[ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live

[Coin_trader]

the Filipino translation of this thread is up here:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644956.0
 

[singalone]

How much for translation bounty? TY

[Tradingriver]

1. how much is coded
2. what is the roadmap


a bad sign is, that you started the crowdsale on the same day of the ANN. So no time to look into you.

[ca333]

How much for translation bounty? TY

it is in the OP: "Bounties available for translations and press articles [2500 CEAL per translation or article] - Contact us for information."

any bounty campaign dev
signature campaign facebook campaign twitter campaign
and when ico selling and use escrow or not who is handle escrow

yes we have translation and media bounties. other campaigns will added to OP.

1. how much is coded
2. what is the roadmap


a bad sign is, that you started the crowdsale on the same day of the ANN. So no time to look into you.

most of auth-related parameters have been added and Transaction class rewritten to be suitable with alias-propagation.
coinbase is adapted so there are no coins to be spent anymore in layer 1 of cealNET. network-alias is integrated and duplicate detection upon net-propagation.
GUI is missing. At the moment i do all in shell.

layer 4 - cealtokens blockparameters have been generated and declared. GUI work in progress.

but you can check this all alone in couple days. I will put on github this week. and roadmap is in work.

[GarethBaleRM]

Translation bounty looks low, you have millions of bounty pool, but only 2500 for translation.   

[Machman]

Looks like an interesting project. Good luck.

Agreed, got my eyes open

[electronicash]

if there is a bounty for publishing articles about ceal.io, I'd definitely publish more than 1 article for it.
if you guys consider this, please update the OP for that is what most of us will read for the updates of the development.

[ca333]

if there is a bounty for publishing articles about ceal.io, I'd definitely publish more than 1 article for it.
if you guys consider this, please update the OP for that is what most of us will read for the updates of the development.

yes we have bounties for publishing articles (2500 CEAL per article). information is in OP. we will double all bounties claimed in the first week.

[tomboi]

if there is a bounty for publishing articles about ceal.io, I'd definitely publish more than 1 article for it.
if you guys consider this, please update the OP for that is what most of us will read for the updates of the development.

yes we have bounties for publishing articles (2500 CEAL per article). information is in OP. we will double all bounties claimed in the first week.

Any bounty for social med like facebook or twitter dev?
thank you

[drays]

80% are going to be distributed to the crowd-funders in proportional relation of their support.
10% will be split among early-adopters (of the first 3 days) proportional to their investment amount .

What does it mean? Those 3 days have already started? Why do you want to attract everybody to collect in the first 3 days? Typically this is done in short-term projects, to create rush... Why do you need it?

Also, please give an example. If I invest today, I fall into both categories (crowd-funders and early-adopters), so will I get share both from those 10%, and from another 80%? Or the 80% are reserved for those who invest after 3 days?

If you invest today you will be a backer + early bird. This is the benefit for the people who support us from the very beginning. This is only for the first three days. After that supporters get the 80% reserve.

Example: You back the project today. Yout get the proportional amount from the 80% (which is calculated at the end of the crowdfund) + you get the proportional amount of the 10%. This 10% will be shared between all "early-birds".

Thanks a lot, that's clear and full explanation.

But you missed my another question above - why do you create such rush? 10% of supply is very big amount, and only few backers with insider knowledge could fully trust and invest in 3 days (which is extremally short period to understand the legitimacy of the project for a unrelated person).
From the other hand, many scam coins are using this approach to draw more funds from greedy people, who prefer to invest in something hyped without understanding the real value of the project.

In both cases, such reward structure is not good, and raised suspicions. Why did you choose such small timeframe?

you are welcome. We wanted to provide the early backers some sort of benefit and to get the crowdfund rolling. We did not want to raise suspicions. We might widen the timeframe to couple more days. Would this be better? But like said - we want the early supporters to get a little bigger reward.

