The real winner of the 2016 election

[Sithara007]

You can keep whining, but the fact is that Trump won. And he won despite the fact that polling in several inner city booths were rigged by the Clinton supporters. Now accept the results, and move on.

And I would never bother about those who refused to vote. If someone is too lazy to vote, then he doesn't deserve his voice to be heard.

[jondeen707]

Hillary lost despite attempts to rig it through the media, the DNC and Super PACs

I'd say she lost fair square, but she wasn't playing fair, karma got to her.

Hillary didn't exactly lost seeing as she still won the popular vote,it was the system that elected Trump. if the elections were held in any other country and had the same result,Hillary would have won.

i did not understand what this popular vote is but people elected Trump the president and he won the elections even with the media against him and now Hillary is blaming the FBI for her loss and i do not know how the OP got these stats .

Popular vote=getting the most votes,and Hillary got the most votes
The American elections are decided by a few hundred electors who vaguely act according to the popular vote of each state.

That's not the first it that happened, right? Unfortunately, that will keep happening until this current electoral system is in place.

[criptix]

You can keep whining, but the fact is that Trump won. And he won despite the fact that polling in several inner city booths were rigged by the Clinton supporters. Now accept the results, and move on.

And I would never bother about those who refused to vote. If someone is too lazy to vote, then he doesn't deserve his voice to be heard.

Wow first mass voting fraud and now mass polling fraud.
Do they have no shame at all??!! 

 

[toy4lov3rs]

You can keep whining, but the fact is that Trump won. And he won despite the fact that polling in several inner city booths were rigged by the Clinton supporters. Now accept the results, and move on.

And I would never bother about those who refused to vote. If someone is too lazy to vote, then he doesn't deserve his voice to be heard.

Wow first mass voting fraud and now mass polling fraud.
Do they have no shame at all??!! 

 

When you say 'they', who exactly are you talking about here. I'd like to think you don't mean they the American People as a whole. Because I still love my country and it's people. Sure we got some Bigots, everywhere does. But I think America will stay strong. I have hope..

[philggg]

Donald trump won the election because his campaign speech is what the majority of Americans wanted,issue on illegal immigrants, they believe they are the cause of major crimes in u s

[mindrust]

Popular vote doesn't mean shit unless you win more states than your opponent. If it meant shit, Hillary would be president instead of Trump right now.

It is there for a consolation prize. A jerk off prize.

And the winneeeeer iiss: DONALD... J... TRUMP!

See you back in 2020.

Btw, Donald didn't do much to win. Instead, Hillary and all other media did it for him. He said something and the media told it 1000times on TV's. Priceless.

[tvbcof]

The 'real' vote won't be knowable until if/when we get a functional justice system again.  Even then someone needs to take an interest in doing some forensics work.  No matter how the vote turned out in reality, Obama nullified the election by encouraging illegal voting shortly before 11/8.  Fortunately it was to little to late for their side.

I will say that the electoral college which complicates a theft clearly saved the day.  Without it it would have been trivial to steal this election.  I've never been a fan of the thing, but am warming to it for several reasons.  Certainly it should remain in place util the electronic voting machines are relegated to the dumpster.

Trump getting easily 10x the crowds to his much more numerous rallies spoke volumes about what the 'real' vote was.

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Going forward 2016 has clearly shown that we have a cohort of pretty fucked up people.  They continue to walk out of classes and march in the streets.  It will be interesting to see what happens to this 'lost generation' so-to-speak.  I think it a fairly powerful hypothesis that they are to a degree 'designer people' who have been infused with 'sustainability' which in population dynamics terms means they won't reproduce and will more quickly die off.

I suspect that these victims were made that way through both psychological and chemical means.  They are both mentally and physically stunted, however, making them not a huge threat to the long term prosperity of the nation as long as we can stop the damage from continuing.  At least these victims of the globalist class can be taken care of with 'coloring books and play-doh' and 'mass cry-ins' and 'therapy dogs'.  Today's U.S. universities are hard at work doing cutting-edge research along these lines.

[awesome31312]

You can keep whining, but the fact is that Trump won. And he won despite the fact that polling in several inner city booths were rigged by the Clinton supporters. Now accept the results, and move on.

And I would never bother about those who refused to vote. If someone is too lazy to vote, then he doesn't deserve his voice to be heard.

Lol, so many things wrong with your post.

A protest of government policies is not "whining". It is still more constructive than sitting on your fat ass and troll shitposting on Bitcointalk.

