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Author Topic: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲  (Read 35321 times)
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December 21, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
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hi, i posted my username yesterday but i think you forgot me while transfering the request to the proper thread Cheesy

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December 21, 2016, 03:10:49 PM
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The deposit bonuses with x45 wagering requirement looks very attractive, maybe I will try to claim it asap. Is there any time limitation to complete the wagering requirement? And how to see our progress on the wagering of the bonus? Any special tabs showing the progress?
One more question, is the chat unavailable on mobile browser. Trying to find it for some minutes but I cant find it..did I miss something?

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December 21, 2016, 06:22:05 PM
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Are you guys even aware about the potential loss you can face with your bonus program ?

You are providing a 200% first deposit bonus. So if someone deposit 1 btc, he will get 2 btc bonus resulting in 3 btc in balance
He will have to wager his bonus amount 45 times  which is 90 btc. Since the house edge is 1% in your site.
User will lose 0.9 btc while wagering 90 btc. So the remaining balance of the user will be 2.1 btc resulting in 1.1 btc profit with just 1 btc investment

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December 21, 2016, 10:10:30 PM
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Bonus must be wagered 45 times to became part of a balance.
On DuckDice Bonus wagering contribution depends on a game chance and equals to 100% minus chance.
It means that at 10% wagering contribution is 90%,
at 50% is 50% and at 90% is 10%.

So it is rather tricky, otherwise we would become bankrupt pretty fast as many of you said.

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December 21, 2016, 10:33:42 PM
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Are you guys even aware about the potential loss you can face with your bonus program ?

You are providing a 200% first deposit bonus. So if someone deposit 1 btc, he will get 2 btc bonus resulting in 3 btc in balance
He will have to wager his bonus amount 45 times  which is 90 btc. Since the house edge is 1% in your site.
User will lose 0.9 btc while wagering 90 btc. So the remaining balance of the user will be 2.1 btc resulting in 1.1 btc profit with just 1 btc investment

Terms were quite deceptive.

Their 300% is being treated as 200%.
Their 200% is being treated as 100%.

'Wagered' is not really wagered.  It's a made up formula of chance * wagered.

Bonus locks your account.

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December 21, 2016, 10:45:32 PM
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December 21, 2016, 10:52:40 PM
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Are you guys even aware about the potential loss you can face with your bonus program ?

You are providing a 200% first deposit bonus. So if someone deposit 1 btc, he will get 2 btc bonus resulting in 3 btc in balance
He will have to wager his bonus amount 45 times  which is 90 btc. Since the house edge is 1% in your site.
User will lose 0.9 btc while wagering 90 btc. So the remaining balance of the user will be 2.1 btc resulting in 1.1 btc profit with just 1 btc investment

Terms were quite deceptive.

Their 300% is being treated as 200%.
Their 200% is being treated as 100%.

'Wagered' is not really wagered.  It's a made up formula of chance * wagered.

Bonus locks your account.

We've eliminated all the ambiguous rules and made it straightforward, based on your comments.
All the updates has been already made to bonus description.

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December 22, 2016, 12:12:20 AM
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Would highly recommend AGAINST playing at this site.

Site forces you to first bet 100 times before you can even chat, which is required to activate the bonus.

Then you must wait for the Admin to apply the bonus, which wasn't explained properly at all (300% bonus really 200% bonus, deceiving requirements listed ['wagering' not really wagering at all), and you are not told that the earlier betting will not be counted.

In order to unlock the bonus (which locks up your balance), you must bet at a very high multiplier to have any shot at unlocking the bonus in a timely manner.  The autobot is quite slow, and there are often times where you cannot see the results of your bets for 2-3 seconds after your bets and 4 bets after have already passed.


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December 22, 2016, 12:16:09 AM
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Would highly recommend AGAINST playing at this site.

Site forces you to first bet 100 times before you can even chat, which is required to activate the bonus.

Then you must wait for the Admin to apply the bonus, which wasn't explained properly at all (300% bonus really 200% bonus, deceiving requirements listed ['wagering' not really wagering at all), and you are not told that the earlier betting will not be counted.

In order to unlock the bonus (which locks up your balance), you must bet at a very high multiplier to have any shot at unlocking the bonus in a timely manner.  The autobot is quite slow, and there are often times where you cannot see the results of your bets for 2-3 seconds after your bets and 4 bets after have already passed.



we are sorry that you lost.

