Tesla's building a solar roof , It can be a good days for bitcoin miners?

[franky1]

Well you do all have your point of view but i still can see this as much better way of mining,, in addition to this thread i saw something relevant another user found something good

Note: it is BITMAIN  and one of the largest data center and other thing they call eat as a high standard mining which is the primary source of energy is from the wind or the solar ,, think twice then  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1672708.msg0#new

no bitmain are connected to the national grid.
the national grid are then connected to solar farms and windfarms

the solar panels and windfarms are paid for using government taxes to electric companies. as a grant. thus its "cheap" for the electric company as they did not need to cough up much to set it up

but if bitmain or anyone was to independently set up their own solar farm to be self sustainable and off-grid.. the costs compared to paying on-grid are not cheaper.

if you can get a government grant to set up solar panels to be self sufficient with no costs to yourself, then yes go solar. but if you have to buy it and install it yourself.. forget it.

even if you can get 'free' panels and free installation. the amount of roof space then limit what can be powered. so dont think you can rack and stack loads of units just because you have a roof of panels

[Karartma1]

Well you do all have your point of view but i still can see this as much better way of mining,, in addition to this thread i saw something relevant another user found something good

Note: it is BITMAIN  and one of the largest data center and other thing they call eat as a high standard mining which is the primary source of energy is from the wind or the solar ,, think twice then  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1672708.msg0#new

if you can get a government grant to set up solar panels to be self sufficient with no costs to yourself, then yes go solar. but if you have to buy it and install it yourself.. forget it.

I sadly confirm the above.
Really, forget about setting up your own solar roof if you don't get any gov grant. It sounds crazy but it is very difficult to unplug from the national grid.
If something bad happens then there's no insurance or coverage or even help if we decided to be off the grid.
All these things led me to forget about unplug my house from the national grid. I simply had no choice

[DimensionZ]

So would you buy Elon Musk's solar roof for your own house needs and not for crypto mining? He said one powerwall battery is enough to satisfy the energy needs of a 4 bedroom house if I am not mistaken. Well the initial costs of battery + tiles would be approx. $10 000 and above but in the long-term that should pay for itself, right?

[chixka000]

Well you do all have your point of view but i still can see this as much better way of mining,, in addition to this thread i saw something relevant another user found something good

Note: it is BITMAIN  and one of the largest data center and other thing they call eat as a high standard mining which is the primary source of energy is from the wind or the solar ,, think twice then  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1672708.msg0#new

no bitmain are connected to the national grid.
the national grid are then connected to solar farms and windfarms

the solar panels and windfarms are paid for using government taxes to electric companies. as a grant. thus its "cheap" for the electric company as they did not need to cough up much to set it up

but if bitmain or anyone was to independently set up their own solar farm to be self sustainable and off-grid.. the costs compared to paying on-grid are not cheaper.

if you can get a government grant to set up solar panels to be self sufficient with no costs to yourself, then yes go solar. but if you have to buy it and install it yourself.. forget it.

even if you can get 'free' panels and free installation. the amount of roof space then limit what can be powered. so dont think you can rack and stack loads of units just because you have a roof of panels

So are you going to agree with ne that this panels really has a potential for miners right?  I also believe that they could provide a lesser solar roof panel size, if then small miners can allocate the platform. Lesser panel size means lesser cost but i do have to agree with you that it would be more beneficial if the government can help you

[shinratensei_]

Well you do all have your point of view but i still can see this as much better way of mining,, in addition to this thread i saw something relevant another user found something good

Note: it is BITMAIN  and one of the largest data center and other thing they call eat as a high standard mining which is the primary source of energy is from the wind or the solar ,, think twice then  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1672708.msg0#new

if you can get a government grant to set up solar panels to be self sufficient with no costs to yourself, then yes go solar. but if you have to buy it and install it yourself.. forget it.

I sadly confirm the above.
Really, forget about setting up your own solar roof if you don't get any gov grant. It sounds crazy but it is very difficult to unplug from the national grid.
If something bad happens then there's no insurance or coverage or even help if we decided to be off the grid.

indeed, even a lot of solar panels are worth over a thousand dollars it's can disappear just for some second.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667666.msg16786161#msg16786161

[RealEstCoin]

What are your thoughts on wind trees? It seems like an alternative to solar.

Wind Trees Video

[xhomerx10]

What are your thoughts on wind trees? It seems like an alternative to solar.

Wind Trees Video

 That's pretty but I can't imagine there would be value in it for Bitcoin miners.  Also it's pretty low to the ground; how are you going to keep the kids out of it?

[Wind_FURY]

Small solar powered mining farms located around the world would be an ideal scenario for Bitcoin. At least that is one problem solved to make the network last for the long term. Imagine all the energy to do Proof of Work is all coming from the sun. That would be something.

[unamis76]

I think any new tech that can give us power in a greener way will always benefit Bitcoin mining. As for Tesla's roof in particular, as far as I've read, their price is very competitive, which is good. Eventually you can buy one of these with profits after you ROI and then you can power your house and mining rigs via solar power. Buying them straight away to start mining might affect your ROI quite heavily...