Don't get it twisted. If you vote, you are responsible for everything that happens.

[olubams]

The issue of participating in election by majority of the population has been an issue of concern but I didnt know its the same in advanced countries like this.  Over here you see an average of 22 million people deciding for a population of over 150 million people despite all the cries and campaign that they should come out and vote but our case is different as we dont use electoral colleges and based on OP analysis if it were to my country, then Hillary will be the winner even if it were to be by few votes...

[usefrees]

The issue of participating in election by majority of the population has been an issue of concern but I didnt know its the same in advanced countries like this.  Over here you see an average of 22 million people deciding for a population of over 150 million people despite all the cries and campaign that they should come out and vote but our case is different as we dont use electoral colleges and based on OP analysis if it were to my country, then Hillary will be the winner even if it were to be by few votes...

yes, I am surprised by the voting system in which the voice of the people do not count. I do not think it's right.
But the fact remains, and now we need to try to take a new president

[DRaGoN RaNTaRo]

The issue of participating in election by majority of the population has been an issue of concern but I didnt know its the same in advanced countries like this.  Over here you see an average of 22 million people deciding for a population of over 150 million people despite all the cries and campaign that they should come out and vote but our case is different as we dont use electoral colleges and based on OP analysis if it were to my country, then Hillary will be the winner even if it were to be by few votes...

yes, I am surprised by the voting system in which the voice of the people do not count. I do not think it's right.
But the fact remains, and now we need to try to take a new president

The voice of the people was with Trump when they went to the polling booth and what is the problem now people have to accept the democratically and constitutionally elected President

[Cxfan]

The banks continue to win, as always. 

[birareru1988]

The issue of participating in election by majority of the population has been an issue of concern but I didnt know its the same in advanced countries like this.  Over here you see an average of 22 million people deciding for a population of over 150 million people despite all the cries and campaign that they should come out and vote but our case is different as we dont use electoral colleges and based on OP analysis if it were to my country, then Hillary will be the winner even if it were to be by few votes...

yes, I am surprised by the voting system in which the voice of the people do not count. I do not think it's right.
But the fact remains, and now we need to try to take a new president

The voice of the people was with Trump when they went to the polling booth and what is the problem now people have to accept the democratically and constitutionally elected President

The voice of the people was Hillary. She received more of the popular vote by almost a million! Just the imperfection of the electoral legislation in America brought to its present state.

[tvbcof]

The banks continue to win, as always. 

Trump's former life put him generally in competition with 'the banks.'  When he negotiated it was opposite of this class and he did have a near-death business experience at their hands as they leveraged their powers at his expense (put another way, they took his shit).  Obviously Trump would have had relationships and friendships within the financial services sector, but generally speaking his situation as a seller of debt and their situation as a buyer defined an adversarial relationship when the pleasantries were pushed aside.

Trump learned how to cope and bragged numerous times on the trail that he was 'carrying very little debt.'  Reading between the lines, this was one of my take-aways and one of the reasons I became hopeful about the guy.  He also said at least one time when I was watching that 'while friends, these are horrible and vicious people' or something along these lines.  Who better should know?

[criptix]

The banks continue to win, as always. 

Trump's former life put him generally in competition with 'the banks.'  When he negotiated it was opposite of this class and he did have a near-death business experience at their hands as they leveraged their powers at his expense (put another way, they took his shit).  Obviously Trump would have had relationships and friendships within the financial services sector, but generally speaking his situation as a seller of debt and their situation as a buyer defined an adversarial relationship when the pleasantries were pushed aside.

Trump learned how to cope and bragged numerous times on the trail that he was 'carrying very little debt.'  Reading between the lines, this was one of my take-aways and one of the reasons I became hopeful about the guy.  He also said at least one time when I was watching that 'while friends, these are horrible and vicious people' or something along these lines.  Who better should know?

That is why one of his main goals is to deregulate the banking sector.

Alex jokes believer duh

[tvbcof]

The banks continue to win, as always.  

Trump's former life put him generally in competition with 'the banks.'  When he negotiated it was opposite of this class and he did have a near-death business experience at their hands as they leveraged their powers at his expense (put another way, they took his shit).  Obviously Trump would have had relationships and friendships within the financial services sector, but generally speaking his situation as a seller of debt and their situation as a buyer defined an adversarial relationship when the pleasantries were pushed aside.

