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November 08, 2016, 10:28:57 PM
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Who: creepland and his alt xfaucets
Status: scammed 0.1 BTC

Facts:
1.- he asked for a loan with verified message from his 2014 address here
2.- he offers me the password without escrow with PM id #5358385
3.- i assume (otherwise i wont know how these things are possible on this forum) that he faked to logoff and changed back his password while i was still logged on his account.
4.- seclog shows first change of password before to send me PM and second change of password after 10 minutes (which wasnt me)
5.- i PMed him and his alt xfaucets kindly explaining the issue but he didnt answer and i could see him logged in and clearly ignoring my PMs

So i dunno how cookies and shits like that work on this forum but i have 2 considerations:
1.- i was logged in his account and i changed his password, then i sent the funds and then i was still logged in ready to change his email
2.- if it was a mistake i will apology for this open accusation but if he was in good faith he shoudnt have changed his password again and should have answered my PMs about the issue.

If he is so miserable, he will have to mess with his karma...please if any DT wanna mark him and his alt so no other members would get scammed. I provided PM id if any staff want/need to verify and if asked i can provide PM screenshots.
Thanks!
~Gun

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November 08, 2016, 11:08:22 PM
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Lenders should really stop taking accounts for collateral. The forum would benefit tremendously.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein
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November 08, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
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Lenders should really stop taking accounts for collateral. The forum would benefit tremendously.

I been the first one with an active proposal like this to all lenders (reference) but it got ignored or some of them (DS) promised to adhere but fooled.
Result: my business got drawn while other lenders continued (because the real reason aint on lenders side...account sales shoudnt be allowed by forum rules)

I'm not whining here because that scumbag got 0.1 from my pockets, i'm a lender i know the risks. I'm writing here in order to alert others about that user and trying to protect others from him. Now, if you would be so constructive to mark him red until issue is solved, it would be great from you (as your contributions are usually constructive).
Thanks.

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November 08, 2016, 11:36:50 PM
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Im also curious to why you would have the account marked with red trust? Isn't the point of taking an account as collateral so you can sell it if the loan is defaulted?
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November 08, 2016, 11:43:04 PM
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Im also curious to why you would have the account marked with red trust? Isn't the point of taking an account as collateral so you can sell it if the loan is defaulted?
Personally i dont sell defaulted accounts as i'm against account farmers. I park them with a lost password using their signature to advertise my services.
References, see these users signatures for example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=204683
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663738
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557788

In this case tho, the user did reset his password while i was securing his account as collateral so he got the money, faked to logoff and then fastly changed his passwrod again and poofed.
So he is still around with that account and his alt. A red mark from DT like KWH did, will alert future potential scams from him.

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November 09, 2016, 06:12:19 AM
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Well, I guess you haven't got a good chance of him paying you back right now but yeah, keep in mind that there isn't a good demand for loan default accounts. You should probably consider a person's trust over account collateral.
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November 25, 2016, 05:48:29 PM
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Im also curious to why you would have the account marked with red trust? Isn't the point of taking an account as collateral so you can sell it if the loan is defaulted?
Personally i dont sell defaulted accounts as i'm against account farmers. I park them with a lost password using their signature to advertise my services.
References, see these users signatures for example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=204683
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663738
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557788

In this case tho, the user did reset his password while i was securing his account as collateral so he got the money, faked to logoff and then fastly changed his passwrod again and poofed.
So he is still around with that account and his alt. A red mark from DT like KWH did, will alert future potential scams from him.


Lol you know the best why how to use the defaulted loan accounts in the best way  Grin
But have you ever got a Sr. Member or hero member account who failed to repay the loan...
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November 25, 2016, 05:50:48 PM
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Im also curious to why you would have the account marked with red trust? Isn't the point of taking an account as collateral so you can sell it if the loan is defaulted?
Personally i dont sell defaulted accounts as i'm against account farmers. I park them with a lost password using their signature to advertise my services.
References, see these users signatures for example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=204683
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=663738
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557788

In this case tho, the user did reset his password while i was securing his account as collateral so he got the money, faked to logoff and then fastly changed his passwrod again and poofed.
So he is still around with that account and his alt. A red mark from DT like KWH did, will alert future potential scams from him.


Lol you know the best why how to use the defaulted loan accounts in the best way  Grin
But have you ever got a Sr. Member or hero member account who failed to repay the loan...

Oh i got something better https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=9730

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November 25, 2016, 06:08:39 PM
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Who: creepland and his alt xfaucets
Status: scammed 0.1 BTC

Facts:
1.- he asked for a loan with verified message from his 2014 address here
2.- he offers me the password without escrow with PM id #5358385
3.- i assume (otherwise i wont know how these things are possible on this forum) that he faked to logoff and changed back his password while i was still logged on his account.
4.- seclog shows first change of password before to send me PM and second change of password after 10 minutes (which wasnt me)
5.- i PMed him and his alt xfaucets kindly explaining the issue but he didnt answer and i could see him logged in and clearly ignoring my PMs

So i dunno how cookies and shits like that work on this forum but i have 2 considerations:
1.- i was logged in his account and i changed his password, then i sent the funds and then i was still logged in ready to change his email
2.- if it was a mistake i will apology for this open accusation but if he was in good faith he shoudnt have changed his password again and should have answered my PMs about the issue.

If he is so miserable, he will have to mess with his karma...please if any DT wanna mark him and his alt so no other members would get scammed. I provided PM id if any staff want/need to verify and if asked i can provide PM screenshots.
Thanks!
~Gun

Thanks for sharing bro, I don't support the sale of accounts on this platform either but it seems that's the norm for a lot of scammers here. I would only advice that going forward you'd be careful with the people you deal with on this forum.
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November 26, 2016, 02:50:24 AM
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Yeah, Thanks for this Gunthar. I didn't know it was possible to be logged in to the same account at the same time and from different browser and IP? 

I actually remember this guy. He created a thread, couple months back asking about, if and how he could become an escrow. Said he'd be willing to send his details and all. Plenty of people explained/tried to help him. Turns out he really was just interested to scam. probably thought it was too much work building up his trades/rep to get to the big deals.  Shocked

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589703.0

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