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November 05, 2016, 03:01:56 AM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?
There are some policies that can be passed to try and force users of Bitcoin and other digital currencies into either hiding or dropping it all together, but realistically there isn't a lot they can do besides going after exchanges and trying to attack shops and companies that use Bitcoin. It's nearly impossible to attack specific individuals.
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November 05, 2016, 03:14:43 AM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?
actually it was considered by some countries that bitcoin is illegal of untrusted but in actual it is a legal and trusted .
some countries have banned it .
but now bitcoin legalisation in clear way is started .
i found a new topic ,it was mentioned that there needs for every user to verify his adress
 and multiple adress use needed to use verfied adress .
so it may be new way for development of bitcoin system .
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November 05, 2016, 03:43:29 AM
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To OP yes its already happening in our country.
What I am afraid of to happen, is the time will come that our transaction will be tax..

Yes its the KYC or know your customer policy is already implemented already in our local web wallet and the same time our local exchange in our country which needs personal informations and this exchange is the one I used to convert bitcoin to fiat. And also there is fee also when I'm going to withdraw so I have no choice but to follow their rules.
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November 05, 2016, 07:01:05 AM
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To OP yes its already happening in our country.
What I am afraid of to happen, is the time will come that our transaction will be tax..

Yes its the KYC or know your customer policy is already implemented already in our local web wallet and the same time our local exchange in our country which needs personal informations and this exchange is the one I used to convert bitcoin to fiat. And also there is fee also when I'm going to withdraw so I have no choice but to follow their rules.
When the government knows our real information it would be easy for them to trace our transaction and if they will try to question us or impose tax eventually then we have to comply with it so we will not face charges against the government.

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November 05, 2016, 07:16:35 PM
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There is possibility like few of the american, european and even china may implement limiation on bitcoin trading however government can't just stop all the bitcoin transactions in their country. So even there may be limitation in trading volume through legal exchanger people will keep on buying selling  with face to face deal in local level which can't be regulated for sure.

Legal limitation on local exchanger can surely effect the price as well as use cases of bitcoin in every country.
My worries is that is lots of people and banks or organizations are only trading bitcoin with the hop of selling it at a higher value, the slightest tendency that the price exchange rate might drop can be devastating for this entire market. One or two countries starting to regulate or banning bitcoin could start this collapse.
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November 05, 2016, 07:31:37 PM
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I have noticed the drop of the exchange rate in 2014. we market is able to recover because not much people was involved in the market back then, and as more and more new people start trading bitcoin, its value recovers slowly. But as the potential in popularity and penetration dies out, it's going to be harder and harder to recover from these drops.
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November 05, 2016, 07:42:17 PM
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I have noticed the drop of the exchange rate in 2014. we market is able to recover because not much people was involved in the market back then, and as more and more new people start trading bitcoin, its value recovers slowly. But as the potential in popularity and penetration dies out, it's going to be harder and harder to recover from these drops.
with time goes , the popularity of bitcoin keeps on increasing and that will help boost the value of bitcoin rather than witnessing a price drop ,as long as mining is profitable i do not think the price would drop that much, it is possible for the government to regulate bitcoin and impose a heavy tax on it and since this is a global currency it is a bit hard to counter it.
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November 05, 2016, 08:55:06 PM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?

well if a governments decides to to make laws in there country then it will be a dig deal to bitcoin and it further as no one person can have control of bitcoins or what bitcoins can be use to buy sell or make or even the way there are made so yes any government that thinks it can change what bitcoins stands for will be very devastating to bitcoin and the new currency markets.

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November 05, 2016, 10:59:26 PM
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There's a regulation that is already functioning for the exchange sites, like in my local exchange,we were required to comply with he KYC Policy and fill up all the information that is necessary. With that rules, we have no choice but to follow and i guess it's just fine because exchange sites are legitimate and they are operating with the license granted by the government.

What I am afraid of to happen, is the time will come that our transaction will be tax..

We cant do  anything about that  because its been required  by  the  government and exchangers would  have  no choice but to follow same as  you mentioned.  Its  somehow a good  move for exchangers   to be  registered  or legalized   because  we could  assure  ourselves  on the  legitimacy of a certain sites. You said that  you were afraid to  put or  impose taxes on our  bitcoin , its  an  impossible  thing   to be happen for sure.
Politics and economics have always been so tightly linked to each other. If one day bitcoin and other digital currencies become the main stream and replace centralized currencies, I am guessing there will be changes in government policies as well. After all the nature of bitcoin makes transactions harder to trace, which opens up windows for illegal activities. With this new form of market, the government quite possibly would end up having less and less control.
Any measure that governments or banks may wish to take will come way before bitcoins becomes the dominant currency, since if they wait for too long it will be too late since nothing could stop bitcoin at that point.