[chixka000]

I think any new tech that can give us power in a greener way will always benefit Bitcoin mining. As for Tesla's roof in particular, as far as I've read, their price is very competitive, which is good. Eventually you can buy one of these with profits after you ROI and then you can power your house and mining rigs via solar power. Buying them straight away to start mining might affect your ROI quite heavily...

Glad to see someone seeing this innovation as an opportunity to bitcoin miners. You have a great point there tho that for now, it is really something good that you purchase this item for personal use then start mining i supposed that it could really handle both small scale mining + personal usages.

[xuan87]

i think it's great to put solar panel for going green and saving electricity cost, however after the halving, the mining earning is not as good as before, plus the installment and purchasing solar panel is going to cost a lot, for me personally the ROI of using solar panel is longer than using usual electricity, so i don't think it can be profitable using solar panel

[Zadicar]

i think it's great to put solar panel for going green and saving electricity cost, however after the halving, the mining earning is not as good as before, plus the installment and purchasing solar panel is going to cost a lot, for me personally the ROI of using solar panel is longer than using usual electricity, so i don't think it can be profitable using solar panel

You are definitely right,  solar panels  are  good to  save  electricity  cost  but it  would  really  expense  you  out even  more   and   roi would  take too  long  and you cant be  sure  if  you got able to achieve roi  on  a particular time if  your  lucky enough   not  to  bust  up  all of your  rigs  but  if  you have the money to  put the  investment  on then process as  long you  know  you would  gain profits.

[dunfida]

Solar roofs  would   be also a good  idea  , twice the   usage because   it serves as  a shelter   and  also an energizer   on your  entire  house. I dont  think  it can support  miners     because i do  believe  miners  do require  lots   of electricity   especially  when you are building a  mining farm  those solar  panel of yours  would  not  be enough for sure.

[mk4]

It may be profitable in the long run, but I think it would take alot of years to make the money back. Also take into consideration damages and defects of those solar roofs.

[Carlsen]

Maybe they can evolve that technology until they are able to cover the front of a normal house with solar materials.
I am hoping on a color I can live with, not that uggly shining black stuff you normaly put on roofs.
Then it could really be used for powering miners, because the surface it covers would be much larger.

[Kprawn]

I think the main focus should not be the use of the solar power for the mining, but rather for cooling. Now suddenly mining can be done in warmer

areas, because the solar power can cancel out the extra cost needed for the extra Air conditioning needed in warm areas. You take this to a desert,

and you are on a level playing field with most other mining operation in colder areas. Most extra cooling is only needed in day time, because the

temperature at night is normally very cold in most deserts.

[chixka000]

I think the main focus should not be the use of the solar power for the mining, but rather for cooling. Now suddenly mining can be done in warmer

areas, because the solar power can cancel out the extra cost needed for the extra Air conditioning needed in warm areas. You take this to a desert,

and you are on a level playing field with most other mining operation in colder areas. Most extra cooling is only needed in day time, because the

temperature at night is normally very cold in most deserts.

Then used the solar panels for your ventilation then, I supposed that this panels can supply the needs of mining appliance and your personal appliance. So the place would really do still matter, of course, living in a colder place would be an advantage you don't have to use panels but in a hotter place it's a different story.

[franky1]

So are you going to agree with ne that this panels really has a potential for miners right?  I also believe that they could provide a lesser solar roof panel size, if then small miners can allocate the platform. Lesser panel size means lesser cost but i do have to agree with you that it would be more beneficial if the government can help you

lesser panel size = lesser electric production per panel = more panels needed

EG
1metre square single panel vs 100x 10cm panels does not mean 100x electricity..
it means the same electricity production at best for the same roof space.

the only difference is that the aesthetics (the look/appearance) is not noticeable with solar tiles.
its not showing that something the size of a dinner plate can produce electric the size of a old dining table. its just saying you can make dinner look more pretty by having it on plates

[BTCLovingDude]

I think the main focus should not be the use of the solar power for the mining, but rather for cooling. Now suddenly mining can be done in warmer

areas, because the solar power can cancel out the extra cost needed for the extra Air conditioning needed in warm areas. You take this to a desert,

and you are on a level playing field with most other mining operation in colder areas. Most extra cooling is only needed in day time, because the

temperature at night is normally very cold in most deserts.

i seriously doubt that it would be a good idea to move a mining operation to a desert which has temperature of 50°C = 122 F
you would be setting up for a big fail because no matter how much electricity you are genrating from the sun, you would be forced to spend double that amount for cooling during day! and you would still need a source of energy to run the mining farm during the night at 0°C

[rajasumi2]

i dont think that it will be easy for the miners because
-setup cost is not very cheap .it is quite expensive
-even in hotter countries also the setup is high
-as tesla said it can be made so there will be tough competition in the future..
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