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October 29, 2016, 05:39:51 PM
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Governments can block you from using bitcoin just like they block you from:
Gambling - They can and have multiple times. Remember Fulltiltpoker.com, Absolutepoker.com, Ultimatebet.com and UB.com?
Porn - no one cares or tries.
Music piracy - They can and have multiple times. Remember Limewire, Demonoid, Kickass Torrents, Torrent-Finder, OnSmash.com, DaJaz1.com?
Joining a terror group - I can join the gay nazi's for hitler, that doesn't mean shit. Let's talk about drone strikes instead.
Creating a fake facebook account - Why would the government give a shit about that dude? They probably have more fake facebook accounts than anyone does.
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In other words, they can't can and have.  Wink



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If Bitcoin came under attack from the government kiss that mainstream to the moon bullshit goodby. There is no way a payment system can be even slightly useful if under government attack. Hiding in a dark room, running TOR, and biting your nails is not the way most people want to shop on Amazon. LOL
My point is you still can do any of the banned activities. And trying to shut down a distributed network vs. a website is much, much harder. Lastly there are no legal grounds for an attack nor any suggestion of a will to do so; nor any method by which to accomplish it. We won brother.  Smiley

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October 29, 2016, 07:07:48 PM
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My point is you still can do any of the banned activities. And trying to shut down a distributed network vs. a website is much, much harder. Lastly there are no legal grounds for an attack nor any suggestion of a will to do so; nor any method by which to accomplish it. We won brother.  Smiley

we have not won.
its stupid to think we won and do nothing more... its an endless marathon.
we should always be doing more.
getting 91 countries to get their ISP's to take peoples landline internet offline is achievable.

we should not be relying on "but they shouldnt".. but instead expand bitcoin to "but they couldnt".
we should never rely on the good nature of government not to do something but be prepared for their bad nature.

afterall billions of emails got copied to three later agencies before it even became a thing that users should encrypt their email.
even now people still dont encrypt their email. they just presume governments are not the bad guys and let governments do it.

apathy seems soo rampant in this topic. im guessing the many that are suggesting to trust governments as good guys are probably people that are not even running a full node.

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October 29, 2016, 07:41:00 PM
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I think the rumblings of a concerted government attack would be enough to seriously upend bitcoin value wise at least.

sure, there's a die hard hard core, everyone else who gives it value is an overextended scaredy cat with no real emotional attachment.
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October 29, 2016, 07:51:08 PM
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Imagine, goverment isn't able to block torrent websites and how can they to block bitcoin? No, nowdays there is no way to block bitcoins. We can to install bitcoin wallets in our computer and than make transactions and I think ISP can't track us in this way, if they can than we can to use VPN and hide ourself. If ISP is going to block something, than there is always VPN that gives you permission to unlock that.
So don't worry about that, keep calm and use bitcoin.

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October 29, 2016, 08:36:20 PM
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Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
Use a VPN.Everyone needs freedom to do whatever they want on the internet.Torrents will never die.FTP's will never stop.You just need to look at the right places.For instance,check out russian torrent sites.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Not unless they start taking actions against miners.How many IP's do you think they can individually start banning? They won't waste their time on this.
Let them even waste their time banning the IPs, people will still find a possible way of mining and using bitcoin, one of which is using proxy/tor/Vpn, I do not see any point trying to ban it by any Government or organization, rather let the just accept it wholeheartedly. I believe that will the only possible and fruitful way for a government.
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October 29, 2016, 10:20:37 PM
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Governments can block you from using bitcoin just like they block you from:
Gambling - They can and have multiple times. Remember Fulltiltpoker.com, Absolutepoker.com, Ultimatebet.com and UB.com?
Porn - no one cares or tries.
Music piracy - They can and have multiple times. Remember Limewire, Demonoid, Kickass Torrents, Torrent-Finder, OnSmash.com, DaJaz1.com?
Joining a terror group - I can join the gay nazi's for hitler, that doesn't mean shit. Let's talk about drone strikes instead.
Creating a fake facebook account - Why would the government give a shit about that dude? They probably have more fake facebook accounts than anyone does.
etc...
In other words, they can't can and have.  Wink



Sites I've visited recently:

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If Bitcoin came under attack from the government kiss that mainstream to the moon bullshit goodby. There is no way a payment system can be even slightly useful if under government attack. Hiding in a dark room, running TOR, and biting your nails is not the way most people want to shop on Amazon. LOL
My point is you still can do any of the banned activities. And trying to shut down a distributed network vs. a website is much, much harder. Lastly there are no legal grounds for an attack nor any suggestion of a will to do so; nor any method by which to accomplish it. We won brother.  Smiley

I agree, governments, other than the most oppressive, don't care about Bitcoin. My point was that "mainstream" does not go with "government attack".

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October 30, 2016, 07:43:58 AM
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I don't feel Bitcoin will be banned. So far there no news or indication it could be. Blocking it would be far more problematic. Hence I don't think government will be in Any rush to banned them. So take a chill pill
yes that is right to say that currently there is no announcement from the government side that either bitcoin is banned or not, so we are using it without any worry and hope that in future government will consider bitcoin as legal currency, and it will not be banned for ever.
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November 29, 2016, 10:48:05 PM
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I don't feel Bitcoin will be banned. So far there no news or indication it could be. Blocking it would be far more problematic. Hence I don't think government will be in Any rush to banned them. So take a chill pill
yes that is right to say that currently there is no announcement from the government side that either bitcoin is banned or not, so we are using it without any worry and hope that in future government will consider bitcoin as legal currency, and it will not be banned for ever.

Yup, it's true now no announcement about banning bitcoin as payment and I think it will never happen. Bitcoin cause would be one alternative tools deals for every single thing that exists in the world and will certainly become a digital currency used by most people in the world. But this could be an obstacle for users because there is a possibility of bitcoin, that the Government will find a way out in a transaction which does not benefit any rule
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November 29, 2016, 11:47:57 PM
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You could use a client like Shadowsocks to encrypt your connection to other nodes, so your information will be indistinguishable from normal data.

From this, an ISP could still shut you down, but they risk you getting shut down for not doing anything. That's what China does, and you can watch youtube, or use google or facebook freely with shadowsocks.

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November 30, 2016, 04:51:26 AM
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I don't feel Bitcoin will be banned. So far there no news or indication it could be. Blocking it would be far more problematic. Hence I don't think government will be in Any rush to banned them. So take a chill pill
yes that is right to say that currently there is no announcement from the government side that either bitcoin is banned or not, so we are using it without any worry and hope that in future government will consider bitcoin as legal currency, and it will not be banned for ever.

Yup, it's true now no announcement about banning bitcoin as payment and I think it will never happen. Bitcoin cause would be one alternative tools deals for every single thing that exists in the world and will certainly become a digital currency used by most people in the world. But this could be an obstacle for users because there is a possibility of bitcoin, that the Government will find a way out in a transaction which does not benefit any rule

It can be blocked by the government but you are all right with what you have said. There is no way that government will implement ban to bitcoin because they even don't know what bitcoin is. But when the time comes that they can see that bitcoin is threatening their banking system then that will make implementation for banning.

What are you talking about? Of course the government's know what Bitcoin is! You can't be that ignorant.

Governments are totally aware of Bitcoin and probably have workers looking into it. It's a complicated system, but one that could put their current banking system to ruins. They are faced with a decision. To adapt, or to remove. Naturally, some nations will chose the latter. We have to persuade them otherwise.

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