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November 01, 2016, 05:53:20 PM |
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I keep hearing people saying how the elections are rigged in order to make Hillary win. I just wonder if this is some sort of conspiracy theory or there is tangible evidence to support this claim?
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eduaro66
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November 01, 2016, 07:00:20 PM |
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I, too, as many have heard about it. And I think that's true. The elections will be very problematic. Someone very strong and influential rich support Hillary.
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November 01, 2016, 10:08:02 PM |
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The reason why so many people think the elections are rigged is because Donald Trump said so himself. As a Trump supporter, I don't believe that the entire system is rigged, although there is obvious voter fraud out there in certain states. It would be extremely difficult to rig the presidential election in all 50 states, since every individual state is like a separate election. All I am hoping for is a fair election, and for this reason, we need poll watchers to make sure there isn't any fraud.
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November 02, 2016, 12:16:32 AM |
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The reason why so many people think the elections are rigged is because Donald Trump said so himself. As a Trump supporter, I don't believe that the entire system is rigged, although there is obvious voter fraud out there in certain states. It would be extremely difficult to rig the presidential election in all 50 states, since every individual state is like a separate election. All I am hoping for is a fair election, and for this reason, we need poll watchers to make sure there isn't any fraud.
You only need the rigging in one or two key states.
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Tyrantt
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November 02, 2016, 10:13:18 AM |
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There are many voting frauds vids and posts on the internet, even vids on youtube are showing some rather obvius fraud attempts, it's hilrious
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November 02, 2016, 10:27:00 AM |
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The reason why so many people think the elections are rigged is because Donald Trump said so himself. As a Trump supporter, I don't believe that the entire system is rigged, although there is obvious voter fraud out there in certain states. It would be extremely difficult to rig the presidential election in all 50 states, since every individual state is like a separate election. All I am hoping for is a fair election, and for this reason, we need poll watchers to make sure there isn't any fraud.
You only need the rigging in one or two key states.That's true, but it's impossible in practice IMO. Nothing which is important can be hidden from public nowadays. There is always this inside guy who becomes sick of lying eventually and then he/she tells the truth to the world. So, no, elections in such a big country as the United States can't be rigged nowadays.
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November 02, 2016, 12:07:30 PM |
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That's true, but it's impossible in practice IMO. Nothing which is important can be hidden from public nowadays. There is always this inside guy who becomes sick of lying eventually and then he/she tells the truth to the world. So, no, elections in such a big country as the United States can't be rigged nowadays.
Impossible? In many states you don't even need to present id to vote, and dead people voting are not uncommon. Whistleblowers can simply be ignored by mainstream media, or discredited as unreliable sources. Even if they presented hard evidence, it could be dismissed as 'small scale' fraud with no impact on final results.
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November 02, 2016, 12:14:37 PM |
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Whether its being rigged or not, whoever will win will definitely win. And also it has never be proven anywhere in the world that elections are free and fair one hundred percent. I dont believe election in US will be totally infallible but for it being rigged is the issue but I think its the voice of people who are sure of losing so if Trump should win then we will assume its free and fair? On what basis just speculations without facts casting doubt on the system you are intending to uphold and ruled is a panacea to failure...
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November 02, 2016, 12:52:49 PM |
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That's true, but it's impossible in practice IMO. Nothing which is important can be hidden from public nowadays. There is always this inside guy who becomes sick of lying eventually and then he/she tells the truth to the world. So, no, elections in such a big country as the United States can't be rigged nowadays.
Impossible? In many states you don't even need to present id to vote, and dead people voting are not uncommon. Whistleblowers can simply be ignored by mainstream media, or discredited as unreliable sources. Even if they presented hard evidence, it could be dismissed as 'small scale' fraud with no impact on final results. But maybe because it was "'small scale' fraud with no impact on final results"? I mean in case if it wasn't we all would know about that. Yes, I undersatnd that it's impossible to arrange an absolutely fair elections and the evidences we have prove that, but I also think that all those frauds have no impact on final results.
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November 02, 2016, 01:19:38 PM |
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i think all politics will doing the same like what happen in US and we can see that there are many ways to make fraud, but i am sure that there are a good people behind on elections that wants all things work with the honesty and good results without any fraud.
