Can bitcoin be blocked too by the government or isp ??

[CasioK]

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

That's right the goverment just be able for blocking the bitcoin through the IP, in this time that is referring into the bitcoin'site and not for the bitcoin currency. but it's just useless step for the goverment and isp for blocking bitcoin. according from the a lot of the various vpn are offering a good service in this day for passing a block and like using a tor network. goverment and isp just wasting a lot of their time for doing a sueless things.

yeah,  i think goverment can block with IP but we can replace IP again

Apart from replacing your ip when it is blocked by the government for using bitcoin should it be prohibited, you may safely use proxy ip or vpn and still access whatever site or business relating to bitcoin. Whether they block the ip or not, people will still find a way to use bitcoin surely.

[QuestionAuthority]

Relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79913.0

I, personally, won't be satisfied until the Bitcoin network is running smoothly on a global wireless mesh network.

That's a really old thread. There have been changes in TOR and government website seizures that change the game.  The truth is if the government wanted to get rid of bitcoin they could do it easily using any number of methods.  The good news is Bitcoin is such an inconsequential flea on the backside of an elephant that they have absolutely no reason to do anything.

Look at it this way, there are somewhere between 400k-500k daily heroin users in the USA alone but less than 250k daily Bitcoin transactions worldwide. There are millions of violent crimes, identity thefts, financial sector crimes from check kiting to bank hacking and thousands of other problems too numerous to list. Why would any government throw resources they don't have solving a non-issue like Bitcoin?

Every time law enforcement has been involved with Bitcoin it was related to another crime not Bitcoin. Illegal securities, illegal drug marketplace, fraud, kidnapping, etc are the crimes they care about. It wouldn't matter if those crimes were committed with gold, dollars, bitcoin or food stamps the result would be the same.

No government is going to shut down Bitcoin because no one gives a shit about Bitcoin. LOL

[delliaerd]

Relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79913.0

I, personally, won't be satisfied until the Bitcoin network is running smoothly on a global wireless mesh network.

That's a really old thread. There have been changes in TOR and government website seizures that change the game.  The truth is if the government wanted to get rid of bitcoin they could do it easily using any number of methods.  The good news is Bitcoin is such an inconsequential flea on the backside of an elephant that they have absolutely no reason to do anything.

Look at it this way, there are somewhere between 400k-500k daily heroin users in the USA alone but less than 250k daily Bitcoin transactions worldwide. There are millions of violent crimes, identity thefts, financial sector crimes from check kiting to bank hacking and thousands of other problems too numerous to list. Why would any government throw resources they don't have solving a non-issue like Bitcoin?

Every time law enforcement has been involved with Bitcoin it was related to another crime not Bitcoin. Illegal securities, illegal drug marketplace, fraud, kidnapping, etc are the crimes they care about. It wouldn't matter if those crimes were committed with gold, dollars, bitcoin or food stamps the result would be the same.

No government is going to shut down Bitcoin because no one gives a shit about Bitcoin. LOL

I am agree with you, although isp and goverment make a rule that banned the bitcoin. They still cannot stop the users to use bitcoin becouse users can use vpn to pass through it. So I think the statement that goverment is xan not control the bitcoin is true. I think bitcoin is realy appropriated to be virtual money and I think may be the most of people in the world will use bitcoin, just wait it to be happen.

[manbitcoinlover]

Why would they block it though?

PS: I can understand now how it can pose a problem to regular fiat currency. But this can only happen if bitcoin becomes so big because many people are using it,
such as brick and mortar stores and consumers. If this happens, the governmental financial system is challenge and can crumble, giving the people financial freedom.

[franky1]

Why wuld they block it though?

we should not care about why, where, who.
we should not be apathetic due to questions of why, where, who.

instead we should continue to increase the networks diversity and distribution so that questions such as:
why doesn't matter
when doesn't matter
who doesn't matter
where doesn't matter

[sempak]

blocking enactment by the internet service provider is a totally impossible !!
bitcoin is a financial system, not a criminal act that should be restricted for use !!