Yes, I a wider timeframe would be much more appropriate. I agree it is good to have a bonus for early supporters to attract them and in general to make people invest earlier (as other guy also pointed here), but I cannot agree someone could make justified conclusion in 1 hour or 1 day with so much information missing at the moment (escrow issues, need to make team more visible, need to make some code available etc, so people could make some reasonable assessment). Given all that, 3 days is too short period. It is more of a time period for gamblers, not early supporters

I suppose 1 week could be much more reasonable.

[Viviyang]

Hello, the translation is now completed

Here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1646710.new#new


So we will get double coins for first week for bounty, right??

So that means 5000 CEAL for translation in first week

[vanarebane]

Hello, the translation is now completed

Here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1646710.new#new


So we will get double coins for first week for bounty, right??

So that means 5000 CEAL for translation in first week

If it is 5000 ceal, that will be cool, really dev?

[danishcookie]

Danish translation:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1646729 

[mishax1]

Threw in a few satoshis..   lets see where this goes. 

[drays]

Ceal is a decentralized blockchain and libtorrent-based network designed for information sharing, especially for freedom of expression and freedom of opinion.
Nowadays cencorship is the major threat related to the freedom of speech/opinion. As a result of technological and political circumstances it is possible to quieten people and to prevent them from sharing their thoughts/ideas especially questioning/critical statements.

Doesn't STEEM already solve the censorship issues by providing all the data in the immutable blockchain? What is the advantages of your approach?

On another topic:
The whitepaper is so abstract, really... I don't feel somebody has dedicated considerable effort to think this out from top to bottom, not even speaking of going into the details. It looks like the implementation is very far from being really started, as during coding, every single detail has to be 100% understood and accounted for. One cannot actually code while having only such abstract ideas.

Maybe I am wrong. But everything looks to be seriously raw here. Unless more details are provided (actual code and/or more detailed paper) I am personally not inclined to invest here.

[jangancabul]

Threw in a few satoshis..   lets see where this goes. 

interesting, when mainnet release?
im waiting roadmap

[vanarebane]

What is the signature bounty pool? And any more stake information?

[ca333]

Threw in a few satoshis..   lets see where this goes. 

thank you for your participation!

Ceal is a decentralized blockchain and libtorrent-based network designed for information sharing, especially for freedom of expression and freedom of opinion.
Nowadays cencorship is the major threat related to the freedom of speech/opinion. As a result of technological and political circumstances it is possible to quieten people and to prevent them from sharing their thoughts/ideas especially questioning/critical statements.

Doesn't STEEM already solve the censorship issues by providing all the data in the immutable blockchain? What is the advantages of your approach?

On another topic:
The whitepaper is so abstract, really... I don't feel somebody has dedicated considerable effort to think this out from top to bottom, not even speaking of going into the details. It looks like the implementation is very far from being really started, as during coding, every single detail has to be 100% understood and accounted for. One cannot actually code while having only such abstract ideas.

Maybe I am wrong. But everything looks to be seriously raw here. Unless more details are provided (actual code and/or more detailed paper) I am personally not inclined to invest here.

as far as i can tell and iirc steem is storing textcontent in the blockchain. i personally think storing "big" data in the blockchain is not a good idea, so agree some of my developer-collegues.

Our approach is very different and will use torrent-network, based on a scheme such as kademilla for storing the data. I will happy to explain you more, based on codes we are releasing this week. It will contain a lot of our base-work, which i think, will clear questions.

[DeadBirdzz]

Are the funds raised by the early adopters escrowed or going directly to you?

[ca333]

Threw in a few satoshis..   lets see where this goes. 

interesting, when mainnet release?
im waiting roadmap

roadmap is in work.

What is the signature bounty pool? And any more stake information?

Instruction for signature-campaign participation is beeing prepared by kwest. It will be published soon.

Are the funds raised by the early adopters escrowed or going directly to you?

I am waiting for escrow partner to get online and send me instructions for the escrow. So everybody will have the chance to be early bird and participate in the 3d timeframe.