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October 14, 2016, 09:12:27 AM
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Hey everyone!

My name is Oleg, I'm programmer. I am and my friends are developing Bitcoin Bank Software allows to provide classic banking services for bitcoin. We're starting to invite future bitcoin bankers to discuss the possibilities of partnership.

"Starting" means the software is under construction; BBank demo will be fully available at the end of october-start of november'2016. At that time we want to be agreed with 5...8 potential bankers about their interest. Anyway, potential bankers can ask us to show some demo features right now: bitcoin bank core and some UIs are ready.

"Classic banking services" means: online deposits, online loans, individual/business/merchant accounts, leverage loans for trading, private banking services, confidential bankig services, debit/credit cards, currency exchange + some features for investment banking and trading + some features for venture funds/business angels + legal solutions for banking and non-banking law entities. All banking processes are automated; if you need you can operate them manually.

If you want to become a bitcoin banker you need operating capital (for marketing, advertising and making the initial profit) + pay for servers. Also you need to be sure you can manage your own bank. We will adapt banking software for your business plan and install onto your servers without down payment, but we want to get a share of the profit  of your bank.

Our website: http://bbank.pro

p.s. Also we invite agents for the permanent shares of the profit.
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October 14, 2016, 09:54:49 AM
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Nobody will take this offer seriously. It looks very much like you are in way over your head at best and like a simple confidence scam at worst.

Perhaps it's a bit harsh to say, but why would anyone even consider purchasing a $1,000,000 software package from someone that cannot use proper English on their website?
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October 14, 2016, 10:04:19 AM
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"Banking" and "Bitcoin" will never get along. Bitcoin is all about being your own bank and having control over your money (private keys) , no one is going to use a third part website to store his coins . If your website become successful ,that will make it the first target for hacking ... so yeah.. probably not a good idea.

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October 14, 2016, 10:28:20 AM
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Nobody will take this offer seriously. It looks very much like you are in way over your head at best and like a simple confidence scam at worst.

Perhaps it's a bit harsh to say, but why would anyone even consider purchasing a $1,000,000 software package from someone that cannot use proper English on their website?

English is not a mandatory skill set dude,if he has programming skills he could probably able to use his skill set to be successful ,i have not seen the price tag nor i dont know if it will be successful .

despite all this i have a simple doubt if the OP claims that this is a successful business model why dont you start you own bank and then lease the software later on ,that way you could have doubled your profit Wink.

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October 14, 2016, 10:31:52 AM
Last edit: October 14, 2016, 12:17:30 PM by bbankpro
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1) yes, English is problem. English isn't native language. Please help us (((
2) please do not misinterpret our offer. $1m is for licensed bank, and services can provide not just licensed bank. and our basic offer is participation in the profit.
3) if you know, nobody pay for software before testing. especially banking software.

We developed a software and looking for entrepreneur who will open bank. So, we dont ask a money before bank opened and become profitable.


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1) for example, https://indacoin.com/ ask 30% for exchange. 30%!!! and others do so. I think, it's too hard price for freedom.
2) today bitcoin is a bubble because people are simply buy and sell. it. bitcoin will never be presented in real economy, for example, in online shops, because entrepreneurs needs a real currencies to buy goods (customers pay for bitcoin 30% + entrepreneur pays the same - do you think your idea about 'i am my own bank' strongly that entrepreneur's interests?). creating banks, we're trying to make bitcoin the cost-effective currency
3) I don' know what is your real currency; maybe you have USD, maybe EUR, maybe RUR, maybe CHF, or JPY. Is your leather wallet your bank? really? Fact is: while you have bitcoin, you not make a profit. You will lose your money when change to your currency. You can think that the growing currency rate can save you. No! Exchange platforms will take your money.

We're trying to make effective financial market; with banks, you will have a stable currency rate; platforms will gain their money with banks on leverage trading and high trading volume; you can put your bitcoin to your wallet, or you can put it to deposit and get an interest; if you want to open business, you can take a loan in bitcoin.

