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October 19, 2016, 01:40:41 AM |
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I’m new to altcoins. Just understanding what a Bitcoin is took me awhile. Now I’ve hit another wall. How can some altcoins, like DASH for example, sell for $10.00 and one like Vcash sell for $0.23? I don’t get it.
Is there some inherent market difference in what each altcoin is capable of or it is just a matter of who’s brand name sells the best? I mean if all altcoins are based on the original Bitcoin software, with slight changes, how can there be a such a large difference in price between them? Why can’t Bitcoin suffice to fill the needs of all money transactions around the world that these secondary altcoins do? Do we need them? Why?
Like I said, I'm new to this altcoin market. It makes no sense to me to have more than one altcoin than it does to have multiple currencies. Explain . . .
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October 19, 2016, 01:53:51 AM |
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The volume of coins currently in circulation and the defined inflation rate (or undefined like with ETH) VS the level of HYPE/speculation.
It really is that simple... lol
There are other factors as well such as dev activity, future potential, use case, etc etc.
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October 19, 2016, 02:34:26 AM |
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The volume of coins currently in circulation and the defined inflation rate (or undefined like with ETH) VS the level of HYPE/speculation.
It really is that simple... lol
There are other factors as well such as dev activity, future potential, use case, etc etc.
Demand and adoption also plays a big factor I have been to one coin who started @ 3500 satoshis now down to 800 satoshis and there are coins that started to 2 sats and now selling 10 to 50 sats if many investors adopt that coin,there's a big chance to make a profit.
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October 19, 2016, 03:34:13 AM |
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Evolution at work, BTC was the 1st successful crypto, but others unsuccessful cryptos came first. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/quick-history-cryptocurrencies-bbtc-bitcoin-1397682630BTC main evolution is it's Blockchain , which the previous ones did not have. BTC current design can not handle the amount of transactions of being a world monetary system, it just can't keep up with the transaction volume. Supplemental Systems like Lightening Network are being designed to try and make BTC better , but time will tell. Alt coins are just the next step in evolution many will fail, but the strong ideas will survive. Example: DASH evolutionary step is being anonymous and a masternode system, where people hold coins and receive some of the generated coins for maintaining a masternode in a PoW network. The fact that many coins have to be held in an escow type situation causes a decrease in the available coins which allows for a higher price. Strickly Supply & Demand and some Manipulated Hype is how most coins find their price, although sometimes the hype is in the reverse direction and stunts the price of a coin instead of helping it. BTC is PoW, Proof of Work, Coins like ZEIT are Proof of Stake, PoS , I prefer this evolutionary step as it gives everyone a chance to earn more coins and not be completely beholding to the ASICS miners. Plus ZEIT has a blockspeed of 30 seconds, meaning I can send it to someone and they receive it 8 minutes before BTC finds it 1st block, since BTC blockspeed is 10 minutes. Other evolutionary steps are Hybrid coins that are PoS & PoW, or Ripple's Ledger Style system which is not a blockchain, or Monero's ring central system style blockchain where no one can see the transactions amount or sender or receiver unless given a view key. Dogecoin is cheaper to send than Litecoin, but Both are cheaper to send than BTC, price conscience will prefer the cheaper option to send with faster blockspeeds. LTC 2.5 minutes Blockspeed, Doge has 1 minute blockspeed Everyone is different , so everyone has needs for different specs. One Size does not Fit all when it comes to Crypto. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 19, 2016, 03:59:03 AM |
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some already for mining cost 1$ some cost 0.0001$
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October 19, 2016, 04:13:38 AM |
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I think every markets has rates by them selves depend on demand and supply, but usualy the rates of price is no too high for different , and it will not be survive for time. because some traders using strategy of arbitase, if there are different price between markets.
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October 19, 2016, 05:57:43 AM |
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some already for mining cost 1$ some cost 0.0001$
Yes you are right, it part of factor why there are different price for altcoins and as we know difficulty of coins every time always be increase. It is mean cost electric becoming increase too, but there are some countries who using free electric or low fees for pay electric.
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October 19, 2016, 06:03:49 AM |
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I’m new to altcoins. Just understanding what a Bitcoin is took me awhile. Now I’ve hit another wall. How can some altcoins, like DASH for example, sell for $10.00 and one like Vcash sell for $0.23? I don’t get it.
first of all you shouldn't think of altcoins the same way as you see bitcoin or other markets because in any other market (bitcoin, gold, stocks,...) the price is set based on supply and demand. but things are different in altcoin market, the price is mostly set based on hype because there is no real usage for any of 99% the altcoins out there. Is there some inherent market difference in what each altcoin is capable of or it is just a matter of who’s brand name sells the best? I mean if all altcoins are based on the original Bitcoin software, with slight changes, how can there be a such a large difference in price between them? Why can’t Bitcoin suffice to fill the needs of all money transactions around the world that these secondary altcoins do? Do we need them? Why?
the idea is almost the same as bitcoin but there are some bigger changes too, not all of them are small changes. but the price is to some extent only the brand name in my opinion and in some cases there really is no difference between x and y but their prices are too different. Like I said, I'm new to this altcoin market. It makes no sense to me to have more than one altcoin than it does to have multiple currencies. Explain . . .
there are multiple altcoins in the market because it is all an open source community and even you can just fork any of the altcoin code and just change a very small part of the code and name it WoodfordCoin ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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October 19, 2016, 06:08:37 AM |
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I think every markets has rates by them selves depend on demand and supply, but usualy the rates of price is no too high for different , and it will not be survive for time. because some traders using strategy of arbitase, if there are different price between markets.