Trump learned how to cope and bragged numerous times on the trail that he was 'carrying very little debt.'  Reading between the lines, this was one of my take-aways and one of the reasons I became hopeful about the guy.  He also said at least one time when I was watching that 'while friends, these are horrible and vicious people' or something along these lines.  Who better should know?

That is why one of his main goals is to deregulate the banking sector.

Alex jokes believer duh

In case you didn't notice, almost without exception the 'regulations' were written by the banks themselves.  And locked in by the politicians funded by them.

Trump will prove or dis-prove himself when (probably not 'if') he and his choose between 'bail-outs', 'bail-ins', or 'other'.

No rational person I know is willing to predict with certainty one way or another which way Trump will go.  That includes me, Jones, or anyone else who's analysis I value.

[criptix]

The banks continue to win, as always.  

Trump's former life put him generally in competition with 'the banks.'  When he negotiated it was opposite of this class and he did have a near-death business experience at their hands as they leveraged their powers at his expense (put another way, they took his shit).  Obviously Trump would have had relationships and friendships within the financial services sector, but generally speaking his situation as a seller of debt and their situation as a buyer defined an adversarial relationship when the pleasantries were pushed aside.

Trump learned how to cope and bragged numerous times on the trail that he was 'carrying very little debt.'  Reading between the lines, this was one of my take-aways and one of the reasons I became hopeful about the guy.  He also said at least one time when I was watching that 'while friends, these are horrible and vicious people' or something along these lines.  Who better should know?

That is why one of his main goals is to deregulate the banking sector.

Alex jokes believer duh

In case you didn't notice, almost without exception the 'regulations' were written by the banks themselves.  And locked in by the politicians funded by them.

Trump will prove or dis-prove himself when (probably not 'if') he and his choose between 'bail-outs', 'bail-ins', or 'other'.

No rational person I know is willing to predict with certainty one way or another which way Trump will go.  That includes me, Jones, or anyone else who's analysis I value.

Oh dear i forgive you because you dont know what you are talking about.

Here 2 things that you better look up:

Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act


Im pretty sure you believe that trump urinates holy water and is the second coming of jesus?

 

[tvbcof]

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Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act
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Dodd-Frank's only real impact was making operations difficult and unpleasant for the smaller operators which had the (probably not unintended) consequence of reducing competition for the large players.  It absolutely had no impact that I can see on malfeasance within larger corporations or any impact on the rapid stratification of wealth in this country and evaporation of the middle-class.

Dodd proved himself a crony asshole immediately upon exiting 'public service.'  Frank, while being maybe the most entertaining people I've ever seen in a debate, was by no means a 'man of the people.'  His deep seated power roots were laid bare for all to see when he was caught molesting under-age male pages with no particular negative consequences.  Indeed, it seemed to have made him 'cool and trendy' in the eyes of much of our progressive electorate.

[criptix]

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Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act
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Dodd-Frank's only real impact was making operations difficult and unpleasant for the smaller operators which had the (probably not unintended) consequence of reducing competition for the large players.  It absolutely had no impact that I can see on malfeasance within larger corporations or any impact on the rapid stratification of wealth in this country and evaporation of the middle-class.

Dodd proved himself a crony asshole immediately upon exiting 'public service.'  Frank, while being maybe the most entertaining people I've ever seen in a debate, was by no means a 'man of the people.'  His deep seated power roots were laid bare for all to see when he was caught molesting under-age male pages with no particular negative consequences.  Indeed, it seemed to have made him 'cool and trendy' in the eyes of much of our progressive electorate.

Regulating derivatives trading, increasing banks equity capital, increasing fed transparency, creating a consumer protection bureau, less speculation from banks with fed money...  just to mention some of the really good stuff.

wtf did you manage to miss the financial crisis 2008?

Trump wants to sweep all this in one go.
If you though that wall street loves hillary, you gonna see a lot of homo-butt-sex between trump and the wall street boys.

[tvbcof]

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Trump wants to sweep all this in one go.
If you though that wall street loves hillary, you gonna see a lot of homo-butt-sex between trump and the wall street boys.

Ya, that's why the banks gave Trump so much money and so little to Hillary I suppose.  Right?

I guess Hillary was a two-bit/speech quarter-million-dollars/speech whore while Trump found the compensation to be unsatisfactory else he'd have been prostituting himself as she was.

As I've said, I would like to see not only the so-called 'regulations' you worship but the whole fucking monetary system swept away since it is the only source of power that props up the current crop of shadow government tyrants.  I hope they push Trump hard enough so he does exactly that.