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October 15, 2016, 10:57:27 PM
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The Iraqi army says it is ready to begin the ultimate push to liberate Mosul from the Takfiri Daesh terror group amid Baghdad’s tensions with Ankara over its military presence in the Arab country’s north.

Reports on Friday said the forces were assuming position ahead the final assault, while Chief of Staff of the Army First Lieutenant General Othman al-Ghanemi said the troops were awaiting the go-ahead.

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October 16, 2016, 08:31:36 AM
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Let Putin not much rejoicing. Today, the American troops began in Mosul military operation. Iraq there the victory is not shining. Baghdad lasted 3 days everything will be even faster
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October 16, 2016, 08:45:25 AM
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I wonder whether it comes to open confrontation in Syria between Russia and America. Had not with Putin to negotiate, and the time to arm the rebels to shoot down Russian planes like flies.
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October 16, 2016, 09:25:06 AM
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Now maybe the Russians will begin to publish the mounted photos how evil Americans are committing atrocities in Mosul. Only their lying propaganda on anyone not already in effect.
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October 16, 2016, 09:29:35 AM
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So many oil resources there. It not a surprise people fighting each other to death because of this. They say they are fighting against ISIS to save Mosul and... who put ISIS there in the first place?

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October 16, 2016, 09:34:40 AM
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What's so surprising? Everyone has their own interests. First destroy the terrorists and secondly the increase in oil production will lead to lower her prices. Everyone will benefit from it. In addition, it will weaken Russia.
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October 16, 2016, 09:53:49 AM
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Personally I want to see the drop in gasoline prices at the pump. Then I'll be able to draw conclusions. Now for me this war is not clear.
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October 16, 2016, 10:25:41 AM
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So many oil resources there. It not a surprise people fighting each other to death because of this. They say they are fighting against ISIS to save Mosul and... who put ISIS there in the first place?

I don't think that things are so simple here.
Mosul is not part of Kurdistan and there are not Russian, Syrian or any other armies there, only regular Iraqi army with t he help from USA.
In Syria is much more complicated situation, with a lot groups which fight among themselves and together against Assad and ISIS.
It's question really iif Syria will survive as united country.
In Iraq situation is more simple and when regular army take over Mosul again, Iraq will be liberated from the ISIS.
Oil resources?
American oil companies took it already long time ago.
Who put ISIS there in the first place?
Nobody directly but American policy in this area is indirectly responsible for such outcome.
 

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October 16, 2016, 10:44:07 AM
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Really not so simple. Then explain why Europeans do not want to close the coast of Syria and not to let out any boat with migrants? It would be cheaper than to place them on its territory.
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October 16, 2016, 11:05:23 AM
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Personally I want to see the drop in gasoline prices at the pump. Then I'll be able to draw conclusions. Now for me this war is not clear.

Even if the ISIS loses Mosul, it won't have any effect on the crude oil prices. Most of the oil fields in Iraq are under the control of the government or the Kurds. The ISIS-controlled oil fields are all located in the Eastern part of Syria. Still, it is difficult to predict the impact, if they lose these fields. The supply may increase, resulting in lower prices.
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October 16, 2016, 11:24:38 AM
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I don't think 30 thousand American soldiers are now storming Mosul for no reason. I hope the fruits of their victory will benefit the whole world. God forbid them to stay alive! But in the victory I have no doubt.
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October 18, 2016, 03:45:43 PM
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October 18, 2016, 04:18:49 PM
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I find it a little bit strange that the invasion has been carefully laid out and updated in the media for several weeks. I thought it customary to have a tiny element in surprise.
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October 18, 2016, 07:41:32 PM
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I find it a little bit strange that the invasion has been carefully laid out and updated in the media for several weeks. I thought it customary to have a tiny element in surprise.
Agreed. There's been talk of the west ushering jihadis out of Mosul and back into parts of Syria to fight against Assad. Then, the US coalition can claim victory in Iraq (against ISIS) in the lead to the upcoming election and diminish Trump's assertions about Obama's/Hillary's foreign policy issues that have fostered jihadi strength.

The whole deal in Syria is because Assad wouldn't go for Qatar building an oil pipeline up through Syria and into Turkey to directly supply oil/nat gas into Europe and cutting off the Russian's current supply in full. Qatar and other gulf states are heavily invested in the Clinton Foundation don't cha know.
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October 19, 2016, 05:42:09 PM
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I find it a little bit strange that the invasion has been carefully laid out and updated in the media for several weeks. I thought it customary to have a tiny element in surprise.

This "fight against the ISIS" by the NATO and the other western armies is more of a media PR operation than a real military invasion. The Americans probably want to divert the media attention from their arms deliveries to the Jaysh al Islam and other Islamist groups, and their bombing of the secular forces in Deir Azzor.
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October 20, 2016, 07:00:02 PM
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Long ago I had to do it. As soon as the aircraft starts to fall, the war on the civilian population cease. Russia can fight only with unarmed people.
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October 20, 2016, 07:16:34 PM
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Can't the militants there to hold out for long. I think that the same thing is that Russia will do in Aleppo. The question is then what?
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October 20, 2016, 07:57:45 PM
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Mosul will not last long. That's just where then leave by the militants. In the desert there is nowhere to hide. The only cover for them is a city.
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October 21, 2016, 08:48:24 AM
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What's so surprising? Everyone has their own interests. First destroy the terrorists and secondly the increase in oil production will lead to lower her prices. Everyone will benefit from it. In addition, it will weaken Russia.

It is irritating to have so many alt-accounts (Seccerius,d-trixx, 00hash01.etc) by the same person posting in succession. In this same thread we have another set of slightly older alt-accounts (More than a dozen by the same person: dimonchik13, birareru1988, daiyuba1971.etc). Please don't post consecutive posts. It is quite irritating.

Long ago I had to do it. As soon as the aircraft starts to fall, the war on the civilian population cease. Russia can fight only with unarmed people.

NATO fighter jets are bombing civilians in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Libya. Their allies are killing thousands of civilians in countries such as Yemen by using cluster bombs. And still you are accusing the Russians?
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October 21, 2016, 08:53:10 AM
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This is for you in Holguin told? Your attempt to justify Russia irritates the world. You all will be accused of collusion?
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