Will mobile devices serve as BTC full nodes in the future?

[Abiky]

well why not. bitcoins can be stored through bitcoin wallet by downloading an app and it is the best for u. so start from today onwards ..so do bitcoining ..kudoos

Sure. But I was looking more into getting rewards for Bitcoin that I'm planning to hold long term, as once you have some amount of BTC into your wallet it stays the same without ever growing into more coins. With masternodes, then I can have some amount of Dash as collateral and be able to receive some sort of interest earnings as reward. I would try lending my BTC, but I think that it is far too risky than running a Dash masternode at home instead.

Also, I'm looking for a guide or tutorial to learn more about how Dash masternodes work. If you or anybody else, can provide me with quick links to this, I would greatly appreciate it. 

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[MingLee]

The Bitcoin blockchain has been the biggest one in size, compared to other blockchains, thus making sync time take quite some time. Nevertheless, as storage capacity increases each time, we've now seen new standards for mobile devices like a 200GB microSD card.

Now, storage like 200GB is far than enough to store Bitcoin blockchain data. So my question is, will there exist a possibility of running a full node from within your mobile device sometime in the future?

It would be ideal to achieve this, since mobile devices are much more accessible than PCs. Looking forward for your opinion about this. 

Unlikely. If you would go and look at a majority of the prices on devices that exist, 64gigs is the maximum amount of data you can consider being viable, and that costs hundreds of dollars, and considerably more than a 200g USB or whatever.

Mobile devices are not anywhere close to being viable for nodes.

Also what are these 200g micorSD cards setting a new standard? I have yet to see a single company roll them out. Apple, Android manufacturers, none of them are using it.

[Abiky]

Unlikely. If you would go and look at a majority of the prices on devices that exist, 64gigs is the maximum amount of data you can consider being viable, and that costs hundreds of dollars, and considerably more than a 200g USB or whatever.

Mobile devices are not anywhere close to being viable for nodes.

Also what are these 200g micorSD cards setting a new standard? I have yet to see a single company roll them out. Apple, Android manufacturers, none of them are using it.

That is certainly true considering the high costs of storage that would be needed in order to have a full node running at optimum condition from within the mobile device. Also, I don't think that current mobile devices would be able to handle running for hours just to run a full node (involving constant read/write, among others factors.) Nevertheless, I think that someday in the future, the possibility of running a full node at optimum condition on the mobile device would become a reality thus making the BTC network stronger than ever.

By the way, if you mean that Apple nor Android manufacturers aren't using 200GB microSD cards, then I think that you should take a look at the HTC Desire 626s, in which according to its specs, it aims to support 200GB microSD cards.  It's not that much of a deal (in terms of price per storage), but its worth looking into, especially the brand new microSD cards with higher read/write speeds (called UHS-II)

[Abiky]

I think it can store all my bitcoinsin my phone .and why not will it store .and why not sell it once in a month .it will be more useful .

Yeah. While it is possible to store Bitcoin on your phone or mobile device, it still lacks the ability to serve as a full node. Convenience is key when you want to become fully synced in the blockchain from within your mobile device by running these wallets, but I think that it could do better by enabling every device to help support the Bitcoin network.

As storage capacity and network speeds increase over time, I think that we may not be too far from seeing a smartphone to become used as a full node. It all needs the necessary hardware performance like strong CPU, better cooling, and increased storage capacity to be able to achieve this on any mobile device. Just sharing my thoughts. 

[eternalgloom]

I do not think the mobile device will be a good idea to store the bitcoin block chain. It is better for the desk top.

You haven't even read the title properly, he's talking about using mobile phones to run a full node in the future, which I think should be perfectly possible, since technological development for these devices is going at a fast and steady pace.

Plus most people have their devices powered on 24/7 and I do expect battery longevity will also improve, though that will take a bit longer than the rest (space, bandwith & processing power)

[iram3130]

Well, Mobile devices are the future. For us, for communication, for most of our daily works and as bitcoin is becoming an integral part of our life, it would be a great thing to think about using mobile devices as BTC full nodes. It is possible and will be a great addition to out daily life. 

[Jet Cash]

What do you call a mobile device? I run a full node on a mobile device without any problems - it's an HP core i5 notebook, and I use public WiFi.

[SirChiko]

With still rising computing capacity of mobile phones yes it would be easily possible in my eyes but it also depends if you mean it as staying on wifi and work only as a node or  if you want to go out on mobile data, use the phone meanwhile and have the node running in background.