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December 22, 2016, 12:27:09 AM
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Would highly recommend AGAINST playing at this site.

Site forces you to first bet 100 times before you can even chat, which is required to activate the bonus.

Then you must wait for the Admin to apply the bonus, which wasn't explained properly at all (300% bonus really 200% bonus, deceiving requirements listed ['wagering' not really wagering at all), and you are not told that the earlier betting will not be counted.

In order to unlock the bonus (which locks up your balance), you must bet at a very high multiplier to have any shot at unlocking the bonus in a timely manner.  The autobot is quite slow, and there are often times where you cannot see the results of your bets for 2-3 seconds after your bets and 4 bets after have already passed.



we are sorry that you lost.

Losing is whatever.

What I'm upset about is that I felt trapped and I shouldn't have.

You guys didn't explain the rules right and set it up in a way that forces users to bet a certain way and not have wagering counted towards a bonus that was LIED about and was the whole reason for some users to join your site.

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I like it. You have a player in me!
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Site forces you to first bet 100 times before you can even chat, which is required to activate the bonus.

There are several ways to request your bonus:
bitcoin talk thread and facebook, so you don't need our chat at all. 100 bets verification is for blocking spam messages in our chat. For example on PrimeDice you need to wait for the whole day until you are allowed to to send a message.

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Then you must wait for the Admin to apply the bonus, which wasn't explained properly at all (300% bonus really 200% bonus, deceiving requirements listed ['wagering' not really wagering at all), and you are not told that the earlier betting will not be counted.

We do admit that rules were not totally clear, but we made changes to them and will make even more to avoid any misunderstanding.
However, you send a PM and did not wait for an answer.

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In order to unlock the bonus (which locks up your balance), you must bet at a very high multiplier to have any shot at unlocking the bonus in a timely manner.

this is how bonuses works, there is no game which will give you money for free. Bonus is a free part for you to play with, it not necessarily should be withdrawn straight away. You can try various strategies with it and give it a shot, in the worst case scenario you will just loose your bonus and in the best case scenario you will get additional money, isn't this the whole idea of gambling?






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December 22, 2016, 12:37:17 AM
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Site forces you to first bet 100 times before you can even chat, which is required to activate the bonus.

There are several ways to request your bonus:
bitcoin talk thread and facebook, so you don't need our chat at all. 100 bets verification is for blocking spam messages in our chat. For example on PrimeDice you need to wait for the whole day until you are allowed to to send a message.

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Then you must wait for the Admin to apply the bonus, which wasn't explained properly at all (300% bonus really 200% bonus, deceiving requirements listed ['wagering' not really wagering at all), and you are not told that the earlier betting will not be counted.

We do admit that rules were not totally clear, but we made changes to them and will make even more to avoid any misunderstanding.
However, you send a PM and did not wait for an answer.

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In order to unlock the bonus (which locks up your balance), you must bet at a very high multiplier to have any shot at unlocking the bonus in a timely manner.

this is how bonuses works, there is no game which will give you money for free. Bonus is a free part for you to play with, it not necessarily should be withdrawn straight away. You can try various strategies with it and give it a shot, in the worst case scenario you will just loose your bonus and in the best case scenario you will get additional money, isn't this the whole idea of gambling?

We have a guy who multiplied his signup bonus x250 in just 5 bets!





Bonuses do not work that way.  When you explicitly state WAGERED in your terms, it should be by wagered, not some made up formula that you do not mention.  

These terms (that you added AFTER I was in my session):
Bonus wagering contribution depends on a game chance and equals to 100% minus chance. It means that:
- at chance 10% wagering contribution is 90%;
- at chance 50% wagering contribution is 50%;
- at chance 90% wagering contribution is 10% and so on.

make it so that it steers users towards betting at high multipliers.  When you play at high multipliers and require auto rolling to have any chance at unlocking the bonus, you don't have time to go through your losing bets and you don't provide the option to randomize your client seed.  At other multipliers, for example 90%, you can stop when you lose and check the provable fairness of the bet to ensure you weren't cheated.

It's the lying of the terms and being forced in one way that made me feel trapped and uneasy throughout the whole session.

edit; At Primedice, you don't activate a bonus by chatting.