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November 02, 2016, 01:43:37 PM |
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Elections are usually rigged by the higher ups in my opinion. Whoever wins barely matters because its the bigger people (see NWO) running the show or the surveillance agencies. Matter of the fact is that even if it isn't rigged people end up going back on the promises made in their campaigns so technically it ends up serving no distinction on who you voted for. Elections in most countries especially the major ones are mainly rigged or directed to vote in a particular person with the support of the media and influential people.
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November 02, 2016, 01:46:43 PM |
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Elections are usually rigged by the higher ups in my opinion. Whoever wins barely matters because its the bigger people (see NWO) running the show or the surveillance agencies. Matter of the fact is that even if it isn't rigged people end up going back on the promises made in their campaigns so technically it ends up serving no distinction on who you voted for. Elections in most countries especially the major ones are mainly rigged or directed to vote in a particular person with the support of the media and influential people.
Yep. Rigged elections is not exclusive of the context of turning votes. It's also a manipulation of desired income and that is even if it's still far from election. Now one thing to note should be - which campaign is the greater "rigger"..
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November 02, 2016, 01:54:06 PM |
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Yes elections are rigged. Here is your proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcxGGnmRQAsComputer programmer testifying in the senate regarding rigged voting machines where the software is designed to flip the vote to change the winner. 6 years ago... nothing has been done. They are all traitors, hang em high.
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clickerz
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November 02, 2016, 02:17:55 PM |
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I believe it is very possible to rigged an elections as there are complains surface after the election is finished. There are rumors maybe but from a losing candidate. Of course we want a transparent election,an honest to goodness one but there are elements who had bigger influence that can manipulate the results. This is only speculations but who knows.
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November 03, 2016, 07:57:47 AM |
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Does it matter? What you gonna do if they are rigged? Can you ever really be 100% certain? It doesn't matter who testifies about what, literally everything and everyone can be bought these days. Personally I don't see any point in spreading/discussing these rumors. Just let events unfold as they will.
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November 04, 2016, 08:23:21 AM |
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Does it matter? What you gonna do if they are rigged? Can you ever really be 100% certain? It doesn't matter who testifies about what, literally everything and everyone can be bought these days. Personally I don't see any point in spreading/discussing these rumors. Just let events unfold as they will.
yes, we can not do anything in the case of fraud. but just becomes a shame because in fact the government does not consider the opinion of the people. afraid to live in such conditions
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Masha Sha
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November 04, 2016, 09:45:28 AM |
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The question is will they get away with it? Like for their others activities...
The tree is dry nothing bad... just need to be refreshed.
However why shall the AI have do it?
Appart being heroes, what is their self interest in those pathetic matters...
Those clintons didn t become in one day... they are the scapegoat of older corrupt organizations.
After all it's an ideology bent on disrespecting the free will of another being, denying information to derail informed consent...
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November 04, 2016, 01:15:34 PM |
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I believe it is very possible to rigged an elections as there are complains surface after the election is finished. There are rumors maybe but from a losing candidate. Of course we want a transparent election,an honest to goodness one but there are elements who had bigger influence that can manipulate the results. This is only speculations but who knows.
I think the election is rigged but of course it just my speculation, it is really important to have a fair election, if the election is rigged we can see how is a country is shaped by cheaters, the country will be screwed, but to be honest i don't think both of them deserves to win
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Tyrantt
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November 04, 2016, 02:00:33 PM |
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I believe it is very possible to rigged an elections as there are complains surface after the election is finished. There are rumors maybe but from a losing candidate. Of course we want a transparent election,an honest to goodness one but there are elements who had bigger influence that can manipulate the results. This is only speculations but who knows.
I think the election is rigged but of course it just my speculation, it is really important to have a fair election, if the election is rigged we can see how is a country is shaped by cheaters, the country will be screwed, but to be honest i don't think both of them deserves to win Dude, there are ton of vids on youtube and articles from people who experienced it. I remember one where a woman was trying to press Trump but it kept highlighting the one below him, and that went a few times untill shenrequested to vote by paper. Also, in 17 states there are voting machines that are owned by Soros and we know what h e has to do with Clintons, btw the guy that helped create the software for voting machines usedbin US, said that they could be manipulated easly..
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