Which incoming ICO to invest our BTC into?

[iamnotback]

Does anyone know how much $$ the ICO of Ark.io will raise? I don't know enough details to say whether that coming Steem clone is worth making a speculative investment. They seem to rather serious, but I don't think they've really improved anything over Steem's broken model at least in terms of the onboarding and rewards payout mechanism (and math!). They may be correcting the whale concentration with a more fair ICO than Steem's sneaky "premine". Devil is in the details.

Also remember you are investing in the capabilities of the lead developer to a large extent unless the project is entirely complete and no future forks. Even then you are sort of investing in the lead developer, because it is assumed he will work on the ecosystem development. So you need to know very well the technical and marketing capabilities of the development team, especially the lead developer.

For XMR, you have fluffypony. For Bitcoin, you have Gregory Maxwell. For Zcash, you have Zooko-Wilcox. Etc...

Looking at Ark.io again. The (presumably French speaking) CTO from studying his LinkedIn appears to be from the Lisk project and before that from working with the government of Europe. Typically these sort of people are weak on technology skills and strong on creating wasteful bureaucracy. Has he spoken in English any where? Is eloquent and inspiring like Vitalik?

I very, very much doubt this guy is as technically strong as the guys I mentioned in my prior post.

I also remember Charles Hoskinson saying in his exposition about Lisk, that their core team is lacking in technical skills.

Looks like Ark.io will raise a minimum of 2000 BTC (and probably much more since Lisk raised $8 million) with 25% of the ICO for themselves and they are apparently holding 7% of the money supply as well? Details are sketchy for the moment.

The name is Ark is reasonably good. But I have a better name.

As I said, they appear to have the similar broken model for onboarding and rewards as Steem (but I only briefly scanned the whitepaper). I don't know if they copied Steem's 2 year lockin and inflation model.

This might end up being a reasonable speculation, if they can hype it out at some point. Or maybe somehow they are able to pull it all together technically and also improve on flaws of Steem over time.

But for me, I am doubting whether Lisk, Waves, and now Ark will ever amount to anything significant. I have some technical reasons which I am not going to detail, because they are for my project. Actually Waves is somewhat unrelated concept to other two, but the way it was launched claiming to be affiliated with Charles' IOHK has made me think it is not an ethically run operation.

Any way, I always get people angry at me when I comment on other projects. So remember these are only my opinions. And I will STFU.


Disclaimer: the project I am working on is a competitor to Ark. So I am biased. But I better be objective, else I am wasting my time with my project.

[JeffBrad12]

After the ICONOMI, i feel like there's no better project these days which we can look forward to in the future except these coins that aren't really making a huge difference to the existing ones. So among the existing ICOs today which did you put your money to?

Don't count and don't touch ICO coins these days because all would lower than ICO value and the mystery team would disappeared over time. Everyone is just want and after that gold standard Bitcoin.

Yes, you did it, just watching the other people are doubling their investment. what about antshares and already got pumping more than the ico price and seems that's not bad for anyone. and what about those coins? PSB, and the another.

[trollercoaster]

I'd also avoid the hyped vapor coins with lonnnng waits for launch or long windy road maps that the developer probably can't fulfill, the ico buyers end up trapped in a lot of cases when it hits the exchange and flops.

Have a look in some of the old ann threads at all of the sad bagholders still clinging to hope that their dead coin will pump at a future date down the "road map" so they can dump their bags, and they still fool themselves and gobble up cheap coins.

Don't be one of those guys.

I avoid these toxic communities like the plague.

Set yourself a realistic exit point and stick to it, unless you have a use for the coin, most of them die within a few months because there's no real users.

[extrabyte]

After the ICONOMI, i feel like there's no better project these days which we can look forward to in the future except these coins that aren't really making a huge difference to the existing ones. So among the existing ICOs today which did you put your money to?

Saying the truth there are a lot of ICOs that are being created every month and after the Iconomi I am not seeing any other similar to icn, one ico that I saw recently has reached near 1 million dollars and that is incent, but not sure if it worth investing there now.

[MHopkins]

After the ICONOMI, i feel like there's no better project these days which we can look forward to in the future except these coins that aren't really making a huge difference to the existing ones. So among the existing ICOs today which did you put your money to?

Saying the truth there are a lot of ICOs that are being created every month and after the Iconomi I am not seeing any other similar to icn, one ico that I saw recently has reached near 1 million dollars and that is incent, but not sure if it worth investing there now.

You have to sort through a lot of old clams to find a pearl.

This one looks interesting.

ChronoBank.io

Using smart contracts on multiple blockchains, Eth, Waves and Lisk - it is aiming to disrupt the rec-con and agency industry. Like Uber but for all gig-economy jobs.

[Casabrandy]

There are a lot of interesting ICO if you are keen on observation. ARK , vDice and Incent are the three major ICO running or will run. My criteria on judging good ICO are the background of devs (credibility and experience) and their platform. I add vdice because i know that their will be a lot of supporteron their project because we all know that the majority of user here are gambling,

[btcxyzzz]

Just invested into Inchain, lookin at Golem and Cosmos.

[BillyBobZorton]

I remember reading about Golem. I like the idea of a world computer to share resources with and rent it and render video faster (for example).

I just don't know if the ICO will be worth it, or it's better to wait for the usual first crash, then buy cheaper in the exchanges before another pump happens..

[Daisy14]

Hey, no one is mentioning KOMODO!

Come on guys let's cheer it up for... KOMODO

Yeee!

Do we have some cheerleaders in the house?

