miner working with Windows or only Linux ?

Can't wait !!
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Probably windows, claymore dont like linux  Tongue
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