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[philipma1957]

Did not happen to know that it was possible to steal open source code 

They took the code which is legal.

But they then labeled it incorrectly.

When you take open source code you need to tell people that is what you are using.

Or at the very least tell people it is modified open source code.

But as I said it is difficult to see the split between ck and Kano play out.

[jonnybravo0311]

The problem, tubexc, is in that little footer.  The licensing of ckpool clearly gives the right to use.  However, the usage of the code does not give the user the right to claim credit for it - especially in the form of a copyright.  By claiming a copyright, you are claiming you have created the work.  These guys most certainly did not create the work - ck and kano did.

I also suggest you take a look at the GPLv3, under which ckpool code is licensed.  In a nutshell, you must leave intact any copyrights.

So, these guys have wrongly taken credit for work they did not do, and have violated the license of the underlying code by removing the appropriate copyrights.

[philipma1957]

The problem, tubexc, is in that little footer.  The licensing of ckpool clearly gives the right to use.  However, the usage of the code does not give the user the right to claim credit for it - especially in the form of a copyright.  By claiming a copyright, you are claiming you have created the work.  These guys most certainly did not create the work - ck and kano did.

I also suggest you take a look at the GPLv3, under which ckpool code is licensed.  In a nutshell, you must leave intact any copyrights.

So, these guys have wrongly taken credit for work they did not do, and have violated the license of the underlying code by removing the appropriate copyrights.

Nice clear explanation thanks.

[Biffa]

Did not happen to know that it was possible to steal open source code  

They took the code which is legal.

But they then labeled it incorrectly.

When you take open source code you need to tell people that is what you are using.

Or at the very least tell people it is modified open source code.

But as I said it is difficult to see the split between ck and Kano play out.

Phil this pool has nothing to do with ck/kano split. The MLM scam referenced there is BitClub pool not this one.

These guys are just using ckpool (by -ck) and ckdb (by kano) which is perfectly fine as its open source, but then they have taken kano's web front end to the db and removed all reference to him from the web code and replaced it with their own.

That being said, it appears the only web page left or that they used from kano's code is http://gbminers.com/index.php?k=blocks which you can compare to https://kano.is/index.php?k=blocks

Think thats it.

[edit]

Johhnybravo, not sure thats quite accurate, we don't know they have removed reference to the authors from the codebase of either ckpool or ckdb thats running, we can't see that really, all we can see is they removed reference to kano's copywrite on the web pages they used (

[jonnybravo0311]

Ah, but they did.  Changing the footer to claim copyright directly and blatantly removed reference to the authors in the codebase.  The front end code is included, and that code has the following:

Code:

$foot .= 'Copyright © Kano 2014';

That is part of the pgfoot function definition, and is included in the construction of the web pages.

[VRobb]

Yeah, pretty fuckin' chump move no matter how you slice it.

[wmabern]

Wmabern, by your conversation I think that you must be one of the lucky few to whom the kano gave a bitcoin miner for free  

That was truly one of the funniest thing I've read here on the forum in along time! LOL  
Thanks for the laugh, Seriously!

If even the THOUGHT of giving me an Avalon entered Kano's head - which I'm pretty positive it NEVER did - then I would be that much farther along in my process of obtaining one in the not too distant future. But that is the thing fantasies are made from.

(I've pulled my three old S7's out of hibernation to heat a couple rooms in the front of the house. Those join my four S8's - even though the S9's are in a room by themselves only heating the outdoor air.)

All I did was stand up for Kano's rights as a developer to not have his work copied then claimed as being the their own work. There are only a few things I hate worse than a thief.  

I would stand up for anyone's rights. You don' have be "powerful", wealthy, or have some pull of some sort. All anyone must do is be in the right to get my support. Kano is right to be pissed off GBminers at the way they procured his copyrighted and very valuable product. I think it is amazing that such a well-done and quality piece of software is out there as open-sources.
All anyone has to do to use it is to give credit to the developer you put their blood, swaeet and tears into making such a quality product.
All the SOB's had to do was LEAVE Kano's copyright mark alone and all would be fine. Instead these people blatantly replaced the valid copyright with their OWN worthless and meaningless copyright.