Yes, its the supply and demand that help determine the price of coins or other altercoins. it depends on community supports and how much other wants to pay for the demand of such coin.But for me, the importance of the said coins is a much,its uses and significance in our daily transactions.
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October 19, 2016, 06:30:27 AM |
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One word: speculation.
No altcoin has a real use today. You can bet on the future of some of them.
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October 19, 2016, 06:34:13 AM |
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I’m new to altcoins. Just understanding what a Bitcoin is took me awhile. Now I’ve hit another wall. How can some altcoins, like DASH for example, sell for $10.00 and one like Vcash sell for $0.23? I don’t get it.
Is there some inherent market difference in what each altcoin is capable of or it is just a matter of who’s brand name sells the best? I mean if all altcoins are based on the original Bitcoin software, with slight changes, how can there be a such a large difference in price between them? Why can’t Bitcoin suffice to fill the needs of all money transactions around the world that these secondary altcoins do? Do we need them? Why?
Like I said, I'm new to this altcoin market. It makes no sense to me to have more than one altcoin than it does to have multiple currencies. Explain . . .
Thanks Woodford
A lot of factors can affecting the price of any altcoin, like the dev, the future ideas, and planning, the demand or the total of the assets from a platform are get sold by a mass. it's not about the volume, demand , and supply but most important factor are how many the platform are can sell their assets into the mass adoption for taking a first value of the coin.
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October 19, 2016, 06:47:25 AM |
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Im new to altcoins. Just understanding what a Bitcoin is took me awhile. Now Ive hit another wall. How can some altcoins, like DASH for example, sell for $10.00 and one like Vcash sell for $0.23? I dont get it.
Is there some inherent market difference in what each altcoin is capable of or it is just a matter of whos brand name sells the best? I mean if all altcoins are based on the original Bitcoin software, with slight changes, how can there be a such a large difference in price between them? Why cant Bitcoin suffice to fill the needs of all money transactions around the world that these secondary altcoins do? Do we need them? Why?
Like I said, I'm new to this altcoin market. It makes no sense to me to have more than one altcoin than it does to have multiple currencies. Explain . . .
Thanks Woodford
it is all about the hype they have and also the pump groups that are interested in these coins and in some cases the amount of money the team behind it are injecting in the project themselves like ethereum that ethereum foundation have been throwing lots of money to keep the price up. there is no real usage for altcoins as of the current day and I don't see any usage for the future either.
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October 19, 2016, 08:12:35 AM |
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Considering the exact nature of your question, an important factor would be the total number of available coins. Take a look at coinmarketcap currencies: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/all/As you can see the total number of DASH coins (available supply) is less than 7 million, but Vcash has around 15M coins available. Also take a look at a coin like NEM which has the 9th. big market cap. Many people believe it to have one of the brightest futures in altcoin land, but there are 9 billions NEMs available, so its price is only 0.003 USD. But a coin like SYNC which is the 165th. coin has a price of $135, because there's only 1177 of it available. Of course any factor that affects demand would affect the price too (the development team, the roadmap, etc), but what makes this kind of huge price differences is the supply.
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October 19, 2016, 08:32:47 AM |
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The altcoins sell for different prices because as you noticed every market has its demands and supply. Every market has its volume, like bitcoin price everyday its a volatile price. Like the price of gold, others goods and services price each is different.
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October 19, 2016, 08:45:44 AM |
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it is mostly because different altcoins are created by different people (developers team) so in other words they are completely different from each other. some of them are managed by a good team like litecoin and some of them are just random code copy paste stuff. also the price as others said is mostly the result of how they are advertising the coin and a little bit about how interesting the coin itself is ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 19, 2016, 08:51:41 AM |
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One word: speculation.
No altcoin has a real use today. You can bet on the future of some of them.
I agree and like this response. It is pretty much pure speculation, betting on the potential of the given coin rather than it's current state.
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October 19, 2016, 05:02:09 PM |
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At the start the Ico the dev can decide what will be the price of the coin,and when the coin is now tradeable on exchanges it is now up to the traders to speculate by the sell and buy wall what will be the price of the a certain coin.
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October 20, 2016, 04:33:54 AM |
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Each coin have more hype than others. Different hype, different price. The hype is base on the team involving with the coin.
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October 20, 2016, 05:14:31 AM |
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Because different altcoins have different coin supplies, different communities, and different applications and goals.
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October 20, 2016, 05:50:53 AM |
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Altcoins has different prices because of different developer of the coins. Different goals in developing the altcoins, its different of demands ans dupply, thats why it has different prices. Like in the market, each goods has different prices also.
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