[electronicash]

After the ICONOMI, i feel like there's no better project these days which we can look forward to in the future except these coins that aren't really making a huge difference to the existing ones. So among the existing ICOs today which did you put your money to?

Saying the truth there are a lot of ICOs that are being created every month and after the Iconomi I am not seeing any other similar to icn, one ico that I saw recently has reached near 1 million dollars and that is incent, but not sure if it worth investing there now.

You have to sort through a lot of old clams to find a pearl.

This one looks interesting.

ChronoBank.io

Using smart contracts on multiple blockchains, Eth, Waves and Lisk - it is aiming to disrupt the rec-con and agency industry. Like Uber but for all gig-economy jobs.

have already heard of it from an advert on facebook and google but never have i seen thier ANN thread here. of all palce to promote why should they stick on facebok? That made  me think ChronoBank.io may scam people online. if they are indeed legit they should at least stay here and prove themselves worthy.

[MHopkins]

have already heard of it from an advert on facebook and google but never have i seen thier ANN thread here.

No - they haven't done a PRE-ANN and they haven't done the ANN yet on here. There is a link holder on their website along with all the other media links so I guess they will make an ANN when the time is right.   They had the existing community vote for various aspects and parameters of the ICO so the ANN will be done when all is settled, I presume.

[electronicash]

have already heard of it from an advert on facebook and google but never have i seen thier ANN thread here.

No - they haven't done a PRE-ANN and they haven't done the ANN yet on here. There is a link holder on their website along with all the other media links so I guess they will make an ANN when the time is right.   They had the existing community vote for various aspects and parameters of the ICO so the ANN will be done when all is settled, I presume.

The ICO has already started, i can see it on their website.
If they wanna gather funds, its in tis forum where they can see bitcoin users who are willin to invest to a project once they see potentials and profit. Why one earth will they ever go for facebook ads.

[PieCoin]

We will be making our big announcement in the ICO department very soon.

[electronicash]

Just invested into Inchain, lookin at Golem and Cosmos.

Golem is quite interesting, i'll keep an eye to it. Inchain can really be great if the aimed funds are achieved, you can imagine how much money they can get for insurance - everyone wants security of course.  I don't have any idea what Cosmos have but will read it later. 

Hope to see someone later with better view where crypto is going and can use the blockhain for his idea.

[STT]

You might want to bottom fish on LTC for money you don't need to touch for a year.

From a trading point of view that seems reasonable, I mean I dont know why litecoin was so popular but I guess it could be again alongside bitcoin just like the old days.   That prospect seems cheap and increasingly so as bitcoin rises, but Im not confident on just where each coin sits now though and why its user base is there

[iamnotback]

You might want to bottom fish on LTC for money you don't need to touch for a year.

From a trading point of view that seems reasonable, I mean I dont know why litecoin was so popular but I guess it could be again alongside bitcoin just like the old days.   That prospect seems cheap and increasingly so as bitcoin rises, but Im not confident on just where each coin sits now though and why its user base is there

Bitcoin has problems over political battles. Litcoin doesn't. The creator of Litecoin left Google to work for Coinbase.

[Snorek]

You might want to bottom fish on LTC for money you don't need to touch for a year.

From a trading point of view that seems reasonable, I mean I dont know why litecoin was so popular but I guess it could be again alongside bitcoin just like the old days.   That prospect seems cheap and increasingly so as bitcoin rises, but Im not confident on just where each coin sits now though and why its user base is there

Bitcoin has problems over political battles. Litcoin doesn't. The creator of Litecoin left Google to work for Coinbase.

You now why Litecoin doesn't have any problems with politics and governments? Because it is insignificant clone of Bitcoin and is not treated seriously by authorities.
Do you honestly think that old altcoin with market cap lower that $200 million will be someday great again?

[iamnotback]

You might want to bottom fish on LTC for money you don't need to touch for a year.

From a trading point of view that seems reasonable, I mean I dont know why litecoin was so popular but I guess it could be again alongside bitcoin just like the old days.   That prospect seems cheap and increasingly so as bitcoin rises, but Im not confident on just where each coin sits now though and why its user base is there

Bitcoin has problems over political battles. Litcoin doesn't. The creator of Litecoin left Google to work for Coinbase.

You now why Litecoin doesn't have any problems with politics and governments? Because it is insignificant clone of Bitcoin and is not treated seriously by authorities.
Do you honestly think that old altcoin with market cap lower that $200 million will be someday great again?

When you can't get your transactions into Bitcoin block and there is a crisis, Litecoin could be a stopgap measure and see another massive spike. That is precisely the point of a bimetallic standard.

[Caladonian]

Just invested into Inchain, lookin at Golem and Cosmos.

Golem is quite interesting, i'll keep an eye to it. Inchain can really be great if the aimed funds are achieved, you can imagine how much money they can get for insurance - everyone wants security of course.  I don't have any idea what Cosmos have but will read it later.  

Hope to see someone later with better view where crypto is going and can use the blockhain for his idea.

I also eyeing with this new ico project and i guess Inchain if successfully aim the needed amount hopefully they achieved and bring success.

[jacafbiz]

My three picks are Incent, Wings and Vdice.

Incent: because the concept is great and seems to be the one leading that idea from the decentralising angle, most people seems not to get the concept because if not the normal blockchain/ smart contract cliche

Wings: To me these guys seems to focus on the real development when compare to the Slockit DAO where their developers turned celebrity and lose the main plot. One day someone will get the DAO concept right and I think Wings team have a chance of doing so.

Vdice: Gambing is a big industry and Bitcoin has stolen part of the market, I think Vdice can create a niche for itself on Ethereum platform and what is luring me is the reward to investors