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January 09, 2017, 02:15:35 AM
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With Bush and Obama's tenure as the President of the USA, i will say that the USA is no longer the leader of free world, They go around acting as Kingmakers, dethroning and enthroning governments, why dont they go to Saudi Arabia.
Wrong! America has always been the leader of the democratic world. Trump is of course somewhat undermines the credibility of the United States, but that does not mean that the principles of American society will become less attractive for the whole world.

Please explain how he undermines the "credibility" of the United States. In my opinion, Hillary could have undermined the credibility, as she is warmonger. Trump, on the other hand adds to the credibility, as he is against foreign military interventions.
Isn't Trump supposed to be a thief(note he called the judge, racially biased and this "newspaper" is a first link result for Donald Trump Scandals)? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/donald-trump-scandals/474726/, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us/politics/donald-trump-trump-university.html?_r=0. Seriously, forcing people to make good reviews about your company even though said reviewer might not think that way is never ok. The only reason someone would want to associate themselves with Trump is if they were paid, or forced to(I'm probably just bullshitting here, but this is just from what I garnered from his history). Even his fellow republicans called him a racist.
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January 09, 2017, 04:20:31 AM
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With Bush and Obama's tenure as the President of the USA, i will say that the USA is no longer the leader of free world, They go around acting as Kingmakers, dethroning and enthroning governments, why dont they go to Saudi Arabia.
Wrong! America has always been the leader of the democratic world. Trump is of course somewhat undermines the credibility of the United States, but that does not mean that the principles of American society will become less attractive for the whole world.

Please explain how he undermines the "credibility" of the United States. In my opinion, Hillary could have undermined the credibility, as she is warmonger. Trump, on the other hand adds to the credibility, as he is against foreign military interventions.
Isn't Trump supposed to be a thief(note he called the judge, racially biased and this "newspaper" is a first link result for Donald Trump Scandals)? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/donald-trump-scandals/474726/, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us/politics/donald-trump-trump-university.html?_r=0. Seriously, forcing people to make good reviews about your company even though said reviewer might not think that way is never ok. The only reason someone would want to associate themselves with Trump is if they were paid, or forced to(I'm probably just bullshitting here, but this is just from what I garnered from his history). Even his fellow republicans called him a racist.

Many people make judgments about all kinds of things all day long. Did you make a judgement about how good or bad your last meal was? Making judgments isn't limited to court judges. They aren't God. Often they are stupid. Often they are prejudiced in favor of their private BAR organization. Many times the act racially... in favor of their race... a thing we call Government.

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January 09, 2017, 05:45:25 AM
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he called the judge, racially biased

He called him racially biased, since he had history of making biased judgements based on race. Search about Gonzalo Curiel in Google, and you will be able to check the scandals associated with his past rulings.

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January 09, 2017, 01:21:25 PM
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With Bush and Obama's tenure as the President of the USA, i will say that the USA is no longer the leader of free world, They go around acting as Kingmakers, dethroning and enthroning governments, why dont they go to Saudi Arabia.
Wrong! America has always been the leader of the democratic world. Trump is of course somewhat undermines the credibility of the United States, but that does not mean that the principles of American society will become less attractive for the whole world.

Please explain how he undermines the "credibility" of the United States. In my opinion, Hillary could have undermined the credibility, as she is warmonger. Trump, on the other hand adds to the credibility, as he is against foreign military interventions.
Isn't Trump supposed to be a thief(note he called the judge, racially biased and this "newspaper" is a first link result for Donald Trump Scandals)? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/donald-trump-scandals/474726/, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us/politics/donald-trump-trump-university.html?_r=0. Seriously, forcing people to make good reviews about your company even though said reviewer might not think that way is never ok. The only reason someone would want to associate themselves with Trump is if they were paid, or forced to(I'm probably just bullshitting here, but this is just from what I garnered from his history). Even his fellow republicans called him a racist.

The judge WAS INFACT racially bias..

He was a large proponent of illegal immigration having to do with giving specifically illegal immigrants free stuff college grants..