I would  tell you this bitcoin would never  become  a dominant currency even how   it would rise  up  on the future. It would  remain as  a digital currency and  nothing can replace  fiat  in any way. As  long  bitcoin cant be controlled its  not possible that  it would be regulated to impose taxes  to those  who  uses it.  If  government  would  able to  control bitcoin  then for sure we are all f*cked  up but  still im  confident  that  it wont happen.
Well, I was responding to an hypothetical scenario brought by another user, however while it may be very difficult to achieve dominant status is not impossible, if terrible economic crisis way worst than the 20 crisis affected the whole world for decades then there is the possibility people will turn their back to fiat and embrace bitcoin.
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November 06, 2016, 08:37:17 AM
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It is possible that government will make the regulation about bitcoin, in some country the government already has the draft for regulate bitcoin, and i think in the future government will try to meddle up in bitcoin, and nothing we can do to stop this


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November 06, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
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It is possible that government will make the regulation about bitcoin, in some country the government already has the draft for regulate bitcoin, and i think in the future government will try to meddle up in bitcoin, and nothing we can do to stop this

unfortunately you are right. The Government is strongly interested in the beginning cryptocurrency. Government not nravitsa that people too have begun to invest their money in Bitcoin. It attempts to regulate this sphere

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November 06, 2016, 10:22:35 AM
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The possibility is always there and we can not ignore it. Government regulations,whatever the purpose  I think it is to protect the users. Whether they after for taxes,a fee or any charges it is a government duties to implement they think what is good to the industry. Of course it will have resistance from users Smiley

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November 06, 2016, 12:09:12 PM
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It is possible that government will make the regulation about bitcoin, in some country the government already has the draft for regulate bitcoin, and i think in the future government will try to meddle up in bitcoin, and nothing we can do to stop this
definitely,it's just matter about the time until the government thinking it's the right time to release the bitcoin's regulation and start to tax many people
the right time is actually when bitcoin users in that country is just quite many and it's worthy to do the regulation

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November 06, 2016, 12:21:03 PM
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It is possible that government will make the regulation about bitcoin, in some country the government already has the draft for regulate bitcoin, and i think in the future government will try to meddle up in bitcoin, and nothing we can do to stop this
definitely,it's just matter about the time until the government thinking it's the right time to release the bitcoin's regulation and start to tax many people
the right time is actually when bitcoin users in that country is just quite many and it's worthy to do the regulation
Hopefully this would not happen.. this will be a game changer for us once government will intervene in bitcoin.. additional fees and taxes will surely be applied everytime there's a movement of coins and there's nothing we can do about it.

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November 06, 2016, 12:28:48 PM
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It is possible that government will make the regulation about bitcoin, in some country the government already has the draft for regulate bitcoin, and i think in the future government will try to meddle up in bitcoin, and nothing we can do to stop this
definitely,it's just matter about the time until the government thinking it's the right time to release the bitcoin's regulation and start to tax many people
the right time is actually when bitcoin users in that country is just quite many and it's worthy to do the regulation
Hopefully this would not happen.. this will be a game changer for us once government will intervene in bitcoin.. additional fees and taxes will surely be applied everytime there's a movement of coins and there's nothing we can do about it.

I also hope that this will not happen. Then Bitcoin will lose a lot of investors. State's better controls its currency.
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November 06, 2016, 01:20:04 PM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?

it is not yet changing any games and it may do it some day but for now bitcoin is too small especially with this block size to change any game in economy !

and so far the regulations have never been that extreme. i mean some countries made bitcoin illegal but those were always some third world country that noone cares about.
the countries like US is not doing it and even Japan has embraced bitcoin, so i think we can't expect anything bad in the future either.

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November 06, 2016, 01:35:25 PM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?

Yes.Any new government regulations can hit the cryptocurrency market.

Bitcoin and all the other altcoins are very vulnerable to such risk and this stops the mass adoption of btc.

Fortunately bitcoin is still small (only 10 billion USD market capitalization worldwide).


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November 06, 2016, 01:57:43 PM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?

Yes.Any new government regulations can hit the cryptocurrency market.

Bitcoin and all the other altcoins are very vulnerable to such risk and this stops the mass adoption of btc.

Fortunately bitcoin is still small (only 10 billion USD market capitalization worldwide).
I partially agree. To save and to use cryptocurrency in cryptocurrency we never need anyone's permission. Only when you need in for selling/buying cryptocurrency with fiats you may need to stick with in a government's regulations.

Any possible regulation from government will not stop the growth of the cryptocurrencies. Over in time, the mass adoption ot it and its advantages will enforce goverment to adopt cryptocurrencies as a legal one. Becasue, goverment is nohing but for people and by people.
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November 06, 2016, 02:40:27 PM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?

Yes.Any new government regulations can hit the cryptocurrency market.

Bitcoin and all the other altcoins are very vulnerable to such risk and this stops the mass adoption of btc.

Fortunately bitcoin is still small (only 10 billion USD market capitalization worldwide).



Though bitcoin seems to be small compared to the dollar, it had grown to such a level in a very short term as well got very huge adoption. Dollar to reach such status took large number of years. So when bitcoin survive more than 100 years the capital in terms of USD will be uncountable.

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November 06, 2016, 02:53:42 PM
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Since bitcoin and other digital currencies are such a game changer for the traditional economics systems, could there be any government policies that can be devastating to this new market? and even if governments in North America or Europe might not be able to do such things, how about policies from other more centralized countries that could bring the same effect?

I think we are already regulated in some point.  Exchanges in our country need us to supply our identities before encashing bitcoin to our currency.  This might be indirect but the third party exchanger are implementing this strict rule in order for us to cash more amount of money.  Unidentified account can only encash a daily amount of $42 while the verified account can encash a daily amount of at most $8000+.
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