April 3 BFL ASIC update.

[tbd]

Yet the home page still (as of this writing) has a link to pre-order the 60 GH/s BitForce Single SC for $1299.

[mobodick]

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/25-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html

Pre-order Terms: Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013. Products are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 2 months or more after order. All sales are final.

As usual; Still bullshit.

Well at least they confirm they lost all previous bets on delivery...

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Somebody explain to me how an item not yet built can be out of stock.

[nagnagnag2]

Actually, I prefer this one:
 
https://products.butterflylabs.com/60gh-bitcoin-miner.html

Cheaper than a 25 Ghash/s !  

I'm wrong. It's $50 more expensive than a 25 Ghash/s 

[Turbor]

  wtf ?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Actually, I prefer this one:
 
https://products.butterflylabs.com/60gh-bitcoin-miner.html

Cheaper than a 25 Ghash/s !  

Just add it to your Wish List.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Oddly, they're changing the page now. https://products.butterflylabs.com/60gh-bitcoin-miner.html

[Entropy-uc]

I don't think they can deliver 50 GH/s in the form factor they are showing.  Actually, it's doubtful the 25 GH/s will work thermally either.

There will be more rounds of back-tracking before a product is shipped.

[Syke]

I don't think they can deliver 50 GH/s in the form factor they are showing.  Actually, it's doubtful the 25 GH/s will work thermally either.

There will be more rounds of back-tracking before a product is shipped.

I bet if they put the Single motherboard in the box of fans, that'll be fine.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Something tells me somebody at BFL monitors this forum, of which they are all on record to loath, for they sure got onto this issue quickly. Compare images taken about five minutes apart and only minutes after it was revealed.

[Entropy-uc]

I don't think they can deliver 50 GH/s in the form factor they are showing.  Actually, it's doubtful the 25 GH/s will work thermally either.

There will be more rounds of back-tracking before a product is shipped.

I bet if they put the Single motherboard in the box of fans, that'll be fine.

It's the power density on that board that will be the problem.  I don't want to be more specific than that because I wouldn't want to disillusion Josh about his imaginings on how I have a job with Intel.

An aquarium with mineral oil is about their only option. And that is really really messy.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Plug the USB cable into a host computer and run the supplied software. Additional Bitforce SC products can be added to the chain via a USB hub for linear performance multiplication with no overhead cost.

Like magic, when you add to the chain no electricity (read overhead cost) is used. Why even use a USB cable when the units can simply just talk to one another?

[MrTeal]

I don't think they can deliver 50 GH/s in the form factor they are showing.  Actually, it's doubtful the 25 GH/s will work thermally either.

There will be more rounds of back-tracking before a product is shipped.

I bet if they put the Single motherboard in the box of fans, that'll be fine.

It's the power density on that board that will be the problem.  I don't want to be more specific than that because I wouldn't want to disillusion Josh about his imaginings on how I have a job with Intel.

An aquarium with mineral oil is about their only option. And that is really really messy.

Out of curiosity, why do you say that the power density on the 25GH/s board will be too high? Even if they end up at 3J/GH that's still less power than their FPGA Single which has pretty much exactly the same form factor?

Or are you talking more about the power density of the substrate or die itself?

[Frankie Delaney]

New speed and pricing  

https://i.imgur.com/xeztESh.png

Oh, damn. the minirig is out of stock, thankfully, the other 3 are in stock, order now!

edit:

This was supposed to be a joke, but i was only 1gh/s off.
https://i.imgur.com/o6QHvEa.jpg

[Minor Miner]

Somebody explain to me how an item not yet built can be out of stock.

That just PROVES BoB did the right thing.   BFL must have been shipping to be completely sold out of minirigs.
LMFAO

[Phinnaeus Gage]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53530.0

This is about http://butterflylabs.com/products/  a company claiming to offer some very high performance dedicated mining hardware.

Initially pre-orders were offered for $500 but the price has since been raised to $699.  No units have shipped. They also clam to be taking preorders for a 50GH/s unit for $24,980.

There is a lot of justified skepticism about the realness of the advertised products.  I created the original thread because I thought, on the basis of the available data, that it was obviously a scam and I was worried that other bitcoiners were getting ripped off. At that point in time there was only a flashy website and a lot of tall promises. The subsequent disclosures have made me reconsider my initial quick judgement— today there is good evidence that some kind of actual hardware exists.

The other thread was becoming a bit large: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48863.0

Of course, speculation is going to be contentious, we're not going to all agree on the relative merits of the various bits of data available — but it would be best if people stuck to the facts and evidence.  If you have an irreconcilable difference in conclusions with someone, don't flame— take comfort in the fact that your superior knowledge will allow you to place profitable bets on the outcome.

And for those who made profitable bits on the outcome--DRAW!

[greyhawk]

That one was actually about the FPGAs, Phinn.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

That one was actually about the FPGAs, Phinn.

I see my error now. Thanks, GH. And thanks for directing me to the InstaWallet thread, albeit I was only two days behind.

[Dargo]

Now they've changed the Jalapeno to 5 Gh/$274. Can't seem to make up their mind, lol.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Now they've changed the Jalapeno to 5 Gh/$274. Can't seem to make up their mind, lol.

Somewhere in KC are two guys with a chicken in front of a computer laughing their motherfuckin' asses off.