That makes me ILL.
I hope I'm not the only one who finds this wrong.

Now, Kano, about that Avalon....  

Best wishes ya'll and keep on mining!!

p.s. I will be moving my "huge" amount oh hash back to Kano in the next couple hours when I have some easy access to my miners. Going to be suporrting the little guy again with what little hash rate I do have.
My suggestions to all, PLEASE SUPPORT the UNDERDOGS!!!
Good luck to all!!!
Let's GO BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RAIN DOWN on the KANOIANS!!  

[Saint-loup]

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Hello sir
Why don't you signal bip91 please?
Bip91 will fail to activate in time and BTC will split because of you.
Could you explain us your position?

[Saint-loup]

GB Miners is signaling BIP91 now. 

https://www.xbt.eu

Thank you

[mengy]

Hello Miners,

has anyone else mined with GBminers ? They seem to have a fair amount of hash power, but lots of reports of scams and non payment.

They are using kano's code and rebadged it.  Their support is non existent and some reports of payouts not happening.

I threw a miner onto it and reached the 0.01 BTC payout threshold, but no payment so I've stopped mining with them.

Just like to hear if anyone has been paid out recently with GBMiners ?

[o_solo_miner]

don't expect an answer from gbminers here, because:
Last Active:    13 December 2016, 19:55:28

So you might choose a better place for your hashrate.
Like ckpool.org where the coder and founder is allways present and honest.
Look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1876330.msg18650392#msg18650392

[BitWolf~]

Here are 8 blocks stolen by GBMiners.
Blocktrail shows them solving the blocks, yet they didn't credit their miners.

491926   GBMiners
491923   GBMiners
492099   GBMiners
492156   GBMiners
492238   GBMiners
492249   GBMiners
492263   GBMiners
492353   GBMiners

[jonnybravo0311]

They took credit for code they didn't write... not too much of a stretch to think they might take blocks that don't belong to them as well.

You all are welcome to join my pool... not only has it been around for a couple years, but it's also paid every miner for every block solved.  Oh, and there are bonuses and promotions as well that come from MY pocket.

[BitWolf~]

Here are 8 blocks stolen by GBMiners.
Blocktrail shows them solving the blocks, yet they didn't credit their miners.

491926   GBMiners
491923   GBMiners
492099   GBMiners
492156   GBMiners
492238   GBMiners
492249   GBMiners
492263   GBMiners
492353   GBMiners

A new website look was added yesterday, these blocks show up on the new site but the old one was running during the time of them being solved.
I doubt anyone was ever paid for their grind on these blocks.

My user login from the old site wasn't moved onto the new site and I'm assuming I'll never see my .01 coin that they owe me.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

A new website look was added yesterday, these blocks show up on the new site but the old one was running during the time of them being solved.
I doubt anyone was ever paid for their grind on these blocks.

My user login from the old site wasn't moved onto the new site and I'm assuming I'll never see my .01 coin that they owe me.

Time to retag the subject line for better SEO and work on taking the code and coin thieves down.

[BitWolf~]

A new website look was added yesterday, these blocks show up on the new site but the old one was running during the time of them being solved.
I doubt anyone was ever paid for their grind on these blocks.

My user login from the old site wasn't moved onto the new site and I'm assuming I'll never see my .01 coin that they owe me.

I've waited a few days to see if they were going to move over the old account info to the new site's database. They never have. So, I created a login with my email and same user name from the old site. No account balance shows, no previous activity under my info. During their website change they stole the blocks above from their users. They didn't move over any user information to the new site, trashing all previous activity.
GBminers are scums and thieves. I would avoid them at all cost. 

[coin163]

Just read some feedback all smell fishy.
Lucky for me that I read these feedback here.
Do you go to solve these problem or turn to scam GBMiners?
Other pool just pay auto once the target reached...

[BitWolf~]

Just read some feedback all smell fishy.
Lucky for me that I read these feedback here.
Do you go to solve these problem or turn to scam GBMiners?
Other pool just pay auto once the target reached...

Nope my old account info was never restored, nor was I ever given my block rewards before, during or after the website layout change. The software they changed to, looks the same as ViaBTC. Plus the 8 blocks that were hit by them, during the change, were never paid to the pool.