[franky1]

blocking enactment by the internet service provider is a totally impossible !!
bitcoin is a financial system, not a criminal act that should be restricted for use !!

so your saying financial systems are not restricted?
ever tried to get more the £$500 out of an ATM
ever tried to carry more than £$10,000 in cash onto a plane

we should stop thinking or caring about government rules or possible future rules. but strengthen the network to not get impacted by any rules present or future.

we need to stop saying:
"i hope governments dont change laws"
"i hope hackers dont delete 6000 nodes data in one swoop"

and instead say
"hackers come try breaking bitcoin, you can waste your time it wont break"
"governments come try to take it offline, you can waste your time but new nodes will be up in 20 seconds"

[manbitcoinlover]

its impossible to prepare for every situation .

[satmas]

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

If they can block sharing sites and torrents, they may be able to block the connection to the bitcoin network. Some bitcoin sites such as gambling sites might not allow users from specific countries to connect/register to the site, but you may be able to stop that by using VPN to connect from a country that isn't blocked.

[clickerz]

If they can block sharing sites and torrents, they may be able to block the connection to the bitcoin network. Some bitcoin sites such as gambling sites might not allow users from specific countries to connect/register to the site, but you may be able to stop that by using VPN to connect from a country that isn't blocked.

This is what I am saying that a person will always find a way to circumvent the blocking As the technology is open to all, all are experimenting,reverse engineer to their own benefit.That is why, if there is a blocking, there is way to overcome it.

[Zadicar]

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

It could  possibly be blocked   by  the government  because  they  have  control  on the ISP's  on a  certain country  which  they could able to  command   on  blocking  it all  regards to bitcoin things but  still they  could  not able  to stop complete  to those people who would  really  love to use  bitcoin hence  you could always   use  VPN and   Tor  which  you could actually  acces bitcoin  with different  IP but  be careful hence Tor  browsing  would be  able to detect  by  isp's  but  tor has a way  on that   for them  not  able to trace you.

[Xenophoto]

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

Of course it can be blocked by your ISP but you can always bypass it. The only ones that will be affected by this are the people that didn't bother to search how to bypass this. This is very easy to do. There are even VPNs out there that allows you to connect to the Internet without paying your ISP.

[romero121]

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

Of course it can be blocked by your ISP but you can always bypass it. The only ones that will be affected by this are the people that didn't bother to search how to bypass this. This is very easy to do. There are even VPNs out there that allows you to connect to the Internet without paying your ISP.

As quoted users can go with several bypassing techniques and applications. Same happened in my country of banning porn websites and torrents, but the ban didn't last long as expected. Within a months time people started using it through different bypassing activities which made the government to release the ban over several websites.

[franky1]

As quoted users can go with several bypassing techniques and applications. Same happened in my country of banning porn websites and torrents, but the ban didn't last long as expected. Within a months time people started using it through different bypassing activities which made the government to release the ban over several websites.

lol proxy bypass allows access to things banned while you still have internet available on your land line. but if your internet has been cut off completely due to a chance of your ISP's terms of service. then you are OFFLINE.. and no proxy bypass or tor can get around that.

it does not require making EVERYONE (billions of people) go offline to destroy bitcoin.. but instead just <6000.
yes it requires a co-ordinated approach to time 91 countries ISP's to do this at the same time. but it is possible.

relying on hope/trust that 91 governments or groups of ISP do not do this, is not good. we need to continue to strengthen bitcoin to not need hope/trust. but instead be strong enough to say "bring it, i dare ya" knowing they wont be successful.

[Xenophoto]

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

Of course it can be blocked by your ISP but you can always bypass it. The only ones that will be affected by this are the people that didn't bother to search how to bypass this. This is very easy to do. There are even VPNs out there that allows you to connect to the Internet without paying your ISP.

As quoted users can go with several bypassing techniques and applications. Same happened in my country of banning porn websites and torrents, but the ban didn't last long as expected. Within a months time people started using it through different bypassing activities which made the government to release the ban over several websites.

It's either your government has nothing else to problematize so they ban porn websites and torrents or your government just want add another law just so people can say that something new has been implemented.