Trump was correct as usual..

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January 09, 2017, 04:46:00 PM
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- Genocide of the Natives tribes.

- Slavery

How could a people be sooo brainwashed to believe that...

Commie propaganda. It was the European immigrants that killed the natives tribes. They became Americans later..

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January 09, 2017, 04:53:02 PM
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With Bush and Obama's tenure as the President of the USA, i will say that the USA is no longer the leader of free world, They go around acting as Kingmakers, dethroning and enthroning governments, why dont they go to Saudi Arabia.
Wrong! America has always been the leader of the democratic world. Trump is of course somewhat undermines the credibility of the United States, but that does not mean that the principles of American society will become less attractive for the whole world.

Please explain how he undermines the "credibility" of the United States. In my opinion, Hillary could have undermined the credibility, as she is warmonger. Trump, on the other hand adds to the credibility, as he is against foreign military interventions.
Isn't Trump supposed to be a thief(note he called the judge, racially biased and this "newspaper" is a first link result for Donald Trump Scandals)? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/donald-trump-scandals/474726/, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us/politics/donald-trump-trump-university.html?_r=0. Seriously, forcing people to make good reviews about your company even though said reviewer might not think that way is never ok. The only reason someone would want to associate themselves with Trump is if they were paid, or forced to(I'm probably just bullshitting here, but this is just from what I garnered from his history). Even his fellow republicans called him a racist.
Trump is a showman. He looks like a madman, but maybe that's his strategy. In show business in order to interested in you need to constantly organize scandals. Election he's helped, but in politics it can lead to problems.
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January 09, 2017, 07:44:21 PM
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- Genocide of the Natives tribes.

- Slavery

How could a people be sooo brainwashed to believe that...
Commie propaganda. It was the European immigrants that killed the natives tribes. They became Americans later..

Hmm... That's true xD
Well partially true as far as I know. European killed a lot of natives that's right, but not so much. I wouldn't give you a number cause that's hard to settle, but far from all of them. Majority of natives were killed afterwards by the Americans. To be precise not even by Americans but by the American dream in itself.
And add to that an important thing that the Americans are guilty of: the cultural murder of natives.
Westerns (the films) gave the impression to all that it was normal to "conquer the west" because it was empty with only some Indians in tribes. Which is of course completely false.

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January 09, 2017, 07:55:32 PM
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- Genocide of the Natives tribes.

- Slavery

How could a people be sooo brainwashed to believe that...
Commie propaganda. It was the European immigrants that killed the natives tribes. They became Americans later..

Hmm... That's true xD
Well partially true as far as I know. European killed a lot of natives that's right, but not so much. I wouldn't give you a number cause that's hard to settle, but far from all of them. Majority of natives were killed afterwards by the Americans. To be precise not even by Americans but by the American dream in itself.
And add to that an important thing that the Americans are guilty of: the cultural murder of natives.
Westerns (the films) gave the impression to all that it was normal to "conquer the west" because it was empty with only some Indians in tribes. Which is of course completely false.
Why only America? All empires did that. In a world still ruled by power politics. In the world there is the last Empire is Russia. Now if Trump will not surrender the interests of his country, we will witness a collapse of Russia.
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January 09, 2017, 08:04:58 PM
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Why only America? All empires did that. In a world still ruled by power politics. In the world there is the last Empire is Russia. Now if Trump will not surrender the interests of his country, we will witness a collapse of Russia.

And all Empires were destroyed and crushed by the people they enslaved.
We can't blame the other Empires because they no longer exist...
Yes we could blame Roman empire but they got already all killed and everything was destroyed. Now we talk about American because there is some time because they all get destroyed.
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January 09, 2017, 11:18:28 PM
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Well, now that we got the racially bias out of the way, do you think it's ok to force what you think on someone else(it's practically what the teachers did)? Edit: P.S. What Trump did is called an ad-hominem and that's a logical fallacy and it's not really helping his case no matter how true it is.
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Trump's About to Wipe the Floor with the CIA - Agency Makes Veiled Threat Against President-elect





The effort to smear Trump and Russia in the media has backfired and propelled the president-elect to propose a major housecleaning in the US intel community - but they aren't taking it lying down.