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December 22, 2016, 07:04:10 AM
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Bonus must be wagered 45 times to became part of a balance.
On DuckDice Bonus wagering contribution depends on a game chance and equals to 100% minus chance.
It means that at 10% wagering contribution is 90%,
at 50% is 50% and at 90% is 10%.

So it is rather tricky, otherwise we would become bankrupt pretty fast as many of you said.

Yeah it is tricky and should be clearly explained and it is your fault to keep it hidden. In such case any losses faced by the user because of this mistake should be refunded

But still why it feels like you still can get bankrupt if your rolls are Fair
Let's do some calculation again based on your new rules

I deposit 1 btc, I will get additional 2 btc resulting in 3 btc balance
Now i have to wager 90 btc to unlock the bonus according to the new rule
If i wager 100 btc at 10% chance, then it will be considered as 90 btc wagered towards wagering requirement
If your rolls are fair then i will lose 1 btc while wagering 100 btc since the house edge is 1%
Even after that i will have 2 btc left in my account ready to withdraw with no restrictions if there is none hidden

The result after will be a 1 btc profit with a 1 btc investment within a day. Doesn't that sound HYIP to you ?
Now these results really makes me question about the fairness of your rolls as already explained by DogeDigital

Their 300% is being treated as 200%.
Their 200% is being treated as 100%.

I see no 300% bonus anywhere. All i see is 200% and 100%

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December 22, 2016, 08:14:12 AM
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Yeah it is tricky and should be clearly explained and it is your fault to keep it hidden.

The rules don't make it easy to withdraw the Bonus but we don't hide any bit of information, beside the rules we explain everything personally to every users and hopefully very soon will make reading the rules mandatory (something like set of rules in a popup and "accept" or "cancel" button).

Beside, people do win with our Bonus and if you doesn't feel like unlocking your Bonus you can cancel it at anytime and make a withdrawal.

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December 22, 2016, 08:16:38 AM
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And regarding the fairness of the rolls, there is a code available on our site (or you can make your own if you have required skills), with it you can verify every bet, no matter how many thousands of them you made.
And you will see that everything was 100% FAIR.

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December 22, 2016, 08:36:48 AM
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Their 300% is being treated as 200%.
Their 200% is being treated as 100%.

I see no 300% bonus anywhere. All i see is 200% and 100%

It was announced by Duckdice some time ago, but the post has been edited. It was 300% first deposit and 200% deposit bonus for the next deposits. But as what Dogedigital said, it was treated in wrong way. Perhaps that's why OP edited his post about the bonus.

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December 22, 2016, 08:56:53 AM
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Their 300% is being treated as 200%.
Their 200% is being treated as 100%.

I see no 300% bonus anywhere. All i see is 200% and 100%

It was announced by Duckdice some time ago, but the post has been edited. It was 300% first deposit and 200% deposit bonus for the next deposits. But as what Dogedigital said, it was treated in wrong way. Perhaps that's why OP edited his post about the bonus.


We used something like "make a Bonus and get three times more" and made an explanation that if you deposit 1BTC you receive 2BTC as a bonus and 3 BTC in total and all this was called 300%, so it was not straightforward and we changed that.

BTW, Dogedogotal asked what will be his bonus amount and we explained this to him (and gave exact number) before assigning the Bonus.

All this makes me wonder why people with a win just say "thanks" and people who lost are trying to find dozens of reasons why game wasn't fair to them..


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December 22, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
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Anyway, no matter what reason, we don't like sad clients and will make radical improvements to our Bonus system to avoid this.
Game should be fun.

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December 22, 2016, 09:31:24 AM
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We used something like "make a Bonus and get three times more" and made an explanation that if you deposit 1BTC you receive 2BTC as a bonus and 3 BTC in total and all this was called 300%, so it was not straightforward and we changed that.

BTW, Dogedogotal asked what will be his bonus amount and we explained this to him (and gave exact number) before assigning the Bonus.

All this makes me wonder why people with a win just say "thanks" and people who lost are trying to find dozens of reasons why game wasn't fair to them..

I never won nor lost in your site so you can not point at me
So, if i deposit 1 btc, can i withdraw my deposit amount after claiming my 2 btc bonus and play with that 2 btc to complete the wagering requirement ?
Also we have to wager 45x bonus amount that is 2 btc or bonus + deposit amount that is 3 btc ?

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