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October 14, 2016, 09:44:19 AM
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In Germany, there are a lot of freedoms people have that they don’t have in other countries. For example, you can gang-rape women and not be punished.

You’re also allowed to grope women and beat old people on trains – now that’s a big freedom.

At the same time, elderly women get sentenced to prison for thinking the wrong thoughts about historical events.

So it’s really give and take.

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An 87-year-old long-time right-wing extremist has been sentenced to jail once again for making statements denying the Holocaust.

Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel, 87, has been sentenced by a district court in Bad Oeynhausen, North Rhine-Westphalia, to 11 months imprisonment without parole, Süddeutsche Zeitung reported on Tuesday.
http://www.dailystormer.com/germany-87-year-old-woman-going-back-to-prison-for-denying-nonsensical-jew-lampshade-hoax/

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In Germany you can gang-rape women and not be punished.
germany under the control of ISIS or what as i am hearing this for the first time  Undecided

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You’re also allowed to grope women and beat old people on trains

@Andrew Anglin the author of this article is either man raped or groped inside a train ,he is having so much hatred towards germany
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October 14, 2016, 08:12:24 PM
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Shoarnaque, how I like to call it in French, is still going strong. Here is a bunch of truth I found the other day : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUIo0VoPl7U.

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October 14, 2016, 08:36:47 PM
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Touchy subject, especially in Germany.
If any of you are interested in some revision related documentary (and some other intriguing story's) I can direct you to this YouTube vid.
A cinematic portrait of the life and career of the infamous American execution device designer and holocaust denier Fred A. Leuchter, Jr.
To be honest it slightly blow my mind, back in the day...

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October 15, 2016, 06:09:35 AM
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This granny went to prison for not believing a zionist version of history. I think prison is a way to keep the truth from getting out.

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October 15, 2016, 07:48:21 AM
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she is an old lady and she might be delusional other than what can i say, there are still people out there who went through this horrific time and some of the children who survived at the time are still alive and they are living proof .
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October 15, 2016, 09:25:51 AM
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she is an old lady and she might be delusional other than what can i say, there are still people out there who went through this horrific time and some of the children who survived at the time are still alive and they are living proof .

I agree, she is already old and she should be free for some humanitarian reasons. She may have a different ideas to them or she is wrong but we need to respect her as an old and weak.She should be with her family in her last days.


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October 15, 2016, 02:46:04 PM
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she is an old lady and she might be delusional other than what can i say, there are still people out there who went through this horrific time and some of the children who survived at the time are still alive and they are living proof .

I totally agree.  She is already old and that experience cannot be easily forgotten.  Our grandparents and all the old people do not have any means to relieve stress and bad memories.  They do not have any people to talk to or to share those experience.  Those times do not have psychiatrist or psychologist to help those victims.

And come one, seriously?  She is already at the last days of her life.  Putting her behind bars is so unreasonable.  I think.
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October 15, 2016, 09:08:26 PM
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she is an old lady and she might be delusional other than what can i say, there are still people out there who went through this horrific time and some of the children who survived at the time are still alive and they are living proof .

I totally agree.  She is already old and that experience cannot be easily forgotten.  Our grandparents and all the old people do not have any means to relieve stress and bad memories.  They do not have any people to talk to or to share those experience.  Those times do not have psychiatrist or psychologist to help those victims.

And come one, seriously?  She is already at the last days of her life.  Putting her behind bars is so unreasonable.  I think.

putting an old lady behind bars is really an unreasonable judgement and that too for her views rather than her actions,she would have being taken for a therapy rather than a jail sentence
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I do not understand why people are so intent on denying reality. There are no reason to doubt the Holocaust. The historic evidence is overwhelming and the policy of exterminating ones enemies follows logically from Nazi ideology.