Nobody ask you refuse bitcoin's direct transfer; but, can you today buy a new car or house for bitcoin, or can you pay for gasoline for the car?
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October 14, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
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why dont you start you own bank

I'm programmer, not a banker. I cannot manage the bank and I think everybody have to do what he can do good.

The next, I want to make a banking system. A single bank cannot solve all bitcoin problems.

For example, I want the bitcoin will be a regular payment currency in the US, EU, China, Japan, Russia, India etc. It's a huge task for a single bank. We need many banks; calculating the current disposition of the banking market, we need 5-8 banks at the start; totally the world market can provide a space for 25.000-28.000 banks.
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October 14, 2016, 10:41:13 AM
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"Banking" and "Bitcoin" will never get along. Bitcoin is all about being your own bank and having control over your money (private keys) , no one is going to use a third part website to store his coins . If your website become successful ,that will make it the first target for hacking ... so yeah.. probably not a good idea.
Bitcoin and banking should never go together but some could argue that companies like Coinbase, Circle and a few other online wallets that don't provide you with your own private keys are already a new type of bitcoin bank.

The only difference between a normal bank and one of the companies above is that they don't insure your funds, neither does the government and you can't get credit from them so at the end of the day they kind of defeat the purpose of using bitcoin
But people are especially lazy and want the easy setup these companies offer, these are the people that always learn the hard way.

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October 14, 2016, 10:51:47 AM
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"Banking" and "Bitcoin" will never get along. Bitcoin is all about being your own bank and having control over your money (private keys) , no one is going to use a third part website to store his coins . If your website become successful ,that will make it the first target for hacking ... so yeah.. probably not a good idea.

A question is not about the storage; while bitcoin is the speculative object, new peoples are pay for a part of bubble. Bitcoin NEEDS to be based on real goods and services. Wallets and trading platforms cannot do it. A single individuals and entrepreneurs too. We need a financial system.
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October 14, 2016, 11:13:59 AM
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English is not a mandatory skill set dude,if he has programming skills he could probably able to use his skill set to be successful ,i have not seen the price tag nor i dont know if it will be successful .

Speaking English well may not be a mandatory skill for a successful programmer–as bbankpro may very well be–but it is most definitely expected of a company wanting to sell banking software to an international market. A serious developer that does not speak English well need only hire someone that does. But if he does not value his product enough to do that, why would anyone else? It reflects poorly on one's credibility.
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October 14, 2016, 11:25:52 AM
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About English )))

- not a question. Become our partner and solve this problem.
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October 14, 2016, 04:32:50 PM
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If you succeed that would be something new. Bitcoin and banking are not the two terms that go along very well but let's see how this would look like. Would you provide just Bitcoin wallets and exchange or also Bitcoin debit cards (maybe also credit cards?), savings accounts, loans and other products?

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October 14, 2016, 04:56:52 PM
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First bitcoin banks will start with exchange, individual/corporate accounts ( = "wallets"  Smiley ), saving accounts, deposits, individual/corporate loans, merchant accounts and leverage loans; the next steps will be debit and credit cards, private banking services and investment banking.

A question about exchange must be discussed with bictoin bankers. My point is the bank should buy and sell large volumes of currency in cooperation with currency stock exchange.
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October 14, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
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If I understood Bitcoin correctly (not sure - maybe someone can help me out there), then

with bitcoin, you are already your own bank


It may be a rumor, but from what I also heard, was, that with Bitcoin you can create as many accounts as you like.

In fact so many, that if you piled up the atoms of bodies of all unemployed programmers and put each on an address, there still would be empty accounts.


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October 14, 2016, 05:03:18 PM
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I wrote to you in private, please contact me
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October 14, 2016, 05:14:02 PM
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If I understood Bitcoin correctly (not sure - maybe someone can help me out there), then

with bitcoin, you are already your own bank


It may be a rumor, but from what I also heard, was, that with Bitcoin you can create as many accounts as you like.