I first wrote in mid-December (here and here) about the campaign orchestrated by elements of the US intelligence community to accuse Russia of "hacking the US election" and its likely consequence – that incoming President Trump would deal harshly with the campaign's promoters.

The propaganda campaign had two objectives. First, to delegitimize Donald Trump's election as president. Second, to box Trump into a continued policy of antagonism toward Russia upon taking office.

The first objective failed totally on Dec 19th when the electoral college carried out its constitutional duty and formally elected Trump as President of the United States. The second objective is in the process of failing right now.

Now it appears mainstream media outlets have begun to confirm that the thesis of my first article of Dec. 15th is about to come true.

The New York Post, citing the Wall Street Journal, reported yesterday that " Donald Trump is working on a plan that would restructure the CIA — cutting staff at the agency's headquarters in Langley and moving more agents to field posts across the globe, a report says.

"The view from the Trump team is the intelligence world [is] becoming completely politicized," a source close to the President-elect told the Wall Street Journal.

The insider is one of the few people familiar with Trump's planning and said his advisers were also working to scale back the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, as well.

"They all need to be slimmed down," the source said. "The focus will be on restructuring the agencies and how they interact."

Also according to the Post, Trump's nominee for CIA director, Mike Pompeo, and his national security advisor-designate Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn will spearhead the restructuring plan.

But notably, a statement from one anonymous inteviewee appeared to contain a veiled threat against the President-elect:

Intelligence officials told the Journal that they are ultimately disgusted with the President-elect's social media behavior and disapproval of the CIA.

"It's appalling," one official said. "No president has ever taken on the CIA and come out looking good."

This is an incredible statement, and one which was obviously made to the WSJ very deliberately and conscientiously, a paper with which the CIA is known to have strong ties.

The neocon rebels in the clandestine services are not happy that Donald Trump has publicly called them out for their warmongering Russophobic lies. Now they are sending him a message: "Don't cross us. Or you won't come out good."


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/01/no_author/dont-cross-us/.


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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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Danny Gold for Liberty Writers reports, You don't mess with Donald Trump unless you are ready for a freaking WAR! Now the CIA is seeing what happens when you LIE to the world with Trump's new promise for what he will do when he is President.


THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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Danny Gold for Liberty Writers reports, You don't mess with Donald Trump unless you are ready for a freaking WAR! Now the CIA is seeing what happens when you LIE to the world with Trump's new promise for what he will do when he is President.


THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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Lol...
Last time an American president wasn't of the taste of the CIA we all know what happened...
No you don't? Even if I talk about the "magic bullet"?
Or how a common guy managed to fire faster than an actual professional sniper and with higher precision?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy


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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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Danny Gold for Liberty Writers reports, You don't mess with Donald Trump unless you are ready for a freaking WAR! Now the CIA is seeing what happens when you LIE to the world with Trump's new promise for what he will do when he is President.


THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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What is the CIA afraid of? Trump both come and gone, the CIA was and always will be. This old clown can oppose the CIA? I'm just funny. Trump probably had seen the detectives. The CIA is a powerful organization, and it employs smart people unlike him.
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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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Danny Gold for Liberty Writers reports, You don't mess with Donald Trump unless you are ready for a freaking WAR! Now the CIA is seeing what happens when you LIE to the world with Trump's new promise for what he will do when he is President.


THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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What is the CIA afraid of? Trump both come and gone, the CIA was and always will be. This old clown can oppose the CIA? I'm just funny. Trump probably had seen the detectives. The CIA is a powerful organization, and it employs smart people unlike him.

If Trump wanted, he could form a completely new "spy" agency, hire all new people for it, and shut the old ones down - CIA, FBI, NSA. The people working for and in these agencies would be out of a job. The money they earn from all the private shenanigans they pull would be lost to them. Many of them might go over and get a job in Russia. But it would totally unsettle them.