The Nazi's lost the war because they were evil and evil tends to self destruct. If Hitler had given Ukraine independence instead of brutally subjugating it and worked to build a White Russian liberation army out of his 4 million soviet prisoners of war from Operation Barbarossa Nazi Germany while limiting his territorial ambitions on the Russian heartland he would have had a shot at winning the war and destroying the USSR. However, such actions are incompatible with the Nazi ideology which viewed the Jews as a poisonous race and the Slavic peoples as a race of slaves in need of a master. The USSR was pretty evil too so it takes something really special to make them into good guys.

Nazi Germany did its very best to exterminate all its enemies military and civilian. Between June 1941 and January 1942, when the Germans killed an estimated 2.8 million Soviet POWs primarily through starvation. The entire German assault on Russia in Operation Barbarossa included only 4.5 million men which was around 80% of the German army at the time. For the average Russian Stalin was a horror but the Nazi's offered them only extermination and death in his place.

Russia had no choice it was either fight for continued existence or surrender and face death and slavery. A people with nothing to lose will fight to the death. This is what allowed a Russian army inferior in every way to ground down and crush the Germans with sheer numbers and blood. The best documentary on WW2 that I have seen is a soviet one tells the story of world war two from a Russian perspective (link below).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhXKlYnSWjA

The Nazi's were very good at killing their enemies. They did the best they could to kill every Jewish person in the world. They killed about 40%. They also did their best to wipe out the Russians 12.5% of Russians were killed in WW2 and even 16.5% of the Ukrainians who were largely opposed to the soviet union and initially greeted the Germans as liberators. The tremendous casualties in Ukraine (which could have been a Nazi ally) highlight the insanity of the the regime and the inevitability of their defeat.

Given the Nazi's view that this was an existential struggle and their views that the Jews were poison and the Slavs rebellious subhuman slaves mass extermination and oppression is the logical policy. It is the result of a grossly twisted worldview.

Here is a link to a speech given by Hitler describing his reasons for invading Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hYDx2LtLv4

He believed the Soviet Union was a threat to Nazi Germany and he was probably right about that.

However, the Nazi's also believed that strength alone gives one the right to to exterminate and dominate others. That is was acceptable to conquer and exterminate another people to make living space for ones own people. It is this lack of morality that leads them to the very policies that result in their inevitable defeat.

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October 16, 2016, 06:53:31 AM
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i dont understand german officials mindset.. they set rapists , murderrers, assaulters free but they arrested an innocent old woman beacuse of her ideas on holocaust.. that is totall loas of shit.. europeans are always bragging about their modern stuff like freedom speech but i dont see any freedom of speech in that case.. that is total bullshit..
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October 16, 2016, 10:50:26 AM
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i dont understand german officials mindset.. they set rapists , murderrers, assaulters free but they arrested an innocent old woman beacuse of her ideas on holocaust.. that is totall loas of shit.. europeans are always bragging about their modern stuff like freedom speech but i dont see any freedom of speech in that case.. that is total bullshit..

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Ever since Angela Merkel became the chancellor, press and individual freedom has become a thing of the past. Just a few months back, comedian Jan Böhmermann was detained for reciting an obscene poem about Merkel's boyfriend (Recep Tayyip Erdoğan). I am still wondering why the people of Germany are not rioting against this evil hag.

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October 16, 2016, 11:02:17 AM
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Ever since Angela Merkel became the chancellor, press and individual freedom has become a thing of the past.
The laws in question are from 1985, 1992, 2002 & 2005, Merkel became chancellor later that year.

Just a few months back, comedian Jan Böhmermann was detained for reciting an obscene poem about Merkel's boyfriend (Recep Tayyip Erdoğan).
No he wasn't, all charges against him have been dropped.

Ewh, disgusting. And that title for this thread. Go be a nazi somewhere else, I've heard Argentinia is nice.


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Haven't nearly all the Germans supported their commander in WWII, she just got punished because of talking about it. Doing it just fine but talking about it no no no. Big crime. At least she had the balls to talk about it. The others supported him (you know who he is) while everything was going well but after the war they become against him. That's called, hyposcrisy.




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