In fact so many, that if you piled up the atoms of bodies of all unemployed programmers and put each on an address, there still would be empty accounts.


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Sir)) you have your bitcoins in the wallet. what interest you can take? if you have 1 BTC, 1 year later your wallet will contain 1 BTC. If you put money in the bank, your account will increase to 1,15 BTC, for example. Also, where you can take a loan? From another your account? of course you can do without borrowings Smiley

Try read https://bitcoin.org/en/innovation - please read sections 'Global accessibility' and 'Trust and integrity'. Bitcoin extends and complements the banking system, not breaks it down.
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October 14, 2016, 05:57:53 PM
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Hey everyone!

My name is Oleg, I'm programmer. I am and my friends are developing Bitcoin Bank Software allows to provide classic banking services for bitcoin. We're starting to invite future bitcoin bankers to discuss the possibilities of partnership.
I should have stopped reading literally after this part but since you're a "programmer" I continued.Mate,we hate banks,speakin of the bitcoin community,you shouldn't be proud to use that word anywhere around regardless of however it was intended. (jokes only)

"Starting" means the software is under construction; BBank demo will be fully available at the end of october-start of november'2016. At that time we want to be agreed with 5...8 potential bankers about their interest. Anyway, potential bankers can ask us to show some demo features right now: bitcoin bank core and some UIs are ready.
How does that separate you from traditional banking services ? Tell me you give anonymous loans to bitcoin lenders without verifying their documents,we could have further discussions then. Wink
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October 14, 2016, 06:25:16 PM
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you hate banks unless you haven't your own bank Cheesy

Previously I gave answers about banks; that's my point.

Still nobody answered me on the subject. Everybody hate banks, but I am sure, today you will go to bar and you will pay for beer by your credit card emitted by BoA or Citibank etc. So don't tell me about you hate; say, what you do to make the bitcoin effective currency; I make a financial system. My job will take a bitcoin into shops and bars and you will pay for beer from your lovely account; maybe you will not pay for transactions. Your private interests are not interested. I am interested to shops and bars who need their business account to serve you.

p.s. may I ask a question? Why you do not hate exchanges? Bitcoin exchanges and payment systems (and banks too) together are robbed you when you change bitcoins to usd. And when you buy bitcoin, too. Or do you think that bitcoin falls from the sky for everybody?
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October 14, 2016, 06:31:17 PM
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you hate banks unless you haven't your own bank Cheesy
Why would I like to borrow money from myself ? And pay interest too? Explain,"your own bank".

Still nobody answered me on the subject. Everybody hate banks, but I am sure, today you will go to bar and you will pay for beer by your credit card emitted by BoA or Citibank etc. So don't tell me about you hate; say, what you do to make the bitcoin effective currency; I make a financial system. My job will take a bitcoin into shops and bars and you will pay for beer from your lovely account; maybe you will not pay for transactions. Your private interests are not interested. I am interested to shops and bars who need their business account to serve you.
Or we can use one of the existing bitcoin debit cards which can be refilled using bitcoins and they are accepted in most of the shops/bars.You could take even money out of the ATM's with it,very less service charges I may add.Do you still thinkk your product is better?
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October 14, 2016, 06:33:36 PM
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You don't need a bank when you use bitcoin.

Banks are history.

However if one decides to become a bank, he only needs an internet connection and a safe computer with a btc wallet. Nothing else.

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October 14, 2016, 06:34:52 PM
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Do you think that banking role is ended on debit cards??

Did you calculate all fees on Bitcoin debit card? For example: https://cryptopay.me or https://bitpay.com:
1% charge + $2.50 ATM transaction + spread. How much money you lose?

Bitcoin bank should reduce fees and currency spread. Yes, I think that banking system, if the banking system is operating properly, is better then your charged card. Card's emitter can't operate cards cheaper then bank because he paid for bank account. Let's remember about high volatility of bitcoin - and you will never see BTC symbol on the price in the bar. Bitcoin banking system can change it.
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