[Denker]

What do you call a mobile device? I run a full node on a mobile device without any problems - it's an HP core i5 notebook, and I use public WiFi.

Lol yeah this is a great comment.
Sure notebooks, laptops are mobile devices too.
But I think OP is more talking about smart phones or tablets.
And for those devices I don't think we will have a possibility to run a full node in the future.Mostly due to memory space probs.
Also this is not really necessary imo.

[Soros Shorts]

What do you call a mobile device? I run a full node on a mobile device without any problems - it's an HP core i5 notebook, and I use public WiFi.

I think I've asked this before. How do you port-forward port 8333 to your node on public WiFi. Almost all public WiFi give you a NATted private IP address and I doubt they open AND forward port 8333. Most likely you are not running a full node and you only have 8 outgoing connections and 0 incoming.

To answer the OP, I doubt mobile devices will every be the primary type of node that supports the network. Although it currently is possible to run a full node on a 4G mobile device, it is neither practical nor cost effective. Currently from a cost perspective it is bad enough to run a server-based full-node. Why would anyone run it on a mobile? In future if blockchain resource consumption does not increase as fast as technological improvements then maybe we will see more mobile full nodes. But then again, I'd expect there to be far more PC or server full nodes.

[shield132]

What Abiky says is really great idea, I don't know why it wasn't already thinked while this blockchain and whole things would be created. I think this technology must be improved and there won't be need of high amount of free storage and if it will be integrated in cloud storages, especially developed and designed for different bitcoin wallets and of course mainly focused on bitcoin core.

[thepo1m]

Maybe in future, but presently I don't think moile devices are designed and suitable for that purpose, there is no doubt it will greatly help but significant improvement is required

[Grinface]

My new tablet can run an bitcoin node. It weight just 0.6kg and 15hours battery. I have run a masternode on it using a very fast 4G mobile network. I have not checked if there are a mobile phone to run it but there probably are. Same hardware would fit in a phone.

[Abiky]

Maybe in future, but presently I don't think moile devices are designed and suitable for that purpose, there is no doubt it will greatly help but significant improvement is required

Exactly. Manufacturers would need to create high end devices that would be able to accomplish this task. As time goes by, more people would become interested into Bitcoin, thus bringing a huge interest into setting up full nodes from within everyday devices, and help decentralize Bitcoin even further. As smartphones and tablets are the most accessible devices around for everyday use, it would probably serve the purpose to strengthen Bitcoin sometime in the future. Just my opinion. 

[BoXXoB]

If mobile device means a tablet or smartphone I don't see it happening anytime soon. Nor is there really any reason for this as someone has already stated there's no need to have constant access to the chain but rather quick access to hotwallet funds which is easily achieved.

If anyone disagrees, what would be the ultimate benefit of having full chain on, let's say, a mobile phone?

[aso118]

This will not happen in developing countries, where data charges are a bomb.
Even if hardware development makes it possible to run BTC full nodes on mobile phones, we will have to overcome greedy telecom companies who charge whatever they can for mobile internet.

[densuj]

I do not think the mobile device will be a good idea to store the bitcoin block chain. It is better for the desk top.

I agree with you, although there are micro SD with large of space but still there are problem mobile devices Will be hang because of running out of source power.
And i think The fungtion of mobile devices are not for to store the bitcoins block chain, mobile devices are just for calling and sending messages.

[SirChiko]

I do not think the mobile device will be a good idea to store the bitcoin block chain. It is better for the desk top.

I agree with you, although there are micro SD with large of space but still there are problem mobile devices Will be hang because of running out of source power.
And i think The fungtion of mobile devices are not for to store the bitcoins block chain, mobile devices are just for calling and sending messages.

I don't think that would be problem to create battery with higher capacity and also what abou power bankss? They can recharge your device multiple times.

[Abiky]

I don't think that would be problem to create battery with higher capacity and also what abou power bankss? They can recharge your device multiple times.

Yeah. There are many powerful batteries on the market that aims to charge several mobile devices on a single charge. Power capacity grows over time at a fast rate giving us high rates of power that would make your devices last for longer. However, the main issue here would be the high-end hardware needed, to help run the full node while at the same time have the capacity to run other apps in the background. If manufacturers decide to take the path towards making the possibility of running a full node from within any single device, then anyone would run a full node thus making the cryptocurrency more decentralized than ever.

As 21 Inc released mining chips for smartphones, then I have no doubt that the possibility to run a full node from within any smartphone or tablet will become a reality. Another thing to consider would be mobile data costs, which would limit the ability to run a full node even further. Just my opinion.