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November 06, 2016, 03:51:20 AM
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None of them have ever posted a negative rating that is valid on me.
All of them made up lies to attack me over a personal comment i made that hurt their feelings.
Is that what the Trust Rating system is about ?

You all think you're elite scam busters but i have spent years taking them out at the knee's in the Altcoin section for years and amassed a huge list of names.

I HAVE been busting my damn ass exposing the corrupt pieces of shit and the thanks i get is my ratings don't count ? Really ? Seriously ?

I had asked before about having trust feedback removed and was told it was impossible
..by VOD (rudely i might add too)
And he has had a big nasty attitude with me since that day.

AND.. he has blatantly wandered around the forum for roughly two months trolling me a while back.
HIS OWN behavior is simply appealing and utterly ridiculous and CHILDISH.

You guys should feel ashamed.
You know damn fucking well i am trust worthy but you fucked my account over to be little assholes.
I know it and the whole scene knows it so your ratings etc mean shit all.
Neg -9999 and my word would mean far more around here than 1,000 VOD's or Kluge's etc

I am trusted.

All you guys do is use the rating system as a weapon to attack people YOU DO NOT LIKE.
I watched you all do it here for years.

- VOD
Negged me to get back at me over what started out as a joke.
I said people from where he lives (Alberta) are trailer trash we guys from "BC" think.
He got pissed right off and proceeded to attack me for months..
I thought it was obvious it was a joke.
And he was nasty about it too with his insults so i fed him some back IN RETURN..
I asked him about his PEDO report online i seen before.
So what did he do ?
He negged me AFTERWARDS calling *ME* a pedo... Really ? LOL  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

Like come fucking on guys ..how old are you ?

Next up we have..

- smoothie.
I posted a topic where his bum buddy Monero side kick apologized for some odd reason over Monero and the Monero marketing company he said he made etc.
I created the topic title using words from David's own quote(s).
This was perceived as BAD Monero news and i was swiftly ganged up on by all of them. (Monero Shill Crew / Foundation ?)
As they took turns trying to down play what happened and twisting it around in me saying i "lied"
When all did was quote what David himself said.

Smooth and smoothie both left me 2 neg's over that drama but Smooth removed his later.

Bottom line is i did nothing wrong.. David Latapie did and that is why he apologized so profusely.
Which i might add was the most intense apology i have ever seen on the internet.
And i posted the topic way back because i wanted to know WHAT he was apologizing for and to this day they all refuse to say 1 single word more about it all.. even though the French police were involved and Bitcoin etc was stolen.
I was told it was not my business and it was discussed off forum.

So ya pure raw 100% bullshit !
I didn't do a damn thing wrong.

next up..

- Kluge
Someone left me a scathing death threat that i have still hosted on Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/sDV6rWiB
..using a 1 post account named "SpoetnikIsFucked"
THEN.. Kluge sent me this weird ranting diatribe accusing me of being Bipolar mouthing me off
both within 14 minutes of each other randomly out of the blue.
I had not even had a PM back then when it happened for many many months or any after for ages.
Yet i am suppose to be believe it was a coincidence ? Really ?

So he leaves me a neg saying "Trust Abuse" with no ref link or explanation at all.
Why ?

What in the fuck did i do ? NOTHING.
Note: Neither account was used ever again last i checked a year or two later.
Normal behavior ? Kluge neg's me and never comes back the forum after 2 years ?
Yeah.. and I LOOK LIKE THE BAD ONE ?
I also had never talked to or about that Kluge guy before.. he came after me with no warning.
To this day i have no idea why.. but duh.. it's an alt account of ? hmm ?

All i know now is i gave a negative rating to a LEOcoin scammer and it does not show up for the public..
Because apparently i am not "trustworthy".

BULL FUCKING SHIT and YOU ALL know it !

You guys screwed me over here simply to be a jerk because you have personal issues of your own or looked the other way saying ahh well fuck Spoetnik he deserves it (as Poloniex guys stated to me more than once)

Scam Busters ?
You dimwits have not done 1 fraction of what i have around here and you know it.
I don't recall seeing even one of your bigshot superstar faces in the altcoin section last 3/4 years.
Your such big time hardcore scam busters ?
Where have you been for 4 years ? sure as hell not in ALT Main where all the coin scams are born.
Debunked a gambling site ? WOWWEEE i will get you a cookie LOL
Some of us are doing REAL WORK  Roll Eyes

Funny enough the ONLY time VOD showed his face in ALT / Main was when he was trolling the shit out of me with racist insults etc some months back.. other that the guy does not CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING there at all EVER.

