April 3 BFL ASIC update.

[Morblias]

"Hey early orders, we will give you a discount!"

"Oh, to make up for that discount, we will need to increase prices by 100%"

Sigh...

[creativex]

I seem to have missed the bankruptcy warnings in their new update. :p Every time ASICMiner talks about shipping hardware BFL mysteriously grabs headlines.

This scam is closing in on zero hour IMO.

[Frankie Delaney]

"Hey early orders, we will give you a discount!"

"Oh, to make up for that discount, we will need to increase prices by 100%"

Sigh...

Hah, this makes it even more awesome. You can't use your early order discount until you recieve your order. They double prices and lower specs before the ship anything. A massive fuck you to investors who loaned them millions of dollars for 9 months.

[MrTeal]

Now they've changed the Jalapeno to 5 Gh/$274. Can't seem to make up their mind, lol.

They've promised to deliver the rated hashrate to customers, so a 25GH/s Little Single plus a 5GH/s Jalapeno would satisfy that, as would a 50GH/s Single plus two Jalapenos.

[creativex]

Now they've changed the Jalapeno to 5 Gh/$274. Can't seem to make up their mind, lol.

They've promised to deliver the rated hashrate to customers, so a 25GH/s Little Single plus a 5GH/s Jalapeno would satisfy that, as would a 50GH/s Single plus two Jalapenos.

Their promises have been anything but bankable to date.

[ninjarobot]

Now they've changed the Jalapeno to 5 Gh/$274. Can't seem to make up their mind, lol.

They've promised to deliver the rated hashrate to customers, so a 25GH/s Little Single plus a 5GH/s Jalapeno would satisfy that, as would a 50GH/s Single plus two Jalapenos.

Nailed it.

[glendall]

Order now and we'll thrown in a free 2nd Jalapeno for only $19.99 ...!   

That's 2000 GH/s for only three easy payments of $199.99... !

This offer won't last long so order now!

[wtfvanity]

"Hey early orders, we will give you a discount!"

"Oh, to make up for that discount, we will need to increase prices by 100%"

Sigh...

I'll sell someone my discount! It's worth double now!

[Unacceptable]

"Hey early orders, we will give you a discount!"

"Oh, to make up for that discount, we will need to increase prices by 100%"

Sigh...

I'll sell someone my discount! It's worth double now!

Actually the "discount" is worth 50% less...............its based on the OLD prices,so my 25% on $650 (30GH unit) is still $162.Now instead of $162 off $1300 its off of $2500.

Very disappointed........................................

[wtfvanity]

"Hey early orders, we will give you a discount!"

"Oh, to make up for that discount, we will need to increase prices by 100%"

Sigh...

I'll sell someone my discount! It's worth double now!

Actually the "discount" is worth 50% less...............its based on the OLD prices,so my 25% on $650 is still $162.Now instead of $162 off $1300 its off of $2500.

Very disappointed........................................

Yup, you're right. The discount dollar amount remains the same since it was based on what was originally paid. The discount is still the same even though the price of the machine increased.

Unreal.

[Entropy-uc]

I don't think they can deliver 50 GH/s in the form factor they are showing.  Actually, it's doubtful the 25 GH/s will work thermally either.

There will be more rounds of back-tracking before a product is shipped.

I bet if they put the Single motherboard in the box of fans, that'll be fine.

It's the power density on that board that will be the problem.  I don't want to be more specific than that because I wouldn't want to disillusion Josh about his imaginings on how I have a job with Intel.

An aquarium with mineral oil is about their only option. And that is really really messy.

Out of curiosity, why do you say that the power density on the 25GH/s board will be too high? Even if they end up at 3J/GH that's still less power than their FPGA Single which has pretty much exactly the same form factor?

Or are you talking more about the power density of the substrate or die itself?

yes.  too many watts in too small a space

[Frizz23]

yes.  too many watts in too small a space

[MrTeal]

I don't think they can deliver 50 GH/s in the form factor they are showing.  Actually, it's doubtful the 25 GH/s will work thermally either.

There will be more rounds of back-tracking before a product is shipped.

I bet if they put the Single motherboard in the box of fans, that'll be fine.

It's the power density on that board that will be the problem.  I don't want to be more specific than that because I wouldn't want to disillusion Josh about his imaginings on how I have a job with Intel.

An aquarium with mineral oil is about their only option. And that is really really messy.

Out of curiosity, why do you say that the power density on the 25GH/s board will be too high? Even if they end up at 3J/GH that's still less power than their FPGA Single which has pretty much exactly the same form factor?

Or are you talking more about the power density of the substrate or die itself?

yes.  too many watts in too small a space

Sorry, too many watts in too small a space for the PCB/enclosure, or too many watts out of a 56mm^2 die?

[hous]

I believe the phrase is a day late and a dollar short.  BFL is 150 days late and many watts short of their promised targets when customers were preordering items.

It always seemed strange to me that even before the ASICs were manufactured, BFL was busy creating plastic cases and shipping boxes.  Now all that is useless and wasted money since the Jalapeno is not going to look like the promised product.

GOOD POINT MAKING PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE ON THE LAST STAGES. UMMMM

[ziomik]

Dio mascio, that news of shit 

[wtfvanity]

yes.  too many watts in too small a space

 

[cosmicone]

They are still advertising the old bfl models even on this website...

[vvic]

Somebody explain to me how an item not yet built can be out of stock.

My uneducated guess would be is they realized that they won't be able to build it. Too hot, over 9000watt power consumption... So out of stock means they won't be making it. So those who bought it will either get equivalent in Japapeños + SC singles 
or simply quietly get refund those people. Or maybe in the fall they will come up with such device... Anyone else have their guesses?

[Frizz23]

My uneducated guess would be is they realized that they won't be able to build it. Too hot, over 9000watt power consumption...

[repentance]

My uneducated guess would be is they realized that they won't be able to build it. Too hot, over 9000watt power consumption... So out of stock means they won't be making it. So those who bought it will either get equivalent in Japapeños + SC singles 
or simply quietly get refund those people. Or maybe in the fall they will come up with such device... Anyone else have their guesses?

My maths brain's not working this morning.  The mini-rig was going to contain 192 boards of 8 chips.  Given that the chips/boards aren't performing as anticipated, how many of the sub-spec chips/boards will it take to make up 1500 GH and what will the power draw be?  Is the total wattage going to create issues for people (I'm on 240 v with 20 amp circuits but I know that the standard maximum load per circuit is different for those on lower voltages)?