NEW SCAMMER Galer [HELP!!!]

[crypto-boy]

Hello,

I had order for making website engine for user Galer.

I made all things he asked in his message BUT then he started asking new and new things and said that he will not pay me for my previous work.

In another words: we agreed that I do for 100$ simple image board website with some functions. I did it but then he asked some new functions and I again did it. And now he want design and some new functions!!! He forgot about our agreement and money for my previous work. He just forces me to work for free with the hope that in one day he pay me my 100$.

I am not used escrow and it is my problem but I really hope that good people on this forum will help me with him.  

I understand that some people don't know how is coder working and is it difficult to make new functions. I explain: Coder getting money for time that he spent on development. I spent ~3 days (10 hours) for making his website (because he asked new site engine e.g. development from scratch) and this job really costs 100$ (I live in Europe but have low hour rate). Now he want's new functions but he don't want to pay for already done job.

His argument that he FORGOT to explain some BIG functions in his first message and therefore he will not pay for system which isn't done on 100%.  

Here the screenshots of some first messages:

This is the website: http://djsfhkasdfhk.esy.es/messageboard/# (I already dropped it to hosting  ):

then:

And then:

Finally I said him that I agree to make bonus for him and change the design for free BUT after I receive HALF of payment (just 50$  ) - BUT HE DON'T AGREE  

Please give him negative trust or I don't know... I worked on it, I spent my time and energy and now he don't want to pay for site HE WANTED.

[crypto-boy]

Another message where he admit that he forgot say anything about design but he never said that he will do changes in design after uploading:

[Galer]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

[crypto-boy]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

[Galer]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

Im not breached the agreement I said to you im gonna pay if the development is done this the quote:

[crypto-boy]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

Im not breached the agreement I said to you im gonna pay if the development is done this the quote:

I have fulfilled all the items of the agreement. Job is done.

[Galer]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

Im not breached the agreement I said to you im gonna pay if the development is done this the quote:

I have fulfilled all the items of the contract. Job is done.

Ah you fulfilled the project what about the design that I want to look a alike?

[crypto-boy]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

Im not breached the agreement I said to you im gonna pay if the development is done this the quote:

I have fulfilled all the items of the contract. Job is done.

Ah you fulfilled the project what about the design that I want to look a alike?

Show this item in our agreement (first message).

We have: THREAD FUNCTIONS, USER FUNCTIONS and BACKEND FUNCTIONS. WHERE THE "DESIGN PART" and comment that it should be 100% same as 4chan  

[Galer]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

Im not breached the agreement I said to you im gonna pay if the development is done this the quote:

I have fulfilled all the items of the contract. Job is done.

Ah you fulfilled the project what about the design that I want to look a alike?

Show this item in our agreement (first message).

Yeah im read that is the websites gonna work  but after I see the out put if the project I see im not satisfied with the design so I just want to make some revision on the design and if you can add some function on the website.

[Galer]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

Im not breached the agreement I said to you im gonna pay if the development is done this the quote:

I have fulfilled all the items of the contract. Job is done.

Ah you fulfilled the project what about the design that I want to look a alike?

Show this item in our agreement (first message).

We have: THREAD FUNCTIONS, USER FUNCTIONS and BACKEND FUNCTIONS. WHERE THE "DESIGN PART" and comment that it should be 100% same as 4chan  

Yead I admit that I forgot to explain the design part but I message you to make some revision on the design.

[crypto-boy]

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

The problem is that you breached the AGREEMENT and don't want to pay for your order.  

Im not breached the agreement I said to you im gonna pay if the development is done this the quote:

I have fulfilled all the items of the contract. Job is done.

Ah you fulfilled the project what about the design that I want to look a alike?

Show this item in our agreement (first message).

Yeah im read that is the websites gonna work  but after I see the out put if the project I see im not satisfied with the design so I just want to make some revision on the design and if you can add some function on the website.

Yes I can change it. After you pay me 100$ for already done work relying on agreement. And escrow new amount for additional functionality not described in agreement.

[Galer]

Hello,

I had order for making website engine for user Galer.