Fuck your little trust rating bullshit.. it's YOUR loss not mine.
If my rating don't count then it's the people who suffer not me..

You all just need a reminder and put in your place.. big time hotshot cocky "Scam busters"
I am trusted in Crypto and it burns your ass bad.. no matter how bad you fuck my trust rating up on me.
It makes no difference.

hmmm theymos publicly said Monero was the best Altcoin ?

starting to make sense now huh ?  Cheesy

Forum = Joke ..i LOL  Grin  Cool
Like all things in life this is just a cock sucking contest.
It's simply about dipshits trying to make eBuddies to suck up to.
Not Trust..

I am disgusted because many of you could have stuck up for me since what i said is all old news.
But no one ever did.. you all just kept your head down.. classy  Roll Eyes

I have more cred than the whole trust user list combined.. and you all know it too  Cool
So carry on pretending you have all this super mega crypto cred guys.
Just realize you will NEVER be Spoetnik !

Go back to your Crypto-Eharmony buddy/buddy back-slapping circle jerk bullshit leet pro's hahahhah
I will see all of you when you change accounts and show up in ALT/Main shilling crap coins.  Cool

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November 06, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
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Have you tried talking to them directly? Quite some time has passed since you received some of these ratings. If there was ever any chance of getting some of them removed, I'd start with handling "Trust abuse" as two negative ratings on your are regarding this.

So he leaves me a neg saying "Trust Abuse" with no ref link or explanation at all.
Why ?
What in the fuck did i do ? NOTHING.
I guess Kluge left you a negative rating due to the negative rating that you left on their profile (1 more after). This is my best guess judging by the dates of trust ratings. So you did do something.

hmmm theymos publicly said Monero was the best Altcoin ?
starting to make sense now huh ?  Cheesy
Absurd assumptions such as this one would likely get you more trouble if anything.

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November 06, 2016, 10:59:32 AM
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Lauda i negged Kluge AFTER he did it to me for no reason.

And i was simply pointing out a very real link to theymos.
You all are free to come to your own conclusion on that.
Need more info simply dig around.. you will see a topic or two on Monero.
AND.. topics declaring theymos advocating Monero (and no other Altcoin ever)

Further more Lauda if memory serves me correctly you know i tried to work it out with these guys more than once
which is why i already created a topic long ago (a year ago or longer) trying to work it out with "them"
It got me no where..

Lets not play stupid here people.
What i alluded to was a fact.. crystal clear.

Many of you abuse the trust rating system then strut around like smug king shit holier than though mighty super cred dicks.

That topic where i asked to have it removed etc turned out to be nothing more than a stomping fest of jerks lining up to attack & insult me.
NONE OF YOU had one nice thing to say or were evil remotely civil.
You all lined up to take shots at me.. saying "who cares" you deserve it your an asshole etc.

NO.. i don't expect anything to change.
Why ? Because the root of the problem is petty childish losers who abuse the trust rating system.

Lauda do you have any bloody clue how much unfair bullshit i have gone through here ?
Call me paranoid all you want but i find it amusing when random accounts pop up either brand new or old accounts that never talk simply for one reason.. to come at me from out of no where with attacks & insults and more often than not guess what they bring up ?

..my trust rating.

THEN.. i have to go through and give everyone a long winded rant why i was given a negative trust rating.

Because all i ever hear is oh, "why should we trust a guy with a negative rating ?"
I have had it happen to me so many times i lost count.

I am trust worthy and people in influential positions or old users around crypto etc know this well.
ANY one of them would trust me in heart beat.. even the assholes who negged me.  Cheesy
And you all know it.

smoothie and smooth for example would trust me on a trade.. i dare them to say otherwise.
They wouldn't..

Further more i have had trade activity in the scene and i have never had to use an escrow in my life once.
And my trade activity record is flawless perfect.. with NO issues of any kind ever.
So what is left then ?
Apparently i committed some act that is deemed untrustworthy.
Well what is it ?
Ask David Latapie or the guy "Kluge" who almost certainly sent me death threats...... first.
Unprovoked.
Or VOD who seems mentally unstable to say the least..
Who apparently think he is Mr King of the trust rating system around here.

And would i see any of those names show up in the trust rating full list ? hmmm ?  Cheesy
Who are they friends with ?

If i negged any of these guys after the fact it was simply to give them a taste of their own medicine.
But what happened ?
I am the one who gets screwed on it and takes the blame for it because guys came at me with moronic crap first.

Blame the guy who came out at me swinging first.. not the guy who made a minor effort to stick up for himself.

