[Marketplace] Seller deleting and reposting bumps to hide rule violations.

[Lutpin]

As reporting of a specific scheme some seller use in order to hide their rule violations can get tricky in a single report,
this thread will serve as reference for those reports.
(It also can serve as reference for connected problems/rule violations, to keep Meta from cluttering up with single purpose threads.)


Seller 1: AmazonAWS
Thread in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669783.0
Archives of their violation: http://archive.is/mwNcK http://archive.is/ABcxk http://archive.is/SRHzK

[Cyrus]

Seller 1: AmazonAWS

Banned for 7 days, thanks.

[Lutpin]

Seller 2: Acerka
Thread in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1672341.0
Archives of their violation: http://archive.is/9Z9iJ http://archive.is/2gLQ2 http://archive.is/Y2rL6
Another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1672213.0
Archives aswell: http://archive.is/bg4Lj http://archive.is/xqxpI http://archive.is/zQ4N5

[Lutpin]

Seller 3: hashkey
Thread in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661118.0
Archives of their violations: http://archive.is/YEvvV http://archive.is/AHwed http://archive.is/aAaQd


Warned by hilarious here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661118.msg16835855#msg16835855

[botany]

hashkey still seems to be at it.
In multiple threads.

Sample of 1 thread.
http://archive.is/CibET
http://archive.is/vvrY4

[Lutpin]

Been some time, anyway.


Seller 4: ustradebitcoin
Thread in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702560.0
Archives of their violation: http://archive.is/eLKJL http://archive.is/Zw0DR
Another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697285.0
Archives aswell: http://archive.is/4oB5n http://archive.is/xvC8L

Another similar thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704601.0 (http://archive.is/xhQVQ).

Besides violating the forum rules by this kind of bumping, their threads are reasonably similar (all for domains) and should be listed together in the first place (at least in my opinion).

[Lutpin]

Not directly related, as the seller is not deleting the previous bumps, but still a rule violation, and I need a reference for my report, so here we go.


Seller 5: LGG4

Thread in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728122.0
Archives of their violation: http://archive.is/XQMtv#90% (Thread being bumped 4 times in a matter of 24 hours)

Another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1727616.0
Archives aswell: http://archive.is/oPuXU#65% (Aswell been bumped 4 times in 24 hours)

And one more thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728085.0
Archives aswell: http://archive.is/Vkfz8#88% (Same here, bumped 4 times in 24 hours)

Next thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729130.0
Archives aswell: http://archive.is/UZK2G#80% (Thread made today, bumped 2 times already)

Going on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1726711.0
Archives aswell: http://archive.is/cqg97#75% (Bumped 4 times + 1 answer to a question)


Further, those are all for digital accounts of some sort and might aswell be listed together.

[FFrankie]

I think this user should have a single thread instead of 3

Magnavox u=397157

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1725096.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729388.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=871593.0

[Cyrus]

Seller 4: ustradebitcoin

Seller 5: LGG4

Banned them for 7 days. Thanks.

[Quickseller]

Seller 4: ustradebitcoin

Seller 5: LGG4

Banned them for 7 days. Thanks.

Out of curiosity, were these people warned in some way previously, or do we no longer give out warnings?

[SaltySpitoon]

Out of curiosity, were these people warned in some way previously, or do we no longer give out warnings?

If someone is overbumping, they are typically warned. If they are making an effort to delete their posts and rebump as a workaround an established rule, that means they obviously know about the bumping rule and are knowingly breaking it. Warnings are set in place for those who don't know the rules, need a reminder, etc, not as a cushion for those who think they will be safe breaking the rules expecting a warning shot before the hammer.

[hilariousandco]

Seller 4: ustradebitcoin

Seller 5: LGG4

Banned them for 7 days. Thanks.

Out of curiosity, were these people warned in some way previously, or do we no longer give out warnings?

I give out warnings if they're reported as bump spamming but if they ignore it they get a ban. It's getting annoying though and difficult to enforce effectively. Far too many scammers just coming back on alt accounts and spam bumping day after day. I seemingly spend half of my time here removing bumps and nuking banned digital good spammer scammers.

[Quickseller]

Out of curiosity, were these people warned in some way previously, or do we no longer give out warnings?

If someone is overbumping, they are typically warned. If they are making an effort to delete their posts and rebump as a workaround an established rule, that means they obviously know about the bumping rule and are knowingly breaking it. Warnings are set in place for those who don't know the rules, need a reminder, etc, not as a cushion for those who think they will be safe breaking the rules expecting a warning shot before the hammer.

Deleting old bumps, and limiting bumps to once every 24 hours are two separate rules.

Deleting old bumps (should be) a rule on pretty much every marketplace like forum, plus deleting old bumps keeps the seller's thread "clean" and easy to read.

The 24 hour limit on bump frequency is an arbitrary time (which I agree is a fair amount of time), which may be different in other marketplace forums. Some forums may limit bumps to every 24 hours, others may limit bumps to every 72 hours and others may limit bumps to every 6 hours. I don't think it is fair to say that someone knows that bumps should be limited to once every 24 hours just because they remove old bumps.

Seller 4: ustradebitcoin

Seller 5: LGG4

Banned them for 7 days. Thanks.

Out of curiosity, were these people warned in some way previously, or do we no longer give out warnings?

I give out warnings if they're reported as bump spamming but if they ignore it they get a ban. It's getting annoying though and difficult to enforce effectively. Far too many scammers just coming back on alt accounts and spam bumping day after day. I seemingly spend half of my time here removing bumps and nuking banned digital good spammer scammers.

Admins have the ability to write notes on user's accounts that are not visible to others. There should be an option to allow some of these notes to be visible to other moderators.

Also some moderators will post asking users to delete old bumps after they delete old bumps, this serves both as a warning to the specific user, and allows this rule to be more visible.