I made all things he asked in his message BUT then he started asking new and new things and said that he will not pay me for my previous work.

In another words: we agreed that I do for 100$ simple image board website with some functions. I did it but then he asked some new functions and I again did it. And now he want design and some new functions!!! He forgot about our agreement and money for my previous work. He just forces me to work for free with the hope that in one day he pay me my 100$.

I am not used escrow and it is my problem but I really hope that good people on this forum will help me with him.  

I understand that some people don't know how is coder working and is it difficult to make new functions. I explain: Coder getting money for time that he spent on development. I spent ~3 days (10 hours) for making his website (because he asked new site engine e.g. development from scratch) and this job really costs 100$ (I live in Europe but have low hour rate). Now he want's new functions but he don't want to pay for already done job.

His argument that he FORGOT to explain some BIG functions in his first message and therefore he will not pay for system which isn't done on 100%.  

Here the screenshots of some first messages:

This is the website: http://djsfhkasdfhk.esy.es/messageboard/# (I already dropped it to hosting  ):

then:

And then:

Finally I said him that I agree to make bonus for him and change the design for free BUT after I receive HALF of payment (just 50$  ) - BUT HE DON'T AGREE  

Please give him negative trust or I don't know... I worked on it, I spent my time and energy and now he don't want to pay for site HE WANTED.

Okay im gonna pay for the time and energy you spent but not the website that you work.And but not today because im her in my aunt and the wallet that I used is in my pc in my home.

[crypto-boy]

He didn't paid me yet.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

He didn't paid me yet.

I give negs for account dealers for a good reason, and situations like this always seem to pop up.  Funny how that works.   Hope this knuckle dragger pays you the money.  Hope he doesn't stay at his aunt's house for a week.  Or forever.  You know how aunts roll.

[satmas]

Hey, didn't this guy cheat his own contest by giving bitcoins to an alt account? Oh wait!

[Gunthar]

You guys should hire an escrow RIGHT NOW.
Galer should send 100usd to the escrow so the coder would be able to know he will get his work paid. You should make a new agreement for the extra job that Galer is asking (for example the design). The extra job funds should be sent to the escrow as well. When Galer is completely satisfied with crypto-boy code, the escrow should release the funds.
You both made a mistake to not use an escrow at beginning, but you are not too late.
~Gun

[crypto-boy]

You guys should hire an escrow RIGHT NOW.
Galer should send 100usd to the escrow so the coder would be able to know he will get his work paid. You should make a new agreement for the extra job that Galer is asking (for example the design). The extra job funds should be sent to the escrow as well. When Galer is completely satisfied with crypto-boy code, the escrow should release the funds.
You both made a mistake to not use an escrow at beginning, but you are not too late.
~Gun

Yes, I agree with your proposition. And yes, it was a big mistake that I decided to work without escrow.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Crypto-boy,do you still have access to the code files or his ssh ? Lock them,back up the code files and delete them off the server until he pays you,simple as that ? I can totally relate to this situation,let's start with this,Galer,mister fuck off,do you know what agreements are ?What requirements are ? Mate,if the coder was me,I'd not even write <html> tag without the money being escrowed or partially paid.Now,let's put some knowledge in you.

Whats the problem with the client want to make the project looks like that and I willing to pay but the job is not finish yet.

So the job is not finished until your shit ideas are implemented ? Hey,is that job ending anytime soon? Before the mass destruction of the humanity? YOU PAY FOR EVERY NEW REQUIREMENT SHITTED OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

Yeah im read that is the websites gonna work  but after I see the out put if the project I see im not satisfied with the design so I just want to make some revision on the design and if you can add some function on the website.

Another fuck off statement.The jobs not done until you're satisfied ? Well,the fingers don't move until the money in the wallet increases.

@OP : Stop coding for him.Take your money and leave the site as per agreements.

@Galer : Pay him.Pay him more.Pay him everytime you're unsatisfied with anything.

[crypto-boy]

New update: he said that gonna to pay me on 2 November. So let's wait...

[crypto-boy]

I have not any money yet