I AM the VICTIM HERE so don't you all god damn dare try and spin this around.
I know because i seen a few of them mouthing me off saying i was "playing the victim" on the previous topic i made trying to get the trust removed etc and i said then.. yeah, because I AM !
Don't sit there and cop an attitude with me like this crap is acceptable.
Any one of you would be throwing a far worse hissy fit and you know it.

Conclusion here / Point ?
I will be linking this to my profile so i do not have to write a book explaining "my rating"
After all it will be used by shady characters around here to derail conversations and defend their scam coins.

And Lauda you know.. we go way back.
Back in mid 2013 you used to be active in the Altcoin section back when Quark came out..
I haven't seen you in there since pretty much.
BUT YOU KNOW DAMN WELL I HAVE BEEN IN THERE BUSTING MY ASS FOR 3 or 4 years since.

My trust rating crap is old news.
This has been an ongoing thing for ages around here / a known problem with many users.

I just want the scummy little smug douche's doing crap like this to be pointed out and laughed at.
They deserve a spotlight put on them... why let them get away with it ?

And it should serve as a warning to those whining around here about far less problems with their rating.
They all should know it's a farce and it's all controlled by DT boys and their alt account bum buddies and "eFriends".
It's about clique's & shit and who sucks up to whom around here.. THAT is what your Trust-rating is about.

Don't play along or advocate what ever scam coin "the trusted" is pushing around here then you will be BLACK-LISTED


As i have been.

I hold my head up god damn high and i defy any of you out there to provide one shred of proof i have done anything worse than the majority of people at Bitcointalk with good trust-ratings.

Is the Trust Rating suppose to be used as an attack tool or a part of an eFriends / bum-buddy popularity contest ?

And...
Lets see how many accounts YOU all have here before you run your mouth at me too..
Me ? i have only logged into this one.

So mouth me off.. ignore me.. i don't care.
I will be putting a link to this in my SIG and referring people to this topic for now on.
Why ?
SO i don't have to type out the explanation again (which often gets deleted by staff) when some NOOB account or old "enemy" (with personal issues with me) comes at me yet again *implying* i am untrustworthy for unspecified reasons in other conversations.

Take Note People: The accusations on me are usually left in place and my response is usually removed.

PS:
It's kind of hard to talk to Kluge when he never came back to the forum after negging me.
Or when i went to IRC and joined the Freenode channel fairly recently and was banned within 60 seconds.
What did they say.. hold on i will show you the quote..

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Session Start: Fri Oct 21 08:44:07 2016
Session Ident: #monero
03[08:44] * Now talking in #monero
03[08:44] * Topic is '[XMR] || Web: getmonero.org || Forum:
03[08:44] * Set by othe!~othe@coreteam.getmonero.org on Wed Sep 02 06:28:22 2015
[08:46] <moneromooo> piss off
[08:46] <moneromooo> othe: ban
[08:47] <moneromooo> spoetnik, known moron.
03[08:47] * othe sets mode: +b *!~Spoetnik@unaffiliated/spoetnik
[08:48] <saddam> lol

Sorry that was banned in 3 minutes LOL  Grin

Isolated random incident ?
Of course not i have gotten the same treatment from Cryptsy staff or Poloniex staff and then on the Ethereum IRC channel (by staff) all the same.. to name a few off the top of my head.

You all don't HAVE an excuse for this behavior .. you simply attack me, then say "i deserve it"
Fine.. but i WILL be pointing it out and making sure everyone sees what kind of hypocrites you all are.

And of course any single comment i ever made can be backed up..
Want Cryptsy or Poloniex or ETH channel proof say the word.. i log everything permanently.



EDIT:
I don't know a lot about how the system works technically..
But i am assuming because i have a negative rating here then if i give a user a negative rating then it will not be counted in.. in other words the majority of users will not say a change in their trust level.

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November 06, 2016, 11:15:27 AM
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Lauda i negged Kluge AFTER he did it to me for no reason.
Interesting. I can not confirm this though; only theymos has the time-stamped ratings I believe.

Lauda do you have any bloody clue how much unfair bullshit i have gone through here ?
No, I don't have the time nor willpower to read the backstory of each user.

And my trade activity record is flawless perfect.. with NO issues of any kind ever.
If you engaged in trades with some DT1/DT2 members, they may leave you positive ratings which would improve your trust rating FYI.

Or VOD who seems mentally unstable to say the least..
No, Vod is fine.

And Lauda you know.. we go way back.
Back in mid 2013 you used to be active in the Altcoin section back when Quark came out..
I haven't seen you in there since pretty much.
BUT YOU KNOW DAMN WELL I HAVE BEEN IN THERE BUSTING MY ASS FOR 3 or 4 years since.
Even though I do not recall the details anymore, I can pretty much confirm that this is true (up until the time that I was active in that section).

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It's kind of hard to talk ]
to Kluge when he never came back to the forum after negging me.
Okay, so Kluge is a no-go. I'd like to hear from Smoothie why you got that 'trust abuse' rating. At least that one could possibly get resolved.

Or when i went to IRC and joined the Freenode channel fairly recently and was banned within 60 seconds.
Now that's just stupid. I didn't know the Monero crowd was this toxic to outsiders.

But i am assuming because i have a negative rating here then if i give a user a negative rating then it will not be counted in.. in other words the majority of users will not say a change in their trust level.
No, that's not it. For the rating to count, you need to be either in Default Trust Depth 1 (aka DT1) or DT2. Everything else (which you fall into) is not visible by default.

Could you please keep these posts shorter? This is a bit hard to address.

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November 06, 2016, 11:38:08 AM
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Lauda think about it.. i said i never had anything to do with Kluge before.
I never talked to him him or even on the same topic as him and out of the blue he randomly sent me a PM i can share if you all want and then 14 minutes later i got a death threat by a 1 post account i reported months afterwards.

I must have done something.. yeah but he wasn't telling me LOL
I have to guess he had an alt-account here where i stepped on his feet.. probably over an Altcoin.

And VOD ?
Come on man half those comments where he showed up with racist insults in ALT main where he never talks you too were commenting RIGHT AFTER him.. if i go and dig up the comments and he did not cover his tracks with edits.. then i will be proven right.

What did i JUST SAY about eBuddies here ? LOL
You are doing it right right now Lauda.

There is no debate.. VOD acted like a childish wacko lunatic and spent roughly 2 months trolling me randomly on the forum REALLY BADLY and you often posted comments in tandem with him ..both of you showing up in sections you never talk in.. and now you're simply pretending he did not Troll up a storm ?
BULL shit .

Cross your fingers i don't check up the post quotes and lay them all out here for people to see.
Because the proof is there.. i just have to go get it and post it.
I was hoping you all would take my word for it but if you can't then i will of course back up my mouth.

VOD derailing conversations saying i am a welfare pedophile indian who does not pay his taxes..
Is not "stable" mental behavior bud.. regardless if you seem to be best friends with him here.

If a friend of mine screwed up i would admit it.. not cover for him.
But that is what separates me from all of you here.

I have far more credibility than most of you combined.
I have class and integrity.. i am accountable and abide by the rules as best i can.
I don't PRETEND i do, then act like the Trust Rating savior around here lecturing people etc.. like a hypocrite psycho mental case.



EDIT:
We need a council or tribunal to look at getting ratings removed in special cases i think.
Because all it takes is a guy or two to slap a stupid rating on you and BAM! you have "red trust" fervor and whole lot of re-explaining over & over..

EDIT2:
I am VERY reasonable and people know this too !
I had iGotSpots and BayAreaCoins leave me negative ratings before and i worked it out with them just fine.
So i have proven i can contact the users and work it out..
And AGAIN in both those cases it had NOTHING to do with any type of trade activity.. but Altcoin crap and "accusations on me"

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November 06, 2016, 11:44:31 AM
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Lauda think about it.. i said i never had anything to do with Kluge before.
I never talked to him him or even on the same topic as him and out of the blue he randomly sent me a PM i can share if you all want and then 14 minutes later i got a death threat by a 1 post account i reported months afterwards.
He does not have to talk to you in order to leave you a rating. That's how the current trust system works.

I must have done something.. yeah but he wasn't telling me LOL
He should have at least specified what it was, but that's too late now anyways.

What did i JUST SAY about eBuddies here ? LOL
You are doing it right right now Lauda.
No, I'm not. All I said is that they are fine, regarding the *mentally unstable* statement. I'm not going to waste my time looking into that. Remember, is this thread about *unjustified* negative ratings on you, or are you going to attack other people? Because if you are, then that will likely cause you even more trouble.

EDIT:
We need a council or tribunal to look at getting ratings removed in special cases i think.
That's not even a bad suggestion. There's a fair amount of invalid ratings, in addition to ratings that are just blatant trust abuse (although not visible by default). However, this would be harder to implement than you think.

This said, I'm not going to post further unless I see some input from the other side.

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November 08, 2016, 08:28:37 AM
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I will unlock my topic when there is an update.. as in any of the invalid ratings are removed.
So it won't be re-opened LOL

To say my expectations of most of you all here are low would be a ridiculous understatement  Cheesy

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