I think that governments that will be banning access of something on the Internet has never heard of VPN and all those anonymity stuffs. All of these can be bypassed by just using a single software. Actually, it can even be monetize by some people. They can sell an elite or premium account of a VPN.

[xdrpx]

It may be possible for a Government to restrict hosting of Bitcoin nodes by making them illegal or Bitcoin mining as illegal as well. Similar to how hosting a tor node in certain places are considered illegal. The Governments could also heavily regular the Bitcoin market, prevent merchants from accepting Bitcoin payments and also could artificially pump in a lot of funds and dump to scale or drop the Bitcoin price. But all of these still happen in a regular stock exchange, which really couldn't affect the price by a lot. Bitcoin nodes can be easily setup in other regions to counter this and mining could always happen elsewhere as well. The fact is decentralization of Bitcoin would be put to stake if they wanted to really poke Bitcoin.

[eternalgloom]

its impossible to prepare for every situation .

So you just shouldn't care, is that what you are saying? Yeah you can't prepare for anything, but you can certainly prepare for the most likely and unlikely situations to happen.

[Patatas]

Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Use a VPN.Everyone needs freedom to do whatever they want on the internet.Torrents will never die.FTP's will never stop.You just need to look at the right places.For instance,check out russian torrent sites.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

Not unless they start taking actions against miners.How many IP's do you think they can individually start banning? They won't waste their time on this.

[QuestionAuthority]

Relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79913.0

I, personally, won't be satisfied until the Bitcoin network is running smoothly on a global wireless mesh network.

That's a really old thread. There have been changes in TOR and government website seizures that change the game.  The truth is if the government wanted to get rid of bitcoin they could do it easily using any number of methods.  The good news is Bitcoin is such an inconsequential flea on the backside of an elephant that they have absolutely no reason to do anything.

Look at it this way, there are somewhere between 400k-500k daily heroin users in the USA alone but less than 250k daily Bitcoin transactions worldwide. There are millions of violent crimes, identity thefts, financial sector crimes from check kiting to bank hacking and thousands of other problems too numerous to list. Why would any government throw resources they don't have solving a non-issue like Bitcoin?

Every time law enforcement has been involved with Bitcoin it was related to another crime not Bitcoin. Illegal securities, illegal drug marketplace, fraud, kidnapping, etc are the crimes they care about. It wouldn't matter if those crimes were committed with gold, dollars, bitcoin or food stamps the result would be the same.

No government is going to shut down Bitcoin because no one gives a shit about Bitcoin. LOL

I am agree with you, although isp and goverment make a rule that banned the bitcoin. They still cannot stop the users to use bitcoin becouse users can use vpn to pass through it. So I think the statement that goverment is xan not control the bitcoin is true. I think bitcoin is realy appropriated to be virtual money and I think may be the most of people in the world will use bitcoin, just wait it to be happen.

You can't run a mail server from a residence in the US because most murrican isp's block SMTP port 25. Murrican isp's also routinely block ports 443, 80, 110 and 21. Windows home server setup used to commonly fail because of blocked ports.

The truth is the govt could demand isp's block any ports they want and there's nothing anyone could do about it. That would start a Bitcoin port war where updates would roll out with default port changes and the govt would block those and on and on like Apple iPhone updates. Hackers learn to jailbreak the current ios and Apple responds with an update, bla, bla. No one in their right mind would ever use a payment system that is that difficult to use.

None of that will ever happen. If the government actually cared enough about tiny little Bitcoin to do something about it they would simply pass a law banning its use. That would terrify every legimate business and force them to stop any dealings with Bitcoin effectively ending Bitcoin use in that country. If they were really serious about ending even the most casual use of Bitcoin they would pass a mandatory jail sentence for Bitcoin use. That would crush Bitcoin like jello under a steamroller in that country.

[amacar2]

If government block access to any bitcoin related site or web wallet we can easily access them via TOR browser as well as if government tries to banned exchange of bitcoin than we can have face to face deals which are off the record of any banks or online payment gateways. Also there are several bitcoin tumbling and mixing services to hide identity to not get linked to any bitcoins you are holding.