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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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Danny Gold for Liberty Writers reports, You don't mess with Donald Trump unless you are ready for a freaking WAR! Now the CIA is seeing what happens when you LIE to the world with Trump's new promise for what he will do when he is President.


THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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Lol...
Last time an American president wasn't of the taste of the CIA we all know what happened...
No you don't? Even if I talk about the "magic bullet"?
Or how a common guy managed to fire faster than an actual professional sniper and with higher precision?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy
Donald trump talks too much and haven't done anything yet. I think that he did not do. Recently, the Venezuelan Parliament voted to impeach the President. I think that Trump should pay attention to this case. It is also threatened.
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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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Danny Gold for Liberty Writers reports, You don't mess with Donald Trump unless you are ready for a freaking WAR! Now the CIA is seeing what happens when you LIE to the world with Trump's new promise for what he will do when he is President.


THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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Lol...
Last time an American president wasn't of the taste of the CIA we all know what happened...
No you don't? Even if I talk about the "magic bullet"?
Or how a common guy managed to fire faster than an actual professional sniper and with higher precision?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

Just remember, Trump is aware of this, and will take precautions. In addition, if Trump covertly pits the 3 big "spy" agencies - CIA, NSA, FBI - against each other in shrewd ways, they will be too busy fighting each other to mess with him.

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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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Danny Gold for Liberty Writers reports, You don't mess with Donald Trump unless you are ready for a freaking WAR! Now the CIA is seeing what happens when you LIE to the world with Trump's new promise for what he will do when he is President.


THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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Lol...
Last time an American president wasn't of the taste of the CIA we all know what happened...
No you don't? Even if I talk about the "magic bullet"?
Or how a common guy managed to fire faster than an actual professional sniper and with higher precision?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

Just remember, Trump is aware of this, and will take precautions. In addition, if Trump covertly pits the 3 big "spy" agencies - CIA, NSA, FBI - against each other in shrewd ways, they will be too busy fighting each other to mess with him.

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Well you indeed have a high trust in him.
I don't think it will happen. In fact I don't even think that he will try to go against them in the first place...
And I don't see how you can take precautions against them :/


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January 11, 2017, 01:49:28 AM
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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM





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THE CIA IS SCARED! TRUMP JUST PROMISED THE BEST REVENGE AFTER THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST HIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGKBAy-_Lhs



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Lol...
Last time an American president wasn't of the taste of the CIA we all know what happened...
No you don't? Even if I talk about the "magic bullet"?
Or how a common guy managed to fire faster than an actual professional sniper and with higher precision?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

Just remember, Trump is aware of this, and will take precautions. In addition, if Trump covertly pits the 3 big "spy" agencies - CIA, NSA, FBI - against each other in shrewd ways, they will be too busy fighting each other to mess with him.

Cool

Well you indeed have a high trust in him.
I don't think it will happen. In fact I don't even think that he will try to go against them in the first place...
And I don't see how you can take precautions against them :/

There is a map in another post, that shows that most Americans are in favor of Trum way more than Hillary. In fact, it is amazing that Hillary was even a threat.

The point? Among those in favor of Trump, are thousands who will wipe out any CIA people who Trump asks them to. An additional point? There are many CIA people who are in favor of Trump, and will defy their own CIA leaders to do what is right.

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Hmm... That's true xD
Well partially true as far as I know. European killed a lot of natives that's right, but not so much. I wouldn't give you a number cause that's hard to settle, but far from all of them. Majority of natives were killed afterwards by the Americans. To be precise not even by Americans but by the American dream in itself.
And add to that an important thing that the Americans are guilty of: the cultural murder of natives.
Westerns (the films) gave the impression to all that it was normal to "conquer the west" because it was empty with only some Indians in tribes. Which is of course completely false.

90% of the American natives were exterminated by the Catholic church, in collusion with the Spanish empire. When the Anglos (the ancestors of the present day US citizens) arrived in the US, there were not many natives remaining. The native population in states such as Florida, New Mexico, California, were already reduced by more than 90% by the time the Anglos reached these regions.

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