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November 04, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
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What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

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You're obviously being sarcastic. People have different ways of doing things that seems completely normal, and that will aways create conflict when forced to live with each other. The only way it wouldn't be a problem is if more people were concerned with others and their feelings.
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November 05, 2016, 05:28:20 AM
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What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Why should anyone accept migrants? Countries in the Middle East and the Sub Saharan Africa must practice family planning and stop dumping their excess population elsewhere.

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November 05, 2016, 06:54:02 AM
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It is precisely for each country and culture of migrants - is the risk. And if they come to a foreign country, they should respect the local traditions and people. If they do not like - let them go home, because they are not forced to live in a foreign country
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It is precisely for each country and culture of migrants - is the risk. And if they come to a foreign country, they should respect the local traditions and people. If they do not like - let them go home, because they are not forced to live in a foreign country

Agree, by integrating they should respect their host county and following its laws and observed its customs. In that way a conflict is avoided. In the first place, a host country is living peacefully until the migrants are introduced.

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November 05, 2016, 02:49:40 PM
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You're obviously being sarcastic. People have different ways of doing things that seems completely normal, and that will aways create conflict when forced to live with each other. The only way it wouldn't be a problem is if more people were concerned with others and their feelings.

Not at all sarcastic. Sorry. So you aren't not only a cultural relativist but a believer in a western cultural supremacy with you as its central referal center. Are you gonna ban fgm or abortion?

The adoption of free will and informed consent excludes a lot of culture by definition. Those have the choice to perish (assimilate) or fight (and perish).

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It is precisely for each country and culture of migrants - is the risk. And if they come to a foreign country, they should respect the local traditions and people. If they do not like - let them go home, because they are not forced to live in a foreign country

If there is a need to respect the local customs and traditions, then the migrants will respect them. Examples are countries such as Russia, Qatar, and Japan. On the other hand, in countries such as the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom, the migrants don't feel like they need to respect the local customs and traditions.

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It is precisely for each country and culture of migrants - is the risk. And if they come to a foreign country, they should respect the local traditions and people. If they do not like - let them go home, because they are not forced to live in a foreign country

If there is a need to respect the local customs and traditions, then the migrants will respect them. Examples are countries such as Russia, Qatar, and Japan. On the other hand, in countries such as the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom, the migrants don't feel like they need to respect the local customs and traditions.

I call it bullshit because in every single of the above named nations alien criminals live and do criminal activities (especially russian mafia).

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November 05, 2016, 05:30:34 PM
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It is precisely for each country and culture of migrants - is the risk. And if they come to a foreign country, they should respect the local traditions and people. If they do not like - let them go home, because they are not forced to live in a foreign country

If there is a need to respect the local customs and traditions, then the migrants will respect them. Examples are countries such as Russia, Qatar, and Japan. On the other hand, in countries such as the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom, the migrants don't feel like they need to respect the local customs and traditions.

I call it bullshit because in every single of the above named nations alien criminals live and do criminal activities (especially russian mafia).

Why generalize. There are normal migrants, who do not become criminals, and not try to impose their own traditions to local residents.

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November 05, 2016, 05:34:01 PM
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What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

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Why generalize. There are normal migrants, who do not become criminals, and not try to impose their own traditions to local residents.

That depends upon the level of education of the immigrants. Unfortunately, countries such as the UK and the US prefer uneducated and often illiterate immigrants from the third world countries. These immigrants are not very interested in integrating with the majority population, and tend to live in ghettos predominantly populated by their own ethnic group.
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Every chinese with name Hui is muslim. (In Russian it mean Dick)

"Hui" is not a surname. It is the name of the ethnic group. The most common surnames for Hui people are Ma, Mu, Ha, Sai, Sha.etc. China knows how to integrate its Muslim population. There have been very few incidents of Islamic terror in mainland China, and the Muslim population there is stable for the last many decades.
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I do not immigrants. But if I come to a foreign country, it would not impose the public traditions. I would be grateful that I took a foreign country and tried to not to offend anyone
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"Hui" is not a surname. It is the name of the ethnic group.



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Every chinese with name Hui is muslim. (In Russian it mean Dick)

"Hui" is not a surname. It is the name of the ethnic group. The most common surnames for Hui people are Ma, Mu, Ha, Sai, Sha.etc. China knows how to integrate its Muslim population. There have been very few incidents of Islamic terror in mainland China, and the Muslim population there is stable for the last many decades.

You just dont hear it because their problems with buddhist monks in tibet, christians and falun gong members in mainland china are overshadowing it.

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November 06, 2016, 12:06:57 AM
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If migrants want to live in that country, they have to integrate and respect local laws, people and etc. But on the other hand they have to protect their national identity, traditions, but it shouldn't be against local laws.

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November 06, 2016, 12:11:39 AM
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If migrants want to live in that country, they have to integrate and respect local laws, people and etc. But on the other hand they have to protect their national identity, traditions, but it shouldn't be against local laws.

If You goes to China, do You will eat dog and cat meat to be integrated?
Why people from outside China or Corea give unwanted lessons about what to eat and what to eat